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Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-06 17:32:45
MusicBee is a music manager and player i have written - its already got a fairly comprehensive set of functionality and has some features I hope people will appreciate. While I have spent a fair bit of time testing and use it on my own collection, it is still in beta so treat with caution for now.

The full install is on www.getmusicbee.com (http://www.getmusicbee.com/) or if you have installed at least once, copy all the files from http://www.mediafire.com/?amn2nzmmjty (http://www.mediafire.com/?amn2nzmmjty) to the MusicBee program folder

Any constructive feedback is welcome even if you just have a play with it
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: HotshotGG on 2008-12-06 20:07:51
I like the GUI it's quite fancy and pretty looking. Consider making a part of it open-source per GPL or LGPL liscense so that it can be ported to Linux and Mac OS/X.

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One thing I would appreciate comments on is whether its worth including a basic CD ripper ie. so its in the one application, even if its not up to the standard of specialised rippers out there.


Keep in mind if you are going to write a CD ripper from scratch make that it's a "secure ripper". This can be very difficult to do (Which is why many CD rippers optionally use cdparanoia in conjunction with their software). 
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: ExUser on 2008-12-06 20:50:08
Rippers are quite trivial these days, now that AccurateRip is around. Burst rip once and then repeat the process until you get a valid AccurateRip result.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: shakey_snake on 2008-12-06 21:20:01
Very impressive for a first beta. I like just about everything. Any chance of adding native themeing so it matches the rest of my windows?
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: spoon on 2008-12-06 22:57:46
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Rippers are quite trivial these days, now that AccurateRip is around. Burst rip once and then repeat the process until you get a valid AccurateRip result


This is true if a track only has one or two errors, but if there are 50 the chances of getting them all to correct on one pass is low.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: ~*McoreD*~ on 2008-12-06 23:58:40
Impressive for a first beta. I see much of the popular features such as folder monitoring are already included in this release.

Have you considered supporting Album Artist as well as Artist, in the browser?
http://www.getmusicbee.com/images/MusicBeeMainLarge.jpg (http://www.getmusicbee.com/images/MusicBeeMainLarge.jpg)

I have explained this feature request here http://mcored.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!...7!225.entry (http://mcored.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!A3BD5044D6130C47!225.entry)

I cannot test MusicBee at the moment because I think I may have a software conflict:

(http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/3787/error20081207085626qk9.png)

(http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/7876/ss20081207085658ev3.th.png) (http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/7876/ss20081207085658ev3.png)

Cheers,
McoreD
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: shakey_snake on 2008-12-07 02:20:49
Have you considered supporting Album Artist as well as Artist, in the browser?

click the little "upside-down eject button" arrow on the header...
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-07 16:39:22
hotshotGG: no immediate plans to open-source this but i won't rule it out further down the track

shakey_snake: the themeing is basic at the moment - just 2 themes. I was planning to look more seriously at that aspect further down the track after beefing up other functionality. I'll think about what can done sooner as perhaps its more important than what I had thought.

McoreD: i have never seen that happen before and to be honest i am completely baffled based on what i see in your screenshoot and what is happening in the code at that point. Did you click 'Choose Folders' or 'Start Scan' when it happened? Are you using XP SP2/3 or Vista, and not 2000 or 2003?
There is a stack dump file produced which could help me - its located in 'C:\Documents and Settings\<your id>\Application Data\MusicBee\errorLog.dat
Alternatively i've updated the software version downloadable on the website so you can easily view the error log from the View menu (as well as fix a couple of small bugs i noticed yesterday)
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: HotshotGG on 2008-12-07 17:03:03
You know what I really like about your organizer? You can synch to devices other then the IPod. Now that's a nifty feature that I haven't seen anywhere else. 
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: DonP on 2008-12-07 18:29:04
Nice while it lasted...

I tried synching my music player (Sansa E200) and it spend a looong time scanning the player.  I had to leave, so clicked cancel and it hung up.

Eventually I aborted the program, and now it says it can't start.

