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Reply #325 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
1. Yes
2. Yes, 64 (that's including file://). No, it's a limitation of the iPod, it skips the files otherwise (although I haven't tested it on the 5G).


its really annoying the path length limit, but if its a iPod limitation i'll have to live with it.

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Reply #326 –
Quote from: 2Pacalypse on
Quote from: musicmusic on

1. Yes
2. Yes, 64 (that's including file://). No, it's a limitation of the iPod, it skips the files otherwise (although I haven't tested it on the 5G).


its really annoying the path length limit, but if its a iPod limitation i'll have to live with it.

Yes we have to live with it but it could oblige me not to use ipod firmware anymore since:
If i transfer my music on my ipod with itunes i can still read it on rockbox using the tagcache but i wont see any coverart since rockbox see coverart as a cover.bmp in the same directory as the song.

Another thing about this limitation, is it a firmware limitation or a hardware limitation? Cause if it is a firmware limitation i could ask in ipod wizard forum if something could be done to change that limit.

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Reply #327 –
Quote
Yes we have to live with it but it could oblige me not to use ipod firmware anymore since:
If i transfer my music on my ipod with itunes i can still read it on rockbox using the tagcache but i wont see any coverart since rockbox see coverart as a cover.bmp in the same directory as the song.


i have to wait for rockbox to support the new video iPod!

Musicmatch: is the new "sync with iPod" from the file menu simply the same as the one from the right click menu?

It would be nice to have a sync with media library!

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Reply #328 –
Quote from: carmenm on
Another thing about this limitation, is it a firmware limitation or a hardware limitation? Cause if it is a firmware limitation i could ask in ipod wizard forum if something could be done to change that limit.
I would imagine it's a firmware limitation. There was some discussion on page 3 of this thread (and some more in foo_pod's thread I think), but like I said I haven't checked if the same limitation exists on 5G. The limit seemed to be different on a 3G and 4G.

Quote from: 2Pacalypse on
Musicmatch: is the new "sync with iPod" from the file menu simply the same as the one from the right click menu?

No. Check changelog, or try the command
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Reply #329 –
Just added this to the feature requests:
Add support for track options based on ID3 tags (Equalizer preset, Compilation, Remember position, Skip when shuffling, and Gapless album)
You would have to make up custom tag fields for these, since itunes seems to keep these only in the database and does not store them in ID3. Maybe you could do them like this:
IPOD_EQUALIZER, IPOD_COMPILATION, IPOD_REMEMBERPOS, IPOD_SHUFFLESKIP, IPOD_GAPLESS

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Reply #330 –
Would be really nice if you could open the source, I really want album art and I would really like to help;P
(I'm a second year CS major with some programming experience).

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Reply #331 –
Quote from: thegeek on
Would be really nice if you could open the source, I really want album art and I would really like to help;P
(I'm a second year CS major with some programming experience).


not tried it but you could upload your music to your ipod with foobar, then run winamps iPod plugin and update album art which in theory should add album art to all your music. Its not ideal (you may aswell just use the winamp plugin to upload your music, although it always crashes on me).

ps. i did cs at uni - man that was hard

Musicmatch: is it possible to add a "Eject iPod" to a future build?

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Reply #332 –
foo_dop is updated so fast! Glad to see that! 

just a little comment, could you add "select all" and "unselect all" on the playlist selection? I have tons of playlists, and I have to mark them about 50 times to select all of them ...

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Reply #333 –
Quote from: jonnysun on
foo_dop is updated so fast! Glad to see that! :P

just a little comment, could you add "select all" and "unselect all" on the playlist selection? I have tons of playlists, and I have to mark them about 50 times to select all of them ...

It looks like we want foo_dop to have every feature that was available with foo_pod.
In due time...
foo_dop is great so far, thanks Musicmusic and keep up the great work.

Inatightspot

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Reply #334 –
Quote from: alphaex32 on
Just added this to the feature requests:
Add support for track options based on ID3 tags (Equalizer preset, Compilation, Remember position, Skip when shuffling, and Gapless album)
You would have to make up custom tag fields for these, since itunes seems to keep these only in the database and does not store them in ID3. Maybe you could do them like this:
IPOD_EQUALIZER, IPOD_COMPILATION, IPOD_REMEMBERPOS, IPOD_SHUFFLESKIP, IPOD_GAPLESS
I don't really want to do those through metafields, but I will add some kind of way to edit them at some point.

