so why this don't work for the theme???

Note: You can only define globals in the global string - i.e. you cannot access defined globals.

OCedHrt: I'm too lazy to check what it looks like on my own computer, but it's probably an issue with that particular style (it's the Watercolor version of HmmXP right?). As in, that line is probably part of the tab glyphs or whatever as defined in the actual visual style.

Quote from: LTourist on 2006-05-16 18:06:59

so why this don't work for the theme???

from the Columns UI wiki:

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Note: You can only define globals in the global string - i.e. you cannot access defined globals.

I have searched and searched but can't seem to find anything on this.

%_isplaying% doesn't seem to work when you switch playlists. e.g. if I have the same track in two different playlists the %_isplaying% function only seems to recognise a track as playing in the playlist it was played from.

Am I missing something? This worked fine in 0.83

%_isplaying% doesn't seem to work when you switch playlists. e.g. if I have the same track in two different playlists the %_isplaying% function only seems to recognise a track as playing in the playlist it was played from.

o. Well then.

I suppose there's two parts to the issue:

(1) Tabs in Windows are designed to be used at the top of a pane.

(2) Play-list tabs in particular are designed to be used like a splitter, meaning they're supposed to 'contain' the play list, and it must be necessary to add the top pixels of the tab pane to the bottom of the tabs in order for the pane as a whole to look the way it's intended to. If you decide you don't want to use it the way it's designed to be used, it's naturally going to look weird.

A possible solution might be for musicmusic to add something to check whether or not the tab 'splitter' contains something. If it does it'd continue to work the way it is in your picture, and if it doesn't it would use the individual tab glyphs and ignore the pane graphics entirely.

I obviously have no idea whether or not musicmusic could easily do that, though.

After looking closer at my layout with 1.3beta1v2, I notice that the line is still there, but in a much less noticeable color. This means I much prefer the old color

ok Thx i didn't see that, and even if I saw it, I think I didn't realize what it means  Thx, but know, I must find a way to do what I want... Does anyone have a idea???

Vertical splitter
|-- menu
|-- Horiz. Splitter ...
|-- Horiz. Splitter ...
|-- Playlist Dropdown

>> 2-3 px space necessary for dropdown!!! <<

|-- Columns Playlist

Quote from: OCedHrt on 2006-05-18 01:43:51

After looking closer at my layout with 1.3beta1v2, I notice that the line is still there, but in a much less noticeable color. This means I much prefer the old color

Well, I haven't changed anything.

I would suggest you put the playlist in your tabs.

That is how they were intended to be used.

If you didn't know, now you do..

I found another bug(?)/wierdness in the layout system: everytime I change something in the layout (lock status in my case), the Playlist view loses his Edge style setting. Example:
I've got the following layout:

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...
V. splitter
  H. splitter
    ...
  Playlist view

When I change the lock status of the h. splitter, the Playlist view loses his Edge style (switches (reverts?) to 'None'), but in the options the drop-down-box is still set to 'Sunken'. I have to reselect 'Sunken' to make it display again.
Don't know if it is of importance, but I had 'None' before I changed to Sunken. Maybe after a restart....
Ok after a restart it stopped reverting back to 'None'.
Is it intended? By design?

' date='May 11 2006, 02:24' post='391339']
@music² : Is there any way that logarithmic scale for frequencies on the spectro could be made?  Just use log(freq) instead of freq as a scale, and use log(20) and log(22000) as extremums...  This would be really great, and would fill the spectro more than it currently is (with dead high-ends...)
Also, I'm not sure if you're combining both channels into mono before displaying the spectro, but individual channel displays would be sweet, too

Thanks for your time,
T.

Feature Request.
Ability to clone layout presets. It is a pain to set everything right if you want some stuff to stay the same for different presets. Like my fileinfo fields. I have 7 of them.

I don't know if this either the time or the place for a feature request...but would it be possible to allow the user to add multiple column ui playlists (we can do this already), but to specify which playlist is opened in each instance?

Cheers

using the new album list panel, is there any way to use the directory structure but remove the bullets/arrows?

hi musicmusic, I have got a strange behaviour and I guess it's more due to ColumnsUI than to the used component PlaylistDropdown.

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Vertical splitter
|-- menu
|-- Horiz. Splitter ...
|-- Horiz. Splitter ...
|-- Playlist Dropdown

>> 2-3 px space necessary for dropdown!!! <<

|-- Columns Playlist

I have to left 2-3px space between Playlist-Dropdown and Columns Playlist to be able to see the drop-down-box of Playlist-Dopdown.
If I don't spend this space, it looks like Playlist-Dropdown opens but gets covered by Columns Playlist 

I feel sorry that I cannot give a pic atm.

Proposal for radically different playlist-sort approach in 0.1.4:
I think sort-patterns should be completely seperate from the defined columns. Currently, they are linked to individual columns, but i do not think that this is a good idea, because one may want sort-criterias which do not relate to any specific column.

Keeping sorting independent from columns also allows the possibility to have FCS-independent sort-patterns - thus, defining your favorite sort-patterns, and then import various FCSs (possibly unchecking an "import sort-patterns"-checkbox) while keeping your defined sort-criterias.

Another reason for this approach is usability: According to which criterias a person wants to sort, has not much to do with which playlist-design he prefers. Needed sort criterias depend on music collection-type, listening-habbits, etc. etc. - it is mostly unrelated to visual preferences(playlist design).

From an UI-POV, i think sorting should be done via a dropdown-menu toolbar-element.

- Lyx

I think you entirely missed the point of searching by columns. I think instead you are probably misusing the ability to sort by columns with a custom script, or even misusing the columns ("album formattings" kind of comes under that).

As for it being useless: I use it all the time to do sorting on the fly without having to write scripts. For example, if I want to sort by artist and title I click on title column then artist column. That is why I haven't bothered porting foo_custom_sort, which sounds more like what you want..

In addition I am hardly going to add random toolbars built into foo_ui_columns.dll, even more so if they don't particularly belong there..

In the spirit of HA that kindly hosts this forum, and in the spirit of TOS8, statements like this seems out of place:

"the real world in practice"
"a user who is known to think about usability alot"
"for the majority of users"

Quote from: musicmusic on 2006-05-20 20:15:54

I think you entirely missed the point of searching by columns. I think instead you are probably misusing the ability to sort by columns with a custom script, or even misusing the columns ("album formattings" kind of comes under that).

Quite alot of asumptions without a basic foundation to base them on.

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As for it being useless: I use it all the time to do sorting on the fly without having to write scripts. For example, if I want to sort by artist and title I click on title column then artist column. That is why I haven't bothered porting foo_custom_sort, which sounds more like what you want..

I see - if it works for your config for your purposes, then it has to work for everyone else.

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In addition I am hardly going to add random toolbars built into foo_ui_columns.dll, even more so if they don't particularly belong there..

Based on your previous above asumptions that they are unneeded.

It is your component and you decide what to do with it. If you simply say "i'm not interested in that" or "i dont have the time", then i would accept that without any questions asked.

But half-heartedly refusing a proposal from a user who is known to think about usability alot,

with arguments which more or less simply said "it works for me so your idea sucks" - thus, completely void arguments, is like telling constructive users that they are simply wasting their time if they think about how to make columns ui better for the majority of users.

Since this is not the first time, that constructive criticicm and ideas of me got refused simply because of ignorance, i got the message and will spent my efforts more efficiently in the future. To clarify it a second time, this is not about you disagreeing with me - it is about the reasons and attitude with which you disagree. You are a great coder and created the most powerful UI for foobar - usability, UI-design and social-design however are not among your strengths. This by itself is not bad - everyone has his/her strength and weaknesses - the more wise ones however are aware of that and value advice from outside in those areas.

good luck,
- Lyx