Tried reboot computer, do uninstall/reinstall, which APPEARED to work ok, but still an initial banner comes up, then an error message that just says "Unable to start Musicbee"
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: Brent on 2008-12-07 23:05:22
Looks like its based on MusikCube/wxMusik. Is that correct? Looks nice, but wouldn't you need to put up the source somewhere?
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: ~*McoreD*~ on 2008-12-08 11:35:36
stevenmmm

This is Windows XP SP3. It happens as soon as the program is loaded.

2008-12-07 08:50:43 - System.AccessViolationException: Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt.
  at System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.CallWindowProc(IntPtr wndProc, IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam)
  at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.DefWndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.DefWndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ListView.WndProc(Message& m)
  at #=qk3o0YZesRB1c0vcNC38$4bG4ckFsZjMsKRWEBuWutZEfvrvHaxVXYyxAcLEoC_WA.#=qzEvRAkQHdyBlYYCt6oOINQ==.WndProc(Message& #=qDc5JWWGmff4S6BLFpw_mZQ==)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

If I double click on a song to load MusicBee, it would play the song fine. The error still shows up and the rest of the GUI remains inaccessible.

Cheers.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-08 16:29:53
DonP: i believe the file cache got corrupted while writing data when the application was killed. I'll make some changes so the application starts up and recovers if the cache is corrupted, should be done either tonight or tomorrow night.

MCoreD: i will put some extra debugging code in the same release. To activate just set <SystemDebugMode>true</SystemDebugMode> in the file MusicBeeSettings.ini located in the same folder as your music library (by default its \My Documents\My Music\MusicBee\MusicBeeSettings.ini) before you start MB. You will need the new release (0.1.3264)

Brent: no plans to open source this for now - if you strongly believe in that sort of thing, SongBird is a good open source app - its where i got some of the ideas for the web integration from. I hadn't heard of MusikCube/wxMusik before so its not based on that.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: shakey_snake on 2008-12-08 22:47:42
shakey_snake: the themeing is basic at the moment - just 2 themes. I was planning to look more seriously at that aspect further down the track after beefing up other functionality. I'll think about what can done sooner as perhaps its more important than what I had thought.

Honestly, it's probably not the most important thing but htat was just my initial impression.

Anyways, I've been using this intermittently for a few days. And I must say I'm still rather impressed.

A few things seem to be missing, or maybe I'm missing them:
1. Embedded cuesheet playback.
2. Gapless playback for mp3s (although I imagine this is why the winamp engine can be used, and is largely out of your hands. I don't have Winamp installed, however. )
3. I'd like to be able to resize the searchbar.
4. It's not immediately clear in the Properties Tab of the Edit Window/pane which fields are editable.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-09 16:36:40
A few things seem to be missing, or maybe I'm missing them:
1. Embedded cuesheet playback.
2. Gapless playback for mp3s (although I imagine this is why the winamp engine can be used, and is largely out of your hands. I don't have Winamp installed, however. )
3. I'd like to be able to resize the searchbar.
4. It's not immediately clear in the Properties Tab of the Edit Window/pane which fields are editable.


1. i dont see any issue if what's needed is reading an embeded cuesheet for a single album file, and then presenting the tracks as individual items in the GUI. Perhaps with some tag editing restrictions. Are you thinking this would be for FLAC files? From what i can see the practice is to use the CUESHEET vorbis comment which is more metadata friendly than the native FLAC CUESHEET block
2. i thought i was already supporting gapless for LAME encoded MP3 (and other formats except AAC) but it seems a late change i made is adding 0.3+ sec when the song starts playing. Its very easy to fix, so i will include in the next release
3. the track finder on the left bar is resizable by dragging the top of that panel up/down. Or are you refering to the other search box on the top menu bar which you want to be able to widen (or reduce)?
4. i'll do something for the next release
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: shakey_snake on 2008-12-09 18:21:14
1. i dont see any issue if what's needed is reading an embeded cuesheet for a single album file, and then presenting the tracks as individual items in the GUI. Perhaps with some tag editing restrictions. Are you thinking this would be for FLAC files? From what i can see the practice is to use the CUESHEET vorbis comment which is more metadata friendly than the native FLAC CUESHEET block
Yeah, for FLAC. I have a number of albums this way, which I have ripped/converted with foobar2000.
I believe foobar saves the cuesheet as tags in the vorbis comment, but don't don't take my word for it.