Quote from: thegeek on
Would be really nice if you could open the source, I really want album art and I would really like to help;P
(I'm a second year CS major with some programming experience).
Ok I realise there is a lot of demand for album art  I do plan on adding support for it, but don't know when yet.

Quote from: 2Pacalypse on
Musicmatch: is it possible to add a "Eject iPod" to a future build?
Indeed, I plan to add that

Quote from: jonnysun on
just a little comment, could you add "select all" and "unselect all" on the playlist selection? I have tons of playlists, and I have to mark them about 50 times to select all of them ...
I did realise that was needed. But for test version I prefer to concentrate on (raw) functionality/internals, and leave polish/clean-up/etc to non-test versions. So maybe soon?

BTW if you note these requests in the wiki page (if they haven't been already) it may help remind of them in the future
.

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Reply #335 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
I don't really want to do those through metafields, but I will add some kind of way to edit them at some point.
I think basing these options on metadata would be a good way to do it though, because otherwise you would need to reset them anytime you take songs off the ipod and put them back on. For example, Im always swtiching around my ipod nano library, and it would be nice if I didnt have to set these options more than once. Doing it through tags would also allow us to set these options easily with scripts or with trackinfo buttons.

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Reply #336 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
BTW if you note these requests in the wiki page (if they haven't been already) it may help remind of them in the future


i was looking at the changelog a lot of the stuff in there has been done, they just need to be crossed off

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Reply #337 –
Quote from: 2Pacalypse on
Quote from: thegeek on

Would be really nice if you could open the source, I really want album art and I would really like to help;P
(I'm a second year CS major with some programming experience).


not tried it but you could upload your music to your ipod with foobar, then run winamps iPod plugin and update album art which in theory should add album art to all your music. Its not ideal (you may aswell just use the winamp plugin to upload your music, although it always crashes on me).

ps. i did cs at uni - man that was hard

Musicmatch: is it possible to add a "Eject iPod" to a future build?


I actually tried to use the winamp plugin, and it did transfer album art, however it crashed a _lot_.
In addition I could not get winamp to correctly recognize all my tags, perhaps it does not support ape or something, the result was that all my music would show up very badly organized;P
And yeah, cs is hard, all this math is killing me;P

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Reply #338 –
There are no dumb questions, right?  Ok, here is a possible dumb one.  With recent developments I'm anxious to try foo_dop out, but I have some possible concerns with the playlist feature.

I have a live version and a non live version of a track that share the common following tags
Artist: Foo
Title: Bar

However, the live version also has
Comment: Live

It sounds like if I upload two playlists, one with the live version and another with the non live version, I may not get the desired results based on the following text. 

"Files are matched to those on your iPod using metadata (ARTIST, TITLE and ALBUM fields). Therefore any track without metadata may be matched to the wrong track."

Is there a way around this with the currently existing features?  Is this what 'Metadata 'mapping' fields do' in tools->ipod manager?  Is the solution to put something like '%title%[ {%comment%}]' into Title mapping?

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Also, can anyone else point to success with the "SoundCheck adjustment" feature?  There were a few messages that said 'eh, didn't work' and one that said 'yup, worked after firmware upgrade'.  I like to boost all files to ~95db or so since my fm transmitter is so quiet.

-Michael

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Reply #339 –
Quote from: inatightspot on
Quote from: jonnysun on

foo_dop is updated so fast! Glad to see that! 

just a little comment, could you add "select all" and "unselect all" on the playlist selection? I have tons of playlists, and I have to mark them about 50 times to select all of them ...

It looks like we want foo_dop to have every feature that was available with foo_pod.
In due time...
foo_dop is great so far, thanks Musicmusic and keep up the great work.

Inatightspot


Actually, I've never used foo_pod before. Just something comes to my mine which will make foo_pod easier to use.

Keep it up!

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Reply #340 –
Hi musicmusic,

I have been watching this thread for a while now and regularly checking the changelog with my fingers crossed, hoping to see a line go through the first item on the request list, 'Add dynamic transcoding to support other formats like FLAC'.

I see this list is not in order of priority so i guess i have to ask again, how important is this feature to you? And my second question is what would it take to make it more important?

