Skip to main content ↑ ↓

Notice

Please note that most of the software linked on this forum is likely to be safe to use. If you are unsure, feel free to ask in the relevant topics, or send a private message to an administrator or moderator. To help curb the problems of false positives, or in the event that you do find actual malware, you can contribute through the article linked here.
Topic: HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste (Read 10671 times) previous topic - next topic
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Okay, as you can see here: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....mp;#entry429026 - a sample from my rip of The Mars Volta's Frances the Mute, released in 2005. I know TMV overcompress their stuff like crap, but I haven't listened to the original CD - I don't like playing CDs before they're ripped. EAC reports no errors yet this clipping is on every track. It's really noticable and really spoils an otherwise brilliant album. I'm going with my CD drive (well, it's a DVD one really but EAC reccomended it for ripping and it's working fine for me up till now), but it's always best to check... can anybody else who has this album comment on it? Thanks

edit: to clarify, the clipping introduces pops. I think that's what it is, anyway...
err... i'm not using windows any more ;)

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #1 –
I had huge problems with this CD. In fact I went and exchanged it for another copy because the first one had this horrible static sound. I don't know if it was clipping or just a defective pressing, but I didn't really get into the album much after that point.

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #2 –
Oh damn. There HAS to be a way to fix it, it's worse than an LP.

Edit: I got it from amazon.co.uk if it matters.

Edit 2: They've removed it now (replaced it with the entirety of their not-released-yet album now; madmen) but when it was on their myspace page (Mistitled as "The Widow" I might add) it sounded fine.

Edit: BREAKING NEWS - it's the mastering. I'm noticing that Inertiatic ESP, off their previous album, De-loused in the Comatorium, sounds the same. agh, my ears!
err... i'm not using windows any more ;)

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #3 –
Quote from: ...Just Elliott on
I know TMV overcompress their stuff like crap, but I haven't listened to the original CD - I don't like playing CDs before they're ripped.
Why not?

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #4 –
Quote from: AnEnigma66 on
Quote from: ...Just Elliott on
I know TMV overcompress their stuff like crap, but I haven't listened to the original CD - I don't like playing CDs before they're ripped.
Why not?

1. If I played a CD a million times, the quality WOULD degrade a bit. I'm paranoid.
2. I like having stuff on my HD, with albumart, RG, etc.
err... i'm not using windows any more ;)

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #5 –
Quote from: ...Just Elliott on
1. If I played a CD a million times, the quality WOULD degrade a bit. I'm paranoid.
A million is one thing, but ONCE?

Quote
2. I like having stuff on my HD, with albumart, RG, etc.
No argument there.

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #7 –
Quote from: ...Just Elliott on
Quote from: AnEnigma66 on

Quote from: ...Just Elliott on
1. If I played a CD a million times, the quality WOULD degrade a bit. I'm paranoid.
A million is one thing, but ONCE?
It's because I want a perfect backup before anything else.



The quality would not degrade unless the CD developed unrecoverable errors.  Which rarely if ever happens to a properly manufactered and handled CD.

You're beyond paranoid 

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #8 –
...Just Elliott sez:
>1. If I played a CD a million times, the quality WOULD degrade a bit.

It might, but that would take you 76 years nonstop to find out. By then the damage caused by handling and heat/humidity would far outweigh any the (mythical) "digital wear".

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #9 –
It's a bad excuse, I know, but I just like having it on my PC before anything else happens
err... i'm not using windows any more ;)

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #10 –
One word. Relax.
Acid8000 aka. PhilDEE

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #11 –
Quote from: ...Just Elliott on
It's a bad excuse, I know, but I just like having it on my PC before anything else happens


I can understand it very well when someones does it this way with a vinyl record, but with a CD? C'mon! And in case of such a horribly mastered album like Frances the Mute it won't make such a big difference anyway.

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #12 –
...Just Elliott sez:
>I know, but I just

As a fellow victim of OCD, I suggest you re-evaluate some of your routines, in particular those you cannot find explain or justify, except with the "I know, but ... just ..." construct.

You life could be a lot easier. =)

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #13 –
Quote from: Never_Again on
...Just Elliott sez:
>I know, but I just

As a fellow victim of OCD, I suggest you re-evaluate some of your routines, in particular those you cannot find explain or justify, except with the "I know, but ... just ..." construct.

You life could be a lot easier. =)


<a bystander begins looking around his apartment at half finished projects and sighs>

-brendan

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #14 –
Quote from: ShowsOn on
In fact I went and exchanged it for another copy because the first one had this horrible static sound.


nah, that's just their music.

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #15 –
Not a mars volta fan I assume?
err... i'm not using windows any more ;)

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #16 –
Oh it gets better

Check this out.



Man what a crying shame, cause I actually like the song. (The Widow)

Hey there's a new term we could start using for this:

Seedy Quality

:-D

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #17 –
Wow, looking at that made my *ears* bleed in sympathy for my eyes...for taking the hit.

-brendan

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #18 –
...

I hate you, Universal.
err... i'm not using windows any more ;)

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #19 –
Just hating isn't constructive, try to find and talk in a gentle manner to the responsible persons  .

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #20 –
Quote from: Egor on
Just hating isn't constructive, try to find and talk in a gentle manner to the responsible persons  .


What's the point in talking to them when they are obviously deaf?

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #21 –
Well, one still can contact them in black and white  .

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #22 –
For the record, changing "prevent clipping" to "apply gain and prevent clipping", and setting the preamp to a reasonable level made some of the more noticable clips become unnoticable for me. It's a bad solution, but at least I can listen to Cassandra Gemini without half of it being noise...
err... i'm not using windows any more ;)

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #23 –
Wow!! Amazing! I've gotta do all that with all my CDs!!!!111



My dad once told me that way back when (in sweden) there was an april fools day joke stating that the contemporary black and white tv's would turn to colour if you stretched nylon socks across the front of the set.

My innocently naive self asked, "Did it work?".

He said, "No - but a lot of people sure cut their nylon socks!"

HORRIBLE clipping on Frances the Mute - my CD drive, EAC, or the maste

Reply #24 –
I have another solution: grin and bear it.

There's nothing you can do. Except maybe make friends with Cedric or Omar and try not to sound like a smartass when explaining why you think their music could sound much better.