2. i thought i was already supporting gapless for LAME encoded MP3 (and other formats except AAC) but it seems a late change i made is adding 0.3+ sec when the song starts playing. Its very easy to fix, so i will include in the next release
Awesome to hear.

3. the track finder on the left bar is resizable by dragging the top of that panel up/down. Or are you refering to the other search box on the top menu bar which you want to be able to widen (or reduce)?
Yes, the top one. I was hoping to make it bigger.


Thanks for considering my suggestions.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: vlada on 2008-12-09 21:35:52
Hi,

It looks very nice. It reminds me of Songbird. Maybe it's because both players use XUL for GUI.

But I have a problem - no matter what directory I select, MuxicBee tries to install to C:\Program Files. Please fix this. Also I would really appreciate a version without installer, if it is possible.

According to CD ripping - I don't need that. I have no problems using other ripper such as EAC.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: DonP on 2008-12-10 12:28:34
One thing I see is Musicbee is not picking up the  tags on maybe 15% of my files.  I haven't checked them all, but spot checking shows Foobar and DBPoweramp reading them ok.

The files are from a mix of sources (CD and vinyl rips, downloads from Emusic) and formats.

I know there are retaggers to fix this, but it would be nice if "track order" sort was numeric.  Some of my albums don't have leading zeros, so
the order comes out: 1, 10, 11,  2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-10 18:38:33
One thing I see is Musicbee is not picking up the  tags on maybe 15% of my files.  I haven't checked them all, but spot checking shows Foobar and DBPoweramp reading them ok.

The files are from a mix of sources (CD and vinyl rips, downloads from Emusic) and formats.

I know there are retaggers to fix this, but it would be nice if "track order" sort was numeric.  Some of my albums don't have leading zeros, so
the order comes out: 1, 10, 11,  2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.

don: i've sent a PM for some more details

vlada: no, I use .NET for the GUI - it only uses XUL Runner for the in-built web browsing. I've fixed the installation bug for the next release - thanks for spotting that
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: Balthazaar on 2008-12-10 21:29:33
I know there are retaggers to fix this, but it would be nice if "track order" sort was numeric.  Some of my albums don't have leading zeros, so
the order comes out: 1, 10, 11,  2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.



I had the same issue at first, but found if I selected 'Album Layout' as opposed to 'Detail Layout' the tracks
were ordered correctly.


Mark
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-11 12:07:17
One thing I see is Musicbee is not picking up the  tags on maybe 15% of my files.  I haven't checked them all, but spot checking shows Foobar and DBPoweramp reading them ok.

The files are from a mix of sources (CD and vinyl rips, downloads from Emusic) and formats.

I know there are retaggers to fix this, but it would be nice if "track order" sort was numeric.  Some of my albums don't have leading zeros, so
the order comes out: 1, 10, 11,  2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.

donP: re: missing tags - it was making the assumption that ID3v1 tags didnt need to be read if there were any ID3v2 tags. I will change that so it should work in next release
re: track no sorting - the album layout view should show sorted by track no, but i noticed it's not doing it properly for 'disc - track no' combination so i will fix that
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: ~*McoreD*~ on 2008-12-11 13:45:18
re: track no sorting - the album layout view should show sorted by track no, but i noticed it's not doing it properly for 'disc - track no' combination so i will fix that


stevenmmm, Great job. The new build seems to work without and error on startup. There is a GUI redrawing issue for the Now Playlist Right Side bar.

(http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2978/milkincwalkonwatermusicmh9.th.png) (http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2978/milkincwalkonwatermusicmh9.png)

I was going to post about the Disc#-Track# sorting issue too. Glad you are fixing it.

Cheers,
McoreD
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-14 19:47:07
I have released an update that fixes the reported bugs and also now includes handling for embedded cuesheets (FLAC and WavPack only).
McoreD: I don't know why you are having the problem and have never seen it before, but i have made a change to remove a drawing optimisation that might fix it.