All of my tunes are either in Flac or some obscure codec (mpc) and i would dearly love to simplify sending files to my girlfriends Ipod using Foobar2000 V9.x.

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Reply #341 –
Quote from: alphaex32 on
I think basing these options on metadata would be a good way to do it though, because otherwise you would need to reset them anytime you take songs off the ipod and put them back on. For example, Im always swtiching around my ipod nano library, and it would be nice if I didnt have to set these options more than once. Doing it through tags would also allow us to set these options easily with scripts or with trackinfo buttons.
I see what you are saying. I would prefer the fields to be stored in an external database rather than the tags itself - but realistically that's not going to happen. Ideally I guess I'll add both tag-based and non tagged based methods.

Quote from: mdhare007 on
There are no dumb questions, right?  Ok, here is a possible dumb one.  With recent developments I'm anxious to try foo_dop out, but I have some possible concerns with the playlist feature.

I have a live version and a non live version of a track that share the common following tags
Artist: Foo
Title: Bar

However, the live version also has
Comment: Live

It sounds like if I upload two playlists, one with the live version and another with the non live version, I may not get the desired results based on the following text. 

"Files are matched to those on your iPod using metadata (ARTIST, TITLE and ALBUM fields). Therefore any track without metadata may be matched to the wrong track."

Is there a way around this with the currently existing features?  Is this what 'Metadata 'mapping' fields do' in tools->ipod manager?  Is the solution to put something like '%title%[ {%comment%}]' into Title mapping?
If the ARTIST, ALBUM and TITLE fields match exactly for those files, then yes they will get mixed up. This does not depend on field re-mappings. It also only affects the "Send playlists to iPod" and not the syncronise feature.

The reason behind this is to avoid duplicates if the file has been modified locally since this is not a sync operation (where the old version would get deleted from the iPod). I'm not sure changing the fields it uses is going to help so much - definitely I am not going to add COMMENT to the list. Does neither the TITLE nor ALBUM vary for your files?

Next version will store the source path on the iPod for files sent using foo_dop. This info could be used in future versions to seperate two matching files (if you don't move your files around).

Quote from: splint3r on
Hi musicmusic,

I have been watching this thread for a while now and regularly checking the changelog with my fingers crossed, hoping to see a line go through the first item on the request list, 'Add dynamic transcoding to support other formats like FLAC'.

I see this list is not in order of priority so i guess i have to ask again, how important is this feature to you? And my second question is what would it take to make it more important?

All of my tunes are either in Flac or some obscure codec (mpc) and i would dearly love to simplify sending files to my girlfriends Ipod using Foobar2000 V9.x.

It is somewhat important to me (I have tracks in MPC, OGG Vorbis, WavPack, WMA, ... too) but there are lots of issues surrounding it:
-tracking the files properly for sync. This can be solved my storing necessary data in foo_dop's db it will store in iPod from next version
-the actual conversion. There is no convertor API or source - so I would have to rewrite large chunks of it for a decent level of functionality.

I will most likely work on it at some point. But its quite complicated.
.

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Reply #342 –
musicmusic said:
If the ARTIST, ALBUM and TITLE fields match exactly for those files, then yes they will get mixed up. This does not depend on field re-mappings. It also only affects the "Send playlists to iPod" and not the syncronise feature.  The reason behind this is to avoid duplicates if the file has been modified locally since this is not a sync operation (where the old version would get deleted from the iPod). I'm not sure changing the fields it uses is going to help so much - definitely I am not going to add COMMENT to the list. Does neither the TITLE nor ALBUM vary for your files?

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Lets say I have two versions of the same song, one live off the radio and one not.  So that I can do queries like "show me all versions of song X" based on the title field, I've been putting tags like 'live, fm radio' in the 'comment' field.  I have not been storing this information in the 'album' field because when I sort by albums, I do not want to have a bunch of tiny albums listed that only have a single song or two. 

It seemed to have done the right thing when I sync'd but I didn't yet listen to the 'live' playlist that I uploaded.

It might be nice to have a debug window option so that you can get more details on what foo_pod is doing.  For example, when I sync playlists, sometimes foo_pod copies files over (probably because of the tag matching problem).  It would be neat to see what it copied.

