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Reply #275 –
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Quote from: Kamil on
is it possible, with foo_dop or another plugin to set the soundcheck value to the replaygain value without having an ipod connected? Since the Information is stored in the file's metadata I don't see any reason why this feature is only available by copying the files to the ipod.

musicmusic, any comments on this?


I'm pretty sure foo_dop doesn't write any tags at all, so I don't think it can do what you want.  It just updates the Ipod's database.  If you want soundcheck values written out to the ID3v2 tag, you'd probably need to update the ID3v2 writer.

Quote from: Prodoc on
Also, currently you store the sound check values in the db on the iPod. What will happen to these values if you open up iTunes afterwards and perform the necessary synchronisations? I assume you'd have to have Sound Check enabled in iTunes to keep the info? If this is the case, won't iTunes start analysing all the files by itself since the info won't be present in the tags yet?


I don't think iTunes will delete information out of the Ipod's database, but I haven't tried it.  However, it would take maybe 2 minutes for you to load itunes and try it, so I suggest you do that.  Worst case, you can tell foo_dop to delete and rewrite the Ipod database.

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Reply #276 –
Quote from: Mike Giacomelli on
Quote from: Prodoc on

Quote from: Kamil on
is it possible, with foo_dop or another plugin to set the soundcheck value to the replaygain value without having an ipod connected? Since the Information is stored in the file's metadata I don't see any reason why this feature is only available by copying the files to the ipod.

musicmusic, any comments on this?


I'm pretty sure foo_dop doesn't write any tags at all, so I don't think it can do what you want.  It just updates the Ipod's database.  If you want soundcheck values written out to the ID3v2 tag, you'd probably need to update the ID3v2 writer.

I know it can't write tags at the moment but will it in the future?

Quote from: Mike Giacomelli on
Quote from: Prodoc on

Also, currently you store the sound check values in the db on the iPod. What will happen to these values if you open up iTunes afterwards and perform the necessary synchronisations? I assume you'd have to have Sound Check enabled in iTunes to keep the info? If this is the case, won't iTunes start analysing all the files by itself since the info won't be present in the tags yet?


I don't think iTunes will delete information out of the Ipod's database, but I haven't tried it.  However, it would take maybe 2 minutes for you to load itunes and try it, so I suggest you do that.  Worst case, you can tell foo_dop to delete and rewrite the Ipod database.

No, worst case, I'll loose everything on my iPod. Because of that I'd like to know what will happen before I try it.

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Reply #277 –
Quote from: Prodoc on
Quote from: Mike Giacomelli on

Quote from: Prodoc on

Quote from: Kamil on
is it possible, with foo_dop or another plugin to set the soundcheck value to the replaygain value without having an ipod connected? Since the Information is stored in the file's metadata I don't see any reason why this feature is only available by copying the files to the ipod.

musicmusic, any comments on this?


I'm pretty sure foo_dop doesn't write any tags at all, so I don't think it can do what you want.  It just updates the Ipod's database.  If you want soundcheck values written out to the ID3v2 tag, you'd probably need to update the ID3v2 writer.

I know it can't write tags at the moment but will it in the future?


foo_dop?  No, the ID3v2 tag writer does that.  Talk to peter about updating it in future foobar releases.  I don't even think plugins are allowed to write ID3 tags, even if a developer wanted to.

Quote from: Prodoc on
Quote from: Mike Giacomelli on

Quote from: Prodoc on

Also, currently you store the sound check values in the db on the iPod. What will happen to these values if you open up iTunes afterwards and perform the necessary synchronisations? I assume you'd have to have Sound Check enabled in iTunes to keep the info? If this is the case, won't iTunes start analysing all the files by itself since the info won't be present in the tags yet?


I don't think iTunes will delete information out of the Ipod's database, but I haven't tried it.  However, it would take maybe 2 minutes for you to load itunes and try it, so I suggest you do that.  Worst case, you can tell foo_dop to delete and rewrite the Ipod database.

No, worst case, I'll loose everything on my iPod. Because of that I'd like to know what will happen before I try it.


I'd say the worst case is that your Ipod explodes and kills you.  If you mean the worst case thats remotely likely to happen, I'd say that would be that your database gets corrupted.  In which case, you rewrite it with foo_dop, which takes about 1 minute to do.

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Reply #278 –
Quote from: Prodoc on
Also, currently you store the sound check values in the db on the iPod. What will happen to these values if you open up iTunes afterwards and perform the necessary synchronisations? I assume you'd have to have Sound Check enabled in iTunes to keep the info? If this is the case, won't iTunes start analysing all the files by itself since the info won't be present in the tags yet?
It seems to leave the Soundcheck data intact in the database after it decides to rewrite it (which is randomly). Other data (metadata etc.) does get replaced with iTunes-read versions though. I don't have Soundcheck enabled in iTunes however.