The full install is on available at http://www.getmusicbee.com (http://www.getmusicbee.com) , or if you have already installed previously, you can copy MusicBee.exe from this link http://www.mediafire.com/?gg4mqzwjjtm (http://www.mediafire.com/?gg4mqzwjjtm)
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-21 19:17:47
I've made a new release available:
- New Windows Native skin
- Fix for the Vista users who were unable to login to Last.fm
- Improve exception handling when re-organising files - previously an error dialog would popup when an exception was encountered
- Improve file watcher - now handles files temporarily locked eg. large file copy
- Fix some minor GUI bugs
- Fix device synchronisation freeze when manually copying a second lot of files that already exist on the device

The full install is on http://www.getmusicbee.com (http://www.getmusicbee.com) or alternatively if you have already installed at least once, you can copy MusicBee.exe only from http://www.mediafire.com/?y53n2whtntt (http://www.mediafire.com/?y53n2whtntt)

I'm interested to hear anyone's constructive comments about the functionality/ usability even if you only have a play with it.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: zipr on 2008-12-21 20:19:12
I got an error when I tried to run it after install:
Unable to start MusicBee - An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x8007000B)

Using 64 bit vista.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: shakey_snake on 2008-12-22 00:12:59
awesome update!
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-22 20:08:41
I got an error when I tried to run it after install:
Unable to start MusicBee - An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x8007000B)

Using 64 bit vista.

the current version only supports 32 bit vista. It will probably be like this for some time - before i can look at adding 64 bit for MusicBee, the BASS sound library that is used needs to have 64bit supported, but I know they are working on it. I'll make it clear on the downloads page.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: seVen on 2008-12-22 21:47:15
Hi Steve,
Just want you know that with a non english XP the program doesn't start and give me an exception error at the splash screen, anyway, i have used a fixed exe that you posted on your forum for a non english Vista user and work so i think is better if you fix the full installation archive.

Another error, in the preferences/player if i click the topdown menu for select the player i get an error.
[a href="http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errorux5.jpg" target="_blank"]

EDIT: Added error and request.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-23 20:35:26
Hi Steve,
Just want you know that with a non english XP the program doesn't start and give me an exception error at the splash screen, anyway, i have used a fixed exe that you posted on your forum for a non english Vista user and work so i think is better if you fix the full installation archive.

Another error, in the preferences/player if i click the topdown menu for select the player i get an error.


EDIT: Added error and request. (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errorux5.jpg)

i've updated the full install now with the non-english OS fix, the GUI bug you reported and as the id3v1 request was trivial to implement i have also included that. The new link for the .exe only is [a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?znzdig4gjm4" target="_blank"]http://www.mediafire.com/?znzdig4gjm4[/url]
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: Brent on 2008-12-25 18:17:23
Brent: no plans to open source this for now - if you strongly believe in that sort of thing, SongBird is a good open source app - its where i got some of the ideas for the web integration from. I hadn't heard of MusikCube/wxMusik before so its not based on that.

Strange, because the graphical similarities are uncanny. I mean, that settings screenshot looks exactly like the one in wxMusik. I know, because I worked on that program (it's open source, so it possible you just snagged it, or MusikBox's).

Anyone else here tried those other two programs I mentioned?
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: HotshotGG on 2008-12-25 18:41:31
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Strange, because the graphical similarities are uncanny. I mean, that settings screenshot looks exactly like the one in wxMusik. I know, because I worked on that program (it's open source, so it possible you just snagged it, or MusikBox's).

Anyone else here tried those other two programs I mentioned?


That's what prompted me to the ask question "will this be open-source?" on the first page. I actually had WxMusik in mind. I don't know what features this music manager has when compared to WxMusik, but it would be interesting to do a comparison. Hopefully the similarities stop only with the GUI. It could just be a strange coincidence to, therefore I won't jump to any conclusions. 
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-25 19:16:29

Brent: no plans to open source this for now - if you strongly believe in that sort of thing, SongBird is a good open source app - its where i got some of the ideas for the web integration from. I hadn't heard of MusikCube/wxMusik before so its not based on that.

