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Track Order???

Hi, Greetings from New Zealand. I'm pretty much new to Foobar2000 and certainly new to this forum, so this topic may have been discussed previously. If so, I apologise humbly yet profusely.
So here is my problem. As well as a few hundred rock, blues and jazz CDs, I have over 100 complete operas also on CD. Last week I started to transfer the operas over from Media Monkey, which I found was extremely eratic. The track number information in Windows 10 was fine. The Converter Output Foobar produced was the information that I required, which filled me with hope, but, alas I was seriously misled. I was unable to save the Converter Output and the subsequent track number information produced in Foobar2000, Metadata was not in order being at best, random. This followed through to how the opera played. For instance, in the Opera Das Rheingold track 1 was the 12th track played, the 1st track played being track 7, the 2nd track played was track 10 etc.
I then tried renaming the tracks by prefixing them with a number in Windows ie 01-. As soon as I changed the title by adding the number, the number disappeared on the majority of the tracks but not all of them. The track order information therefore, did not change.
As you will all know  ;)  ;)  ;) , an opera played with random track order is pretty much a random, waste of time. Is there any way I can get the tracks in order, for instance by copying the order of the hashtag in Windows? I've been trying to get these tracks in order for over a week now and I'm reluctantly, very close to returning to Media Monkey.

Salutations, Jambo (We should never have been relegated) 7





Re: Track Order???

Reply #1
If the filenames still contain the correct playback order information, you can use Foobar to update the metadata from the filenames. You can also retag the files from an external source.

Foobar2000:Properties / Automatically Fill Values
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?  ;~)

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Reply #2
2tec,
Thanks for the reply. I'll try your suggestion tomorrow as here in NZ it is past my bedtime.
Cheers for now, Jambo7

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Reply #3
I wonder, why are you using the "converter"? A media player can index your files where they are.

I don't know if MediaMonkey has an "external" database (fb2k does not do that by default, but it can be done) - the typical way of doing all this is to read from tags.
(Are you simply referring to playlist item numbers? It might be that you have gotten some terminology wrong and therefore are putting the software at work with something else than you think it is doing, hence all these dumb questions.)
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Reply #4
Porcus,
When I'm at my day-job where I lecture at first year university level in Evolution and at final year honours level in Behavioural Ecology as well as supervising 3 Masters students and two PhDs, I encourage questions. Asking questions is the way people learn, no matter what you think is the quality of the questions.

I am trying to learn. In my first post I have admitted that I am only a beginner. So I don't need some show-off, cyber bully, cretin such as yourself dismissing my questions as dumb.

BTW, I reread my first post and there only seems to be a single question so you are clearly not someone versed in the ancient art of arithmetic; that's counting to you. And I used the converter because my files were in .WAV format and as I wanted to save space on my hard drive I converted them to .MP3. Sorry was that a dumb thing to do, Porcus?

Now go away and stare into a mirror and admire yourself.

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Reply #5
Hi there,

The track number information in Windows 10 was fine.
Are you referring to the filenames, or looking at right-click Properties > Details tab? (I would not rely on Windows to correctly tag in this way)

In any case, WAV files do not support metadata (though some programs might force ID3 tags anyway), so you would need the track number (and ideally disc number) information as the first part of the filename. Then you could use Automatically Fill Values as suggested by 2tec to correct the tags, for example -

Filename: 1.01 - Bob Marley - No Woman, No Cry
Pattern: %discnumber%.%tracknumber% - %artist% - %title%

Once files are tagged correctly, just re-sort the playlist by clicking the 'Track No' column or use Edit > Sort menu.

Instead of ripping CDs to WAV files which do not support metadata, it would be better to rip to FLAC. Then most ripping programs can add the correct metadata from internet lookup and tag appropriately in one operation.

Also when using the foobar Converter, be sure to enter the Other sub-page and enable 'Transfer metadata (tags)' option. (I cannot remember if it does by default)

Cheers

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Reply #6
Porcus,
When I'm at my day-job where I lecture at first year university level in Evolution and at final year honours level in Behavioural Ecology as well as supervising 3 Masters students and two PhDs, I encourage questions. Asking questions is the way people learn, no matter what you think is the quality of the questions.

I am trying to learn. In my first post I have admitted that I am only a beginner. So I don't need some show-off, cyber bully, cretin such as yourself dismissing my questions as dumb.

BTW, I reread my first post and there only seems to be a single question so you are clearly not someone versed in the ancient art of arithmetic; that's counting to you. And I used the converter because my files were in .WAV format and as I wanted to save space on my hard drive I converted them to .MP3. Sorry was that a dumb thing to do, Porcus?

Now go away and stare into a mirror and admire yourself.

Porcus was asking a genuine honest question born from experience with users who are new to using foobar2000 (since it's unlike any other players, simple common mistakes happen often). Your reaction is vile and totally unwarranted. Imho you don't deserve the help that is offererd to you here. Never have I seen such a two faced reaction, first a nice introduction asking for help, then a baseless arrogant and very rude comment coming out of nowhere. This at least deserves an admin intervention tbh.

 

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Reply #7
Sorry, I'm not sure I understand this. I asked a single beginners question. Porcus writes back stating that I asked a dumb question and you thought my reaction was vile???

Are we on the same planet???

I joined this forum because I really believed that I could get guidance and help in using an app that was new to me. I was clearly very much mistaken. In less than 24 hours, I've been called dumb and a second contributor advocates that action should be taken against me??? What kind of forum is this???

I'll say thanks to the two people who offered some constructive help and wish everyone an enormously relieved goodbye.

Cheers

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Reply #8
such as yourself dismissing my questions as dumb.

I called my questions dumb, and tried to apologize for asking you dumb questions.

I hereby retract that apology.
High Voltage socket-nose-avatar

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Reply #9
I'll say thanks to the two people who offered some constructive help and wish everyone an enormously relieved goodbye.
You're most welcome.

It's all too easy to be overly-sensitive or overly critical. However I'm inclined to side with a new user who had no idea of how brutally honest this forum can sometimes be. While I appreciate the fact that many people here have contributed so much, it seems a shame that we sometimes discourage those who also share our interests and might contribute something themselves someday.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?  ;~)

 
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