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Hydrogenaudio Forum => General Audio => Topic started by: vishal8 on 2012-03-30 03:24:51

Title: which lame version?
Post by: vishal8 on 2012-03-30 03:24:51
which lame version is bet latest stable,which software to use for flac to mp3,lame switch for transparent

don't repeat previous answers as "most people can't dintinguish lossy from losslesss"

ao finally, which lame version and switch to use so that there is no difference between original and mp3
Title: which lame version?
Post by: andrew_berge on 2012-03-30 03:33:42
Whatever's on LAME's front page is safe. Right now it says v3.99.

I recommend Foobar2000 for converting FLAC to mp3. Another app i've seen recommended a lot is dBPoweramp.
Both will copy the tags to the new files properly.
Title: which lame version?
Post by: vishal8 on 2012-03-30 03:46:38
Whatever's on LAME's front page is safe. Right now it says v3.99.

I recommend Foobar2000 for converting FLAC to mp3. Another app i've seen recommended a lot is dBPoweramp.
Both will copy the tags to the new files properly.



thanks, but i want maximum transparency lame switch available

also you mentioned 3.99, i don't undertand because it has many versions as 3.99.1,3.99.2...etc.

so which version is best also suggest me where to download official binaries
Title: which lame version?
Post by: andrew_berge on 2012-03-30 04:04:41
The changelog is here (http://lame.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/lame/lame/doc/html/history.html?revision=HEAD). I see no reason not to get the latest one.

You can download binaries here: RareWares (http://www.rarewares.org/mp3-lame-bundle.php).

Maximum quality for mp3 files is 320kbps constant bit-rate, that's what you want.
Title: which lame version?
Post by: twostar on 2012-03-30 04:07:58
Check the wiki (http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=LAME).

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Unless noted otherwise, the recommended LAME compile for optimal quality is always the latest stable version.


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-b 320. This is the strongest setting for MP3, with the lowest risk of artifacts.


Download from Rarewares (http://www.rarewares.org/mp3.php).
Title: which lame version?
Post by: vishal8 on 2012-03-30 04:15:44
Check the wiki (http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=LAME).

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Unless noted otherwise, the recommended LAME compile for optimal quality is always the latest stable version.


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-b 320. This is the strongest setting for MP3, with the lowest risk of artifacts.


Download from Rarewares (http://www.rarewares.org/mp3.php).


thanks, but which version of foobar to download in there official site there is one stable and one latest beta?

also how to use replaygain through foobar when flac to mp3?

or shoul i use mp3gain then suggest me how to use it
Title: which lame version?
Post by: westgroveg on 2012-03-30 06:28:20
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which lame version?


This is a good question!


The history of hydrogenaudio has shown (and even the newest ABX tests prove this) that the newest encoder is not always the best

Can anyone link a recent structured test with more than just a couple of test samples using say LAME 3.90, LAME 3.98 and the latest 3.99? At 150-200Kbps mark?

Title: which lame version?
Post by: soulsearchingsun on 2012-03-30 12:11:35
The history of hydrogenaudio has shown (and even the newest ABX tests prove this) that the newest encoder is not always the best

At some point it was accepted here to trust the LAME developers that they know what they're doing. So unless someone finds that the latest version is seriously flawed, HA generally recommends the latest version.
I don't think there were recent public listening tests with different LAME versions. It's easy to find single (killer) samples that show slight regression, but the overall quality is thought to improve with every version. So you'll need a public listening test with a lot of participants and a wide choice of samples to prove that an old version is specifically better than the latest one. I think in most cases they would come out tied.
Title: which lame version?
Post by: soulsearchingsun on 2012-03-30 12:19:18
thanks, but which version of foobar to download in there official site there is one stable and one latest beta?

