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What lossy format do you use on a *regular* basis?

AAC or HE-AAC v1/v2 (.m4a, .aac…)
LossyWAV + lossless (.lossy.flac, .lossy.wv, .lossy.tak…)
MP3 (.mp3)
Musepack (.mpc)
Ogg Vorbis (.ogg)
Opus (.opus)
WavPack Lossy/Hybrid (.wv)
xHE-AAC (USAC)
I don't encode or listen to lossy audio on a regular basis

Voting closes: 2024-01-01 14:33:07

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Re: 2023 Lossy format poll

Reply #25 –
MP3 - for the "MP3-only" player of my children
AAC - for the car-entertainment system
Opus - for my mobile audio device
.halverhahn

Re: 2023 Lossy format poll

Reply #26 –
Quote from: birdie on
My preferences for music:

AAC: qaac.exe -v 256 -q 2
MP3: --preset extreme
Opus: --bitrate 256
Vorbis: -q9
This is epic. Almost exactly my choice.
Opus VBR 256 + SoX

Re: 2023 Lossy format poll

Reply #27 –
I use xHE-AAC (USAC) at 96 kbps (Exhale bit-rate mode 3). Great quality and the bitrate does not bloat on classical music (like Opus).

Works in foobar2000 out-of-the-box on Apple devices (iPhone, MacBook). Keeps my collection (70% classical music) at 230 GB so it can be stored easily on my work laptop (with 1TB SSD).

The Exhale encoder is slower compared to other codecs but once you convert the bulk of your collection it is no longer an issue as I am adding a new album or two from time to time.

Re: 2023 Lossy format poll

Reply #28 –
quicktime aac 256 kbps for mobile. I like how this codec behaves in a spectrogram when you shovel bitrate at it. Kinda low on storage tho i might need to go opus soon.

Re: 2023 Lossy format poll

Reply #29 –
Quote from: Corsair on
I use xHE-AAC (USAC) at 96 kbps (Exhale bit-rate mode 3). Great quality and the bitrate does not bloat on classical music (like Opus).

Works in foobar2000 out-of-the-box on Apple devices (iPhone, MacBook). Keeps my collection (70% classical music) at 230 GB so it can be stored easily on my work laptop (with 1TB SSD).

The Exhale encoder is slower compared to other codecs but once you convert the bulk of your collection it is no longer an issue as I am adding a new album or two from time to time.
how do you know it is bloat?

Re: 2023 Lossy format poll

Reply #31 –
I got interested in LAME MP3 V0 vbr-old btw. Considering the pros this choice has I might stick to it.
Opus VBR 256 + SoX

Re: 2023 Lossy format poll

Reply #32 –
Quote from: Corsair on
Quote from: Kartoffelbrei on
how do you know it is bloat?

Bloat as an increase in average bitrate on classical music compared to other music genres like pop/rock/metal.

Yep the bloat there to hide a limitation that Opus has, Since I have quiet ambient song at Opus at 192kbps nets a larger than the lossless file. MP3 suffers from bit rate bloat but the -Y switch fixes that hence I force It on V2 ~ V0, Helix seems to have It version of -Y on even at V150. As It stops the 16KHz ~ 22KHz area stealing bits from under 16KHz area.

Re: 2023 Lossy format poll

Reply #33 –
Quote from: birdie on
My preferences for music:
AAC: qaac.exe -v 256 -q 2
MP3: --preset extreme
Opus: --bitrate 256
Vorbis: -q9
Hi
You know i have almost changed my mind , mostly for  AAC: qaac.exe -v 256 -q 2 almost same size of lame V0 , but really great quality
about aac , I guess could be corrupt by many software (not foobar2000) because they keep writeining in their tag , playcount and other stuff , really very hard to fix them
just my cents , because today I performance a test of a my favorite album The Golden Age 's Woodkid in flac , mp3 320k and v0 and qaac -256 -q 2
sorry for MP3: --preset extreme do you mean v0 or an older version of lame?
thanks

Re: 2023 Lossy format poll

Reply #34 –
Not listed but dts is the only lossy format I use.
Even my mobile device take flac. Storage is so cheap I don't bother compressing stereo.

Re: 2023 Lossy format poll

Reply #35 –
Quote from: francesco on
Quote from: birdie on
My preferences for music:
AAC: qaac.exe -v 256 -q 2
MP3: --preset extreme
Opus: --bitrate 256
Vorbis: -q9
Hi
You know i have almost changed my mind , mostly for  AAC: qaac.exe -v 256 -q 2 almost same size of lame V0 , but really great quality
about aac , I guess could be corrupt by many software (not foobar2000) because they keep writeining in their tag , playcount and other stuff , really very hard to fix them
just my cents , because today I performance a test of a my favorite album The Golden Age 's Woodkid in flac , mp3 320k and v0 and qaac -256 -q 2
sorry for MP3: --preset extreme do you mean v0 or an older version of lame?
thanks

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lame --replaygain-accurate -c -p --preset extreme source.wav
 

Re: 2023 Lossy format poll

Reply #36 –
WMA PRO at 440kbps. Since none of the options have a 'catch all not thought of', I didn't vote.
Anyway, WMA PRO is the best lossy format I have found that keeps all the information—no matter how unhearable it is.
Processed audio in java and python.