Strange, because the graphical similarities are uncanny. I mean, that settings screenshot looks exactly like the one in wxMusik. I know, because I worked on that program (it's open source, so it possible you just snagged it, or MusikBox's).

Anyone else here tried those other two programs I mentioned?


i am sorry brent but you are just wrong - MusicBee is not copied from wxMusik or MusikBox in any way whatsoever. As i said i hadn't even heard of or seen those apps before.
I honestly don't know why you think it is copied (for a start both of those systems are written in C++ from what i can see, whereas MusicBee is VB.NET)
I've just downloaded both and I only see a few GUI aspects that are vaguely similar, no more so than certain aspects similar with other music playing applications i've seen and i my opinion not even close overall.

You are referring to the apps on http://musik.berlios.de (http://musik.berlios.de) and http://www.musikcube.com/ (http://www.musikcube.com/) ?

hotshotGG: what GUI screens do you think are the same? - you surely cant be referring to the ones from the websites i listed above. Perhaps you or brent would post a couple of side-by-side screenshots that you think are the same?
I am quite baffled by this
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: Brent on 2008-12-26 22:42:07
The similarities are basically everywhere: the graphical layout seems very similar, and the offered options (almost?) identical. The fact you claim you havnt ever heard of these programs (you link them correctly) makes it even more interesting... I wonder if others (HotshotGG) share this opinion. Because the other apps are actually opensource, a fork (I'm not accusing you) is possible, in which case offering the source is mandatory.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: fbuser on 2008-12-26 23:33:20
Even if there are similarities between the apps, it is simply impossible, that MusicBee is a fork of wxMusic/MusicCube. As stevenmmm stated MusicBee is written in VB.Net, whereas the other apps are written in C++. You can't exchange the code between those programming languages. If you don't believe stevenmmm look at this post (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=67801&view=findpost&p=603497). It is an error message from a .NET application. So please, stop the speculations.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: Big_Berny on 2008-12-27 00:48:35
Stevenmmm and fbuser are right. If it's not the same language it's not the same code base.

It would be a shame if new developers got prevented from making their own tools by such speculations.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-27 10:05:15
The similarities are basically everywhere: the graphical layout seems very similar, and the offered options (almost?) identical. The fact you claim you havnt ever heard of these programs (you link them correctly) makes it even more interesting... I wonder if others (HotshotGG) share this opinion. Because the other apps are actually opensource, a fork (I'm not accusing you) is possible, in which case offering the source is mandatory.


brent: it took me 10 seconds on google by typing in those application names to find the links to the websites.
i have to say i am upset you are smearing something i have put quite a bit of effort into and feel proud of whats been achieved. I do not agree that the apps are largely similar and after playing with those apps find the assertsion quite ridiculous - the only common GUI elements i see are ones you would find in other media players out there (left navigation bar with library and playlists, track browser panel, search box, player controls, artwork, notification tray etc).
Since you won't post side-by-side images, i will so people can make up there own minds
http://www.getmusicbee.com/images/wxMusikScreenshot.jpg (http://www.getmusicbee.com/images/wxMusikScreenshot.jpg)
http://www.getmusicbee.com/images/MusicBeeScreenshot.jpg (http://www.getmusicbee.com/images/MusicBeeScreenshot.jpg)

But I expect we will have to agree to disagree about this
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: seVen on 2008-12-27 14:12:14
i've updated the full install now with the non-english OS fix, the GUI bug you reported and as the id3v1 request was trivial to implement i have also included that. The new link for the .exe only is http://www.mediafire.com/?znzdig4gjm4 (http://www.mediafire.com/?znzdig4gjm4)


