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REACT 2 Released

Reply #1675 –
About using the "--list", you might want to run just the following, the bare --list lists all info:

Code: [Select]
metaflac.exe --list --block-type=VORBIS_COMMENT "<myfile>.flac"


@Synthetic Soul: Jeez you're fast.

EDIT:

Quote from: Golden-Orb on
With regard to ripping to image rather than tracks I read on a HA forum 'Uploads' by Tycho (16Nov06) that it was preferable to use image mode 'as it may be used for creating both an image and tracks, and is a little more robust. With Nyaochi's excellent ACDIR, it will split the image to tracks while encoding.'

That is very old information. Try the track mode, you might be surprised how fast it actually is. Also, you might want to put "F9 -> Tools ->  On extraction, start external compressors queued in the background" ON and to 1-2 (for single core CPU) in EAC. IIRC, there was also an old recommendation to use the image mode because track mode couldn't handle enhanced CD's (data track) properly. That has been fixed long time ago.

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Reply #1676 –
Quote from: Akkurat on
Quote
something here in HA[/url] (through google, should always first search HA ). Problem introduced in that post.. read the authors answer.


Yes, I'm using WMP Tag Plus and I was aware of the references you mentioned.  I noted that Tim De Baets, the author, stated that 'WMP Tag Plus does support the "album artist" field of FLAC files, but only when it's stored as a Vorbis tag. FLAC files can contain both ID3 and Vorbis tags'.  To be honest, I would not know whether my FLAC files have Vorbis tags or ID3 tags.

Following through on the second reference Tim De Baets indicates that he's modified WMP Tag Plus to cater for both "Album Artist" and AlbumArtist".

As mentioned in my reply to 'Synthetic Soul' when I changed the "Album Artist" tag from blank to "Various Artists" for all my FLAC files (using MP3Tag) WMP 12 happily treated my ripped 'Various Artists' FLAC files as belonging to a single album instead of multi-albums.

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Reply #1677 –
FYI: Here's what Tag reports for my two test tracks.  Note the inclusion of the "album artist" tag.

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C:\Documents and Settings\Neil\My Documents\My Music\Flac\Various Artists\Album
Title>tag *.flac
Tag - Automatic Tag from filename
Copyright © 2002-2003 Case.  Minor additions by Neil Popham, 2004-2007
Version 2.0.53b1, Compiled 2007-05-07

C:\Documents and Settings\Neil\My Documents\My Music\Flac\Various Artists\Album
Title\01 - Track 1 (Artist 1).flac
Format:  FLAC
Details: 44100 Hz Stereo, 1025 kbps, playtime 04:03
Tag:     FLAC
Title:   Track 1
Artist:  Artist 1
Album:   Album Title
Year:    2006
Track:   01/02
Genre:   Synthpop
Comment: XX
album artist=Various Artists
encoded-by=neil
encoding=Flac 1.2.1b -5 -f

C:\Documents and Settings\Neil\My Documents\My Music\Flac\Various Artists\Album
Title\02 - Track 2 (Artist 1).flac
Format:  FLAC
Details: 44100 Hz Stereo, 756 kbps, playtime 02:29
Tag:     FLAC
Title:   Track 2
Artist:  Artist 1
Album:   Album Title
Year:    2006
Track:   02/02
Genre:   Synthpop
Comment: XX
album artist=Various Artists
encoded-by=neil
encoding=Flac 1.2.1b -5 -f
@Akkurat: Yeah, I just thought --list was shorter to write!

Edit: OK, on testing, it seems that MP3Tag writes a BAND tag, as suspected:

Code: [Select]
C:\Documents and Settings\Neil\My Documents\My Music\Flac\Various Artists\Album
Title>tag *.flac
Tag - Automatic Tag from filename
Copyright © 2002-2003 Case.  Minor additions by Neil Popham, 2004-2007
Version 2.0.53b1, Compiled 2007-05-07