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Quote from: Kamil on
is it possible, with foo_dop or another plugin to set the soundcheck value to the replaygain value without having an ipod connected? Since the Information is stored in the file's metadata I don't see any reason why this feature is only available by copying the files to the ipod.

musicmusic, any comments on this?


I'm pretty sure foo_dop doesn't write any tags at all, so I don't think it can do what you want.  It just updates the Ipod's database.  If you want soundcheck values written out to the ID3v2 tag, you'd probably need to update the ID3v2 writer.

I know it can't write tags at the moment but will it in the future?

I don't think its possible to make foobar2000 write the souncheck info to MP3 and probably MP4 files in a way iTunes will understand it, even if I wanted to.
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Reply #279 –
musicmusic, do you have any plans on function to make playlist on ipod and assign the music files to it?

Thanks for the great plugin!

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Reply #280 –
does any1 else get the pop up saying

"there is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive \Device\Harddisk4\DR8

XP
4th gen ipod 40gb

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Reply #281 –
Hi and thanks for the plugin, but 2 questions?
Why on the version 3.0 there are not the "umount" and "mount" as the version 2.9?
Why foo_dop allow duplicate files to be copied to the iPod?

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Reply #282 –
Quote from: jumpman on
Hi and thanks for the plugin, but 2 questions?
Why on the version 3.0 there are not the "umount" and "mount" as the version 2.9?

They didn't work properly, and were redundant as windows already offers this functionality.
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Why foo_dop allow duplicate files to be copied to the iPod?


How is it supposed to know they're duplicate without comparing them bit by bit with every other song on the ipod?

You can use 'Find on iPod', or 'Check if up-to-date on iPod' before sending files

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Reply #283 –
5.5g iPod 80Gb, everything works fine, looking forward for playlist managing feature
Sharing delusions since 1991.

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Reply #284 –
Works fine on my 2nd generation iPod Shuffle... However I would like to be able to see the files on the iPod, but purely for transferring the files onto it it seems fine.

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Reply #285 –
Quote from: iElectric on
musicmusic, do you have any plans on function to make playlist on ipod and assign the music files to it?

Thanks for the great plugin!
Hopefully


Quote from: 2Pacalypse on
does any1 else get the pop up saying

"there is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive \Device\Harddisk4\DR8

XP
4th gen ipod 40gb
Strange, I haven't seen that. Do you know what kind of drive it is referring to - I think it would be the same as drive #4 from My Computer context menu / Manage / Disk Management.

I'll look into fixing it, I would guess it is caused by the iTunesDB file existance check. But I have card readers etc. and it doesn't trigger; neither did it when it used to scan the floppy drive. Maybe some non-standard system setting somewhere?

Quote from: jumpman on
Hi and thanks for the plugin, but 2 questions?
Why on the version 3.0 there are not the "umount" and "mount" as the version 2.9?
They stopped working with iTunes 7, not that they worked reliably before that. Main problem was the use of undocumented iPodService interfaces which unsurprisingly didn't work very well. I will add the standard eject command instead.

Quote from: jumpman on
Why foo_dop allow duplicate files to be copied to the iPod?
Because it doesn't check if the song already exists on your iPod yet?

Quote from: sizetwo on
Works fine on my 2nd generation iPod Shuffle...
Ok. But I don't know anything about what database format it uses so "its not supported", unless you can find out for me (iTunesDB, iTunesSD, ...).

Quote from: sizetwo on
However I would like to be able to see the files on the iPod, but purely for transferring the files onto it it seems fine.
I don't quite understand this one 

If you want to see what songs are on the iPod does "Load library" not work? If not I would guess it must be using iTunesSD or something which foo_dop doesn't use.
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Reply #287 –
What a nice component for Foobar addictor! I can't wait to see its development.

I have some suggestion here

1.  Playlist can transform from/to iPOD
2.  rating (like %rating%), play count (like %play_count%) can be active to both sides.
3.  support same file recognition
4.  Avoid ACII format filename, whether use unicode or change to some english filename like iPOD. ( I am not so sure about that)

Hope this can give you some good ideas.

My hope is to see a seperate idop panel pop out when foobar and ipod is connected, including playlists and songs on ipod. and show everything we need need there    That is very difficult I know. Keep going 

I LOVE THIS PLUG IN!

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Reply #288 –
anyone got this working with a 