Thanx for the update Steve 
Now some other things... first and most important, i can't play AAC files. I got always a warning that the file i'm trying to play is not a valid audio file, tried with both nero encoded and iTunes plus (not protected) files.
Second, great that you support also files with embedded cue (i use single FLAC file for albums) but with them the "artist" field is blank, or better, i see the artist in the field "album artist" which can be correct but i think is better to see it (also or only) in the artist field. Works ok with files where both "album artist" and "artist" tags are filled, ie. compilations with multiple artists.
Last, in preferences/file converters, even if i can edit one of the available would be useful to have also almost a "custom" one so i can use also others encoders, wavpack, tak, etc.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-27 15:32:27
Thanx for the update Steve 
Now some other things... first and most important, i can't play AAC files. I got always a warning that the file i'm trying to play is not a valid audio file, tried with both nero encoded and iTunes plus (not protected) files.
Second, great that you support also files with embedded cue (i use single FLAC file for albums) but with them the "artist" field is blank, or better, i see the artist in the field "album artist" which can be correct but i think is better to see it (also or only) in the artist field. Works ok with files where both "album artist" and "artist" tags are filled, ie. compilations with multiple artists.
Last, in preferences/file converters, even if i can edit one of the available would be useful to have also almost a "custom" one so i can use also others encoders, wavpack, tak, etc.

hi,
re: aac files, there is no AAC decoder distributed with MB - however the error message was supposed to say that! I know other freeware apps do play AAC, but my understanding is patent fees would apply if i included an AAC decoder with MB. However there is a decoder available you can get yourself called BASS_AAC.dll which you probably already have on your machine if you have used other music players. Otherwise see http://www.getmusicbee.com/help/codec/ (http://www.getmusicbee.com/help/codec/) if you need help downloading it to the MB Program folder.

After saying all that it just so happens i have been working on including tagging and playback of DRM protected itunes files using Quicktime for playback, which means normal AAC files can also be played.
The downside with Quicktime is it's a resource hog, and i cant integrate the equaliser or crossfading leading out of the AAC file.
I think its ready for release so i will probably make it available tomorrow night

re: cuesheets, can you send me a copy of the cuesheet for the first 2 cases (no artist showing or only album artist showing)? - its possible there is a bug with the cuesheet parsing, although i suspect with the second case the track performer is not there, so thats a simple fix.

re: file converters, i was going to include WavPack with MB but was having problems with it cutting off the last block of data in the converted file which I wasnt able to get to the bottom of. I'll have another look at it at a later date, and also take up your suggestion about a custom converter
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: seVen on 2008-12-27 23:33:34
hi,
re: aac files, there is no AAC decoder distributed with MB - however the error message was supposed to say that! I know other freeware apps do play AAC, but my understanding is patent fees would apply if i included an AAC decoder with MB. However there is a decoder available you can get yourself called BASS_AAC.dll which you probably already have on your machine if you have used other music players. Otherwise see http://www.getmusicbee.com/help/codec/ (http://www.getmusicbee.com/help/codec/) if you need help downloading it to the MB Program folder.


Hi Steve,
Ooops, i thinked that only the encoder could not be distributed so I haven't noted the miss of the decoder too, sorry. Solved 

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After saying all that it just so happens i have been working on including tagging and playback of DRM protected itunes files using Quicktime for playback, which means normal AAC files can also be played.
The downside with Quicktime is it's a resource hog, and i cant integrate the equaliser or crossfading leading out of the AAC file.
I think its ready for release so i will probably make it available tomorrow night


I hope is selectable because i think is better stay away from QT...

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re: cuesheets, can you send me a copy of the cuesheet for the first 2 cases (no artist showing or only album artist showing)? - its possible there is a bug with the cuesheet parsing, although i suspect with the second case the track performer is not there, so thats a simple fix.


With the cuesheet below for example and the artist tag filled in the FLAC file. I see the artist only in the album artist field. Another thing (and this with all the embedded cue files), if i open the edit window in tags and then move forward/backward between tracks all the fields become blank a part album, album artist, year and genre, also, totaltracks and totaldiscs tags are not recognized.