C:\Documents and Settings\Neil\My Documents\My Music\Flac\Various Artists\Album
Title\01 - Track 1 (Artist 1).flac
Format:  FLAC
Details: 44100 Hz Stereo, 1025 kbps, playtime 04:03
Tag:     FLAC
Title:   Track 1
Artist:  Artist 1
Album:   Album Title
Year:    2006
Track:   01/02
Genre:   Synthpop
Comment: XX
album artist=Various Artists
encoded-by=neil
encoding=Flac 1.2.1b -5 -f
BAND=Various Artists

C:\Documents and Settings\Neil\My Documents\My Music\Flac\Various Artists\Album
Title\02 - Track 2 (Artist 1).flac
Format:  FLAC
Details: 44100 Hz Stereo, 756 kbps, playtime 02:29
Tag:     FLAC
Title:   Track 2
Artist:  Artist 1
Album:   Album Title
Year:    2006
Track:   02/02
Genre:   Synthpop
Comment: XX
album artist=Various Artists
encoded-by=neil
encoding=Flac 1.2.1b -5 -f
BAND=Various Artists
So, perhaps, if BAND is working for you, you could change the line to:

Code: [Select]
IF @various@==1 SET VA_tag=-T $qBAND=@VA@$q
I'm on a horse.

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Reply #1678 –
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Yeah, I just thought --list was shorter to write!

But possibly outputs thousands of lines.. have you ever tried that command with a flac file that has embedded artwork?

@Golden-Orb: I think that, as Synthetic Soul pointed out, you might have an old version of the WMP Tag Plus app. Try updating that first, if the VA tags doesn't work, then report back to the author of that program, and/or amend your REACT config file with the "BAND" as Synthetic Soul advised.

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Reply #1679 –
Quote from: Synthetic Soul on
Looking at the forum thread that Akkurat linked to, it looks like 1.1 will support "ALBUM ARTIST" as well as "ALBUMARTIST".

Do you know if you have 1.0 or 1.1?  The change to support "ALBUM ARTIST" was made in 1.1, according to the changelog.


I'm using version 1.1.

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Tag[/url].

Code: [Select]
metaflac --list "myflac.flac"

Code: [Select]
tag "myflac.flac"

I'd be very interested to see the results of either of these posted.


Thanks, I'll give that a shot and let you know the results.

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Reply #1680 –
Quote from: Akkurat on
But possibly outputs thousands of lines.. have you ever tried that command with a flac file that has embedded artwork?
No, I don't really use FLAC.  Fair enough.

Quote from: Golden-Orb on
Thanks, I'll give that a shot and let you know the results.
If MP3Tag writing a BAND tag is working for you then I'm 99% sure that this should end in success.  I am a little curious why "ALBUMARTIST" and "ALBUM ARTIST" are reported to work and don't, but "BAND" does, but hey!
I'm on a horse.

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Reply #1681 –
I just installed REACT 2.0akku.b04 onto the latest EAC and am having problems setting up multi disc sets.  React doesn't seem to find the disc set info.  I've looked at the processing bat files and the totalDiscs and discNumber fields don't seem to be reading from either the react.ini or meta.ini files.  In fact, the meta.ini file is never created automatically.

Any help troubleshooting would be greatly appreciated.

Dave

Edit - Running on Windows 7 32bit.  Had to install in a non standard path to get the program to run at all.  I've changed the ini file to point to the correct places for react tools and eac. everything works fine until I try to do a multi disc set.

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Reply #1682 –
deltadave, check this post.. and the next one after that.

If you find a working combination, let me know.

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Reply #1683 –
Quote from: Akkurat on
deltadave, check this post.. and the next one after that.

If you find a working combination, let me know.



I figured it out - combination of logic error in my cfg file and using Alt f5 to start the rip.  Switching to f4 fixed the meta.ini problem and my logic error is now fixed.  All seems to be working.