Unless you find something that's important to you in the changelog, I'd stick with stable. One reason is that beta versions stop working some 30 days-ish from their release. That always when I'm in the middle of no internet connection -.- Another reason is that although Peter (foobar's developer) is very digilent, beta versions show regressions from time to time, those are usually sorted out in the stables.

also how to use replaygain through foobar when flac to mp3?
or shoul i use mp3gain then suggest me how to use it

I'd use foobar. You can still decide whether to use ReplayGain tags (only used by players that support RG) or apply the changes to the files, like mp3gain does.
Title: which lame version?
Post by: shadowking on 2012-03-31 10:35:19
Most tested: v3.90, 3.98, 3.97

3.90 .. 3.97 default to a slower vbr. The new vbr code was considered similar or slight behind quality wise in v3.90. It is activated by --alt-preset fast extreme. Even so it is half the speed of today. Around v3.97 the new vbr code was considered the same or better than the default old vbr. This version was faster for all modes . From v3.98 most tuning effort goes to the new fast vbr with even greater speed than before. CBR  / ABR was last tested on v3.97 and did ok. Most tuning for cbr / abr was up to v3.93 then things are more vbr centric from v3.94 ~ present with v3.97 as a good all rounder.

CBR:  3.90.3, 3.91, 3.92, 3.93.1 or 3.88 / GOGO, 3.97

VBR (older method --alt-preset ): 3.90.3, 3.91, 3.92, 3.93.1

VBR (new faster -Vx) :  3.98 , 3.99, 3.97 with --vbr-new
Title: which lame version?
Post by: vishal8 on 2012-04-01 03:18:04
any software for encoding lossless to lossy for eg:
flac,wav,wavpack to mp3

any good software free , commercial using best stable lame version ?
Title: which lame version?
Post by: twostar on 2012-04-01 04:23:53
Have you tried foobar2000? If yes, what didn't you like about it?
Title: which lame version?
Post by: vishal8 on 2012-04-01 04:57:13
i don't know which foobar version to download stable or latest beta

foobar best lame switch size does not matter?
Title: which lame version?
Post by: vishal8 on 2012-04-01 09:10:22
Have you tried foobar2000? If yes, what didn't you like about it?


after all this flac is best

one question is there any audio codec which is close to lossless

mp3,wma,aac,eaac+ which is more transparent to lossless and why?
Title: which lame version?
Post by: Nessuno on 2012-04-01 09:26:38
one question is there any audio codec which is close to lossless

mp3,wma,aac,eaac+ which is more transparent to lossless and why?

Feel free to browse this board with the search function to acquire a lot of knowledge on this matter from already discussed threads.

Give also a thoughtful look at HA Wiki. Good starting points could be:

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Transparency (http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Transparency)

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?ti..._the_best_codec (http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Choosing_the_best_codec)

Hope this helps...
Title: which lame version?
Post by: db1989 on 2012-04-01 09:58:16
Please stop expecting everyone to provide you with every answer to every basic question that you have; you have to make some effort for yourself, too. Please also stop making multiple redundant threads about the same subject. Chill out, do some reading (including of Hydrogenaudio’s Terms Of Service (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3974)), and have patience when waiting for others to provide help—rather than expecting to get everything on a plate immediately.
Title: which lame version?
Post by: twostar on 2012-04-01 11:03:09
i don't know which foobar version to download stable or latest beta

foobar best lame switch size does not matter?


Just pick the stable version. It doesn't really matter. It would still be LAME that will do the encoding.

And again -b 320.
Title: which lame version?
Post by: F17 on 2012-05-14 20:22:06
which lame version is bet latest stable,which software to use for flac to mp3,lame switch for transparent

don't repeat previous answers as "most people can't dintinguish lossy from losslesss"

ao finally, which lame version and switch to use so that there is no difference between original and mp3

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Title: which lame version?
Post by: psycho on 2012-05-14 20:54:34
You absolutely must use LAME version 3.90.3 with --r3mix, because that's the only true combination of all times.

Sorry, I had to write something like that... Seems to me that vishal8 is looking for an answer as dramatic as the line above... Well the times have changed, there isn't any sense anymore in looking for tweaked magic switches that would bring the most out of LAME, because the LAME developers have put a lot of work in default switches so that they are enough - or rather - they already include all the possible tweaks you want.

vishal8, unfortunatelly (or fortunately for others - me included), LAME has evolved so much, that you only need -V 0 switch if you want best VBR or -b 320 if you want best CBR. No other settings are needed and for the version... Any version will do. Preferably the latest one!

I hope you'll find what you're looking for, vishal8 and not lose your nerves on your quest for perfect mp3 files.