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REM GENRE Electronic
REM DATE 2008
PERFORMER "Klaus Schulze Feat. Lisa Gerrard"
TITLE "Rheingold - Live At The Loreley"
REM REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_GAIN -3.57 dB
REM REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_PEAK 0.957123
FILE "CDImage.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Alberich"
    REM REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_GAIN -3.54 dB
    REM REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_PEAK 0.957123
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Loreley"
    REM REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_GAIN -3.59 dB
    REM REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_PEAK 0.947357
    INDEX 01 24:35:00


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re: file converters, i was going to include WavPack with MB but was having problems with it cutting off the last block of data in the converted file which I wasnt able to get to the bottom of. I'll have another look at it at a later date, and also take up your suggestion about a custom converter


Thanks and keep up the good work! 
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-28 19:42:51
I've made a new release that includes the following:
- Playback and tag editing of fairplay DRM protected files (playback is via Quicktime)
- Quicktime can also be optionally used for playback of AAC/ MPEG files (set in the Prefences/ Player screen), but keep in mind it is not integrated with the MusicBee Equaliser
- Fix to the reported cuesheet handling bugs (note you currently cannot assign ratings to individual tracks in the cuesheet)
- Fix to mini-player where is couldnt be moved to a new location on the screen

The full install is on http://www.getmusicbee.com/ (http://www.getmusicbee.com/) or if you have installed at least once, copy all the files from http://www.mediafire.com/?amn2nzmmjty (http://www.mediafire.com/?amn2nzmmjty) to the MusicBee program folder
As always, any constructive feedback is welcome even if you just have a play with it
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: seVen on 2008-12-28 20:15:16
Thanks for the new release, now cuesheet handling works well but... "totaldiscs" tag is again not recognized.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-29 12:21:22
Thanks for the new release, now cuesheet handling works well but... "totaldiscs" tag is again not recognized.

currently 'DISCCOUNT' is used - i will also include 'TOTALDISCS'
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: IndieRockSteve on 2008-12-29 15:21:34
great work on a nice music manager, I just wish you had not chosen to throw another Win32 based music manager into the mix and instead worked in a format that could be easily ported to linux and OSX (like using QT instead) where there are really no great music managers available (iTunes and Amarok are obviously good, but neither do nearly as well on music tagging as what can be had in Windows right now).

That said, I'll play around with this at work where I have a Win32 machine (and actually do a lot of music listening anyway...).

edit: So it just finished loading my library here at work, and the track listing area fails to "refresh" and show anything, it just shows whatever the last window I had open has in that area. Same for the Now Playing area.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-29 16:56:46
edit: So it just finished loading my library here at work, and the track listing area fails to "refresh" and show anything, it just shows whatever the last window I had open has in that area. Same for the Now Playing area.

your the 2nd person to report something along this type of behaviour now - what i will do is completely remove a windows redrawing optimisation that i have a suspicion could be causing this. I'll post a link later tonight (UK time).
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: stevenmmm on 2008-12-29 20:38:36
edit: So it just finished loading my library here at work, and the track listing area fails to "refresh" and show anything, it just shows whatever the last window I had open has in that area. Same for the Now Playing area.
hi, please try this patch by copying the files to the MusicBee program folder: http://www.mediafire.com/?njzjkkntzog (http://www.mediafire.com/?njzjkkntzog) http://www.mediafire.com/?dtdwqmdnmyo (http://www.mediafire.com/?dtdwqmdnmyo)
If it doesnt work, would you be able to send me the error log (View/ Error Log menu) as that might give me some other clues

This is not intended for general release, other's can continue to use the version released previously
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: csabo2 on 2009-07-11 15:40:59
I love the program, thanks


side note: anyone know what happened to wxMusik? seems to be dead. download links all removed.
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: eahm on 2012-06-20 00:30:45
MusicBee and qaac (remember to install AppleApplicationSupport.msi if you don't have iTunes or/and QuickTime already installed) ("file archiving" quality is ALAC):

(http://i45.tinypic.com/etf6kl.png)
Title: MusicBee - a Music Manager
Post by: eahm on 2012-06-20 02:06:36
Since --silence files are bit identical, let's short the code and use this one, please remove the previous post.

MusicBee and qaac (remember to install AppleApplicationSupport.msi if you don't have iTunes or/and QuickTime already installed) ("file archiving" quality is ALAC):

(http://i50.tinypic.com/wcmxoj.png)