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Reply #1684 –
I'm working to get REACT setup for ripping to both flac and mp3, and I think I've about got it.  However, after looking at the replaygains on the same file in flac vs mp3, they seem to be different.  I am using the following options in the REACT.ini:
Code: [Select]
ReplayGain=1
ApplyAlbumGain=1
AdjustAlbumGain_dB=0

From fb2k:

flac file:
Code: [Select]
On the metadata tab:
<REPLAYGAIN_REFERENCE_LOUDNESS> : 89.0 dB

On the properties tab:
Track Gain : -2.76 dB
Track Peak : 0.960754
Album Gain : -4.21 dB
Album Peak : 1.000000

mp3 file:
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On metadata tab: 
<ENCODING SETTINGS> : LAME 3.98.2 -V2 --noreplaygain --nohist
<MP3GAIN_UNDO> : +003,+003,N

From properties tab:
Track Gain : +1.69 dB
Track Peak : 0.567902
Album Gain : +0.28 dB
Album Peak : 0.608132

Shouldn't they be the same, or am I missing something obvious?  I'm a bit of newb to this stuff.

Thanks,
Bryce

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Reply #1685 –
No, this is correct.  Your mp3 files have had -4.5 dB of gain applied to them while your flac files have been left alone.

If you were to play them back with RG enabled, they will have essentially the same level.  If you undo the gain applied to the mp3 file, the RG values will be essentially the same as the flac files (assuming that those RG values are stored in such a way that mp3gain is aware of them and can change them back, otherwise you will need to rescan).

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Reply #1686 –
Thanks for the response greynol, I appreciate it.

I think I didn't completely understand the implementations of track/album gain completely when I asked that.

Let me see if I have this straight now:

mp3 files:
Album gain normalizes perceived loudness of an album as close as it can get 89dB in 1.5dB steps, maintaining relative (intra-album) loudness differences.  To do this, it adjusts every mp3 file within an album by the same amount, which will be some positive or negative multiple of 1.5dB, by adjusting the per-frame gain values within the mp3 file. 

It then stores the mp3gain undo info in the tag (I'd guess it looks like +3, +3, N due to it having something to raising the per frame gain value by 3 bits *1.5dB/bit making it original again?).  It also stores the "remainder" of the album gain in the tag to get it exactly to 89dB if playing it in a player that can read those tags, as well as storing the track replay gain.


flac files:
Both album and track gains are stored as exact values in the tag for fb2k to use for playback.

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Assuming I've got it right, one more question: If I rip in image mode for the flacs, where do album gain and track gain get stored?  I assume album gain can go in the tag structure somewhere, but does trackgain info get stored at all?  I guess it doesn't really matter though, since I don't think you can randomize tracks when inside an image in fb2k(?)

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Finally, is there a "best" cuesheet type if I chose to rip flacs in image mode, with the intent to be able to burn bit-perfect copies, as well as play back nicely in fb2k?  I had everything setup to do flac and mp3 tracks, but I think I'd rather have flac images and mp3 tracks.


Thanks,
Bryce

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Reply #1687 –
Quote from: brycemc on
If I rip in image mode for the flacs ... does trackgain info get stored at all?

No.

Quote from: brycemc on
Finally, is there a "best" cuesheet type if I chose to rip flacs in image mode

Cuesheet is automatically created for images, you don't have to use the "CreateCuesheet=" INI setting.

About RG: a bit wrong topic for this.. anyways, I think that you got it right (I'm not into the technical side of it), greynol (or somebody else) can verify this.
 

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Reply #1688 –
Quote from: Akkurat on
Quote from: brycemc on
If I rip in image mode for the flacs ... does trackgain info get stored at all?
No.

Quote from: brycemc on
Finally, is there a "best" cuesheet type if I chose to rip flacs in image mode
Cuesheet is automatically created for images, you don't have to use the "CreateCuesheet=" INI setting.

About RG: a bit wrong topic for this.. anyways, I think that you got it right (I'm not into the technical side of it), greynol (or somebody else) can verify this.

Thanks Akkurat, and thanks a ton for all your hard work on the mod and answering all the questions us newbies ask .

Sorry for drifting off topic a bit. 

Couple more quick questions:

1) The EAC extended info (like if I click database -> disc info - > extended) is just for the EAC database correct?  Is there anyway to get this info into the tagging or the .cue easily?