Thanks for all your efforts.  Even though it's still a little rough in spots, I've finally been able to ditch Itunes and use replaygain to drive Soundcheck.  It worked great on the fm dock!

-Michael

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Reply #343 –
Quote from: splint3r on
Hi musicmusic,

I have been watching this thread for a while now and regularly checking the changelog with my fingers crossed, hoping to see a line go through the first item on the request list, 'Add dynamic transcoding to support other formats like FLAC'.

I see this list is not in order of priority so i guess i have to ask again, how important is this feature to you? And my second question is what would it take to make it more important?

All of my tunes are either in Flac or some obscure codec (mpc) and i would dearly love to simplify sending files to my girlfriends Ipod using Foobar2000 V9.x.


I'd like to chime in and say that this would be a HUGE feature for me.  90% of my music is .flac (the other bit being .ape that I haven't converted yet) and I have been waiting a long time for a way to transcode the .flac files to .mp3 on the fly when I move them over to my Ipod.

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Reply #344 –
Hi! I just want to ask if it is possible to add iPod Shuffle support too.

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Reply #345 –
now i'm getting ahead of myself as this would be a very low priority, just wondering whether in the distance future you have thought about uploading videos to the ipod? i love that it retrieves them when you load the library (can then use a foo_run script to play them), but if you could also upload them, then i could finally uninstall iTunes!

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Reply #346 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
-the actual conversion. There is no convertor API or source - so I would have to rewrite large chunks of it for a decent level of functionality.

I will most likely work on it at some point. But its quite complicated.


read this about foo_sendtodevice :

.......Non mp3 files can be converted on the fly with new feature (beta stages)

cwbowron may share the code, would be a time saver for transcoding

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Reply #347 –
Version 0.3.6 TEST released

It adds a simple transcoder (some more info in wiki, its quite experimental) for unsupported filetypes. It should be configured via prefs first. E.g.

LAME: lame - %d
Nero: neroAacEnc -if - -of %d

where lame.exe, neroAacEnc.exe are on the path.

It would be good to test it with some different encoders and also different filetypes as input.
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Reply #348 –
Hi musicmusic,

I just transcoded one FLAC file to Nero AAC and it worked flawlessly. Very Cool! I tried to transcode one track from a FLAC image file with an embedded cuesheet, but foo_dop didn't like that at all. Though, as this was your first pass with transcoding, I was expecting that it might not work.

Damn, you do fine work! :-) and Thank You.
Surf's Up!
"Columnated Ruins Domino"

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Reply #349 –
Quote from: mdhare007 on
Lets say I have two versions of the same song, one live off the radio and one not.  So that I can do queries like "show me all versions of song X" based on the title field, I've been putting tags like 'live, fm radio' in the 'comment' field.  I have not been storing this information in the 'album' field because when I sort by albums, I do not want to have a bunch of tiny albums listed that only have a single song or two.
I will improve the matching algorithm so it detects multiple matches and does something to try and pick the right one.

Quote from: Galova on
Hi! I just want to ask if it is possible to add iPod Shuffle support too.
Possible: yes. Planned: not right now.

Quote from: 2Pacalypse on
now i'm getting ahead of myself as this would be a very low priority, just wondering whether in the distance future you have thought about uploading videos to the ipod? i love that it retrieves them when you load the library (can then use a foo_run script to play them), but if you could also upload them, then i could finally uninstall iTunes!
Yes I thought about it. It would probably have to be done by tagging videos as such (and also their type, e.g music video, film, tv show, ...). But it is planned.

Quote from: drbeachboy on
Hi musicmusic,

I just transcoded one FLAC file to Nero AAC and it worked flawlessly. Very Cool! I tried to transcode one track from a FLAC image file with an embedded cuesheet, but foo_dop didn't like that at all. Though, as this was your first pass with transcoding, I was expecting that it might not work.

Damn, you do fine work! :-) and Thank You.
Thanks for testing

Yes, chapters not supported mainly because its difficult to support them for filetypes that are natively supported by the iPod. But in your case - filetype not supported by iPod - it should be fairly straightforward to make it transcode them to separate files. Right now I think it would try and convert the first track and complain about the rest.

Other thing still to be implemented is replaygain/soundcheck scanning for converted files. Although you can do it manually.
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