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Misc. => Off-Topic => Topic started by: kode54 on 2021-05-02 00:36:23

Title: Spectre is back, and we're apparently all screwed
Post by: kode54 on 2021-05-02 00:36:23
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/04/210430165903.htm

So, the gist of it is, Spectre was a problem discovered in 2018, and a new research team has discovered a vulnerability related to it that renders all mitigations to date null and void. Affecting both Intel and AMD processors which have micro-op caches. The research team says there's no mitigation yet, and any mitigation is likely to have a severe impact on performance, so "good luck everyone!"
Title: Re: Spectre is back, and we're apparently all screwed
Post by: mudlord on 2021-05-07 10:36:10
All CPUs are doomed.
Title: Re: Spectre is back, and we're apparently all screwed
Post by: kode54 on 2021-05-08 22:11:37
No, at this point, only CISC CPUs of the majority AMD x86_64 instruction set are doomed. That article says nothing about RISC CPUs, nor about any software translation employed by operating systems running on those RISC CPUs. No mention of ARM, PowerPC, or RISC-V in that article, just Intel and AMD x86_64 processors.
Title: Re: Spectre is back, and we're apparently all screwed
Post by: mudlord on 2021-05-09 04:11:44
Which is the majority of desktops. Meaning we as consumers for any decent performant things are doomed.
Title: Re: Spectre is back, and we're apparently all screwed
Post by: kode54 on 2021-05-10 02:54:17
I consider RISC performant enough. Was nice knowing x86 hardware, and I mean this generously, because it really wasn't nice knowing that huge hot mess of an instruction set.
Title: Re: Spectre is back, and we're apparently all screwed
Post by: mudlord on 2021-05-11 03:15:52
True. :)
x86 was indeed a garbage fire.
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