2) I'd like to rename the logfile to something other than EAClog.txt, so that Cuetools can find it...would replacing the "EAClog.txt" in the config with something like "$cdartist$ - $album$.log" work?  I'm not sure where various varibiles are defined yet.  It seems like this might work, so I tried it and am ripping a disc right now to see if it does. I just did this and it seems to have worked perfectly, so I think I've got it .

Thanks again!

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Reply #1689 –
Quote from: brycemc on
The EAC extended info (like if I click database -> disc info - > extended) is just for the EAC database correct?  Is there anyway to get this info into the tagging or the .cue easily?
No. What info is there? Sometimes a YEAR info, very rarely EAN/UPC and/or cat#. It varies and most of the time it's information that is already present (year) or nothing at all.. IME. It's in Freedb and it's submitted by various users = no conformity. Hard to rely on that.. sure you could automate that to tags/cue somehow but there's no point IMHO.

If you want extra info, learn to use the "additional metadata dialog/system". In example, I use the following add. metadata (taken from the INI):

Code: [Select]
[DefaultMetaData]
discnumber=1
totaldiscs=1
discname=
barcode=
catnum=
madein=
value=
trackcomment[1]=
trackcomment[2]=
trackcomment[3]=
trackcomment[4]=
trackcomment[5]=
trackcomment[6]=
trackcomment[7]=
trackcomment[8]=
trackcomment[9]=
trackcomment[10]=
trackcomment[11]=
trackcomment[12]=
trackcomment[13]=
trackcomment[14]=
trackcomment[15]=
trackcomment[16]=
trackcomment[17]=
trackcomment[18]=
trackcomment[19]=
trackcomment[20]=
I always enter values to "barcode, catnum, madein & value" when ripping, others if needed. Remember that those "track tokens" require a bit of extra knowledge how to amend the configs (=batch programming). E.g. in order to avoid tagging values with tag names (e.g. you might get trackcomment=@trackcomment@ (tag name=tag value)). Here's an example how to avoid that.. from my custom track config:

Code: [Select]
REM ** Check that "literal" trackcomment tokens are not written to tags.
REM ** This could happen if there's more tracks than defined in INI DefaultMetaData settings,
REM ** e.g. 20 trackcomments in INI, CD has 25 tracks = last 5 tracks would have "@trackcomment@" strings in tags.
SET trackcomment=trackcomment
REM ** REACT token substitution workaround.
SET trackcomment=@%trackcomment%@
IF "@trackcomment@" EQU "%trackcomment%" (
	SET trackcomment=""
) ELSE (
	SET trackcomment="@trackcomment@"
)
(and then use %trackcomment% variable..)


When it comes to metadata for tagging music, any metadata, coming from anywhere, you really can't trust it (if you want it to be 100% perfect/the way you want it). So, if you are hellbent to get perfect metadata, especially additional, you have to enter it manually. Using e.g. freedb as a helper, as in: get data, check it and amend if needed (+ enter any add. data from scratch).

EDIT: P.S. no need to quote when answering to previous post. Also, avoid full quotes, especially long quotes. Welcome to HA btw, I hope you enjoy the ride

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Reply #1690 –
Thanks again . 

I was attempting to use that extended dialog to type my own comments in with the expectation of getting them into the tags somehow.  I'll see what I can manage with the additional metadata system...I'd been aware of it's existence, but hadn't tried to use it yet; somehow I'd missed that section of the wiki despite reading the top half of that page at least a few times.  I want to add things like performer info for mixed classical cds, BWV and the like, maybe other info on a per track basis, as well as specific release disc info for some of my rarer releases. 

Now to read up on flac tagging and the scripting to make it work

Thanks a ton!

-Bryce

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Reply #1691 –
Why do i get TWO albums ripped in ONE folder? This only happens in FLAC image folder. Mp3 folder is empty? Only cover art inside.

Example:

First i ripped Romantic Warrior. It was ok.

G:\Music\FLAC\Return to Forever\Romantic Warrior
G:\Music\MP3\Return to Forever\Romantic Warrior

But then i ripped disc1 of Anthology of RTF.

And whole image and cuesheet was ripped to the SAME directory (Romantic Warrior disc).

Mp3 folder is EMPTY. Only cover art is inside.





WHY?


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Reply #1692 –
Sorry for the late reply.

I've no idea what is going on. Hard to tell only from looking at the end result. Could it be related to your old problem here? I see from your post history that you've had too many problems with/setting up REACT, sorry to see that.

1) Does this happen every time with the same disc?
2) I see that you're ripping/encoding straight to external HD, could that be the cause? (I doubt it but..)
3) Have you changed REACT/Win settings lately? And have you ever amended REACT config files yourself?
4) Can you reproduce this? (steps) Also put DebugMode and Debug to 1 and try to check out the output of the console window if there's errors or any oddness while encoding. Paste the contents of the debugging.txt from REACT folder here.

EDIT: It seems that the "Anthology" disc was ripped to wav only, with no encoding/etc. done after that. Also, is the "folder.jpg" in the "music" folder or in the "Anthology" subfolder? Hard to tell from that 1st picture. Anyways, try again and see if you can reproduce it with steps.

EDIT2: Does it work if you don't use the "discnumber/totaldiscs" additional metadata feature?

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Reply #1693 –
Quote from: Akkurat on
Sorry for the late reply.

I've no idea what is going on. Hard to tell only from looking at the end result. Could it be related to your old problem here? I see from your post history that you've had too many problems with/setting up REACT, sorry to see that.

1) Does this happen every time with the same disc?
2) I see that you're ripping/encoding straight to external HD, could that be the cause? (I doubt it but..)
3) Have you changed REACT/Win settings lately? And have you ever amended REACT config files yourself?
4) Can you reproduce this? (steps) Also put DebugMode and Debug to 1 and try to check out the output of the console window if there's errors or any oddness while encoding. Paste the contents of the debugging.txt from REACT folder here.

EDIT: It seems that the "Anthology" disc was ripped to wav only, with no encoding/etc. done after that. Also, is the "folder.jpg" in the "music" folder or in the "Anthology" subfolder? Hard to tell from that 1st picture. Anyways, try again and see if you can reproduce it with steps.

EDIT2: Does it work if you don't use the "discnumber/totaldiscs" additional metadata feature?



Its internal hard drive.

I reinstalled operating system and configured REACT again.
Yes every time with same disc

I also tried to leave all setting default and it was not better.

I will try without disc number. Why?

My os is Win 7 64bit. I have too many problems with REACT. I dont know why...

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Reply #1694 –
Now i really dont know what is with REACT. Yesterday i reinstalled EAC, REACT, Albumartdownloader and configured everything again. And copied from my backup REACT.ini and only changed path to my music directory...
Now everything WORKS. WTF?

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Reply #1695 –
Maybe it's not REACT?  Anyways, good to hear that everything works again.

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Reply #1696 –
I don't like the idea of asking this but can someone tell me how to make REACT do this?

My gut reaction is that REACT is not for me as I cannot make head nor tail of it but since the only alternative anyone can suggest needs me to pay $36 to get the full use of it, I figured I may as well have one last shot at this before giving up.

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Reply #1697 –
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I don't like the idea of asking this but can someone tell me how to make REACT do this?

Like greynol told you in the other topic, definitely yes.

This might not be what you want to hear but given that my past effort at a small guide to get you started didn't yield any results, REACT might just be too difficult for you... though I disagree about your definition of it being a "learning brick wall", many users have learned to use it, some on their own, some with help (of course there's the ones that give up without posting here though).

What is it that goes wrong with REACT? You saying that it just doesn't work doesn't leave much room for helping you out. Check the guide and then come back with detailed steps of what you do when something goes wrong. Ok?

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Reply #1698 –
Forgot to add: include your INI file contents in CODEBOX tags if/when you report problems.

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Reply #1699 –
You're right, it may just be too difficult for me, in which case I would say my 'brick wall' analogy is correct - not necessarily for everyone, quite possibly just for me.

I did try following your guide previously, with minimal success.
Unfortunately I haven't had enough free time in a single block to be able to dedicate to this, I've just been going back to it on and off over time, which can't have helped.

I'm going to start following the guide from scratch again and see if I can make a better go of it but if past form is anything to go by then I may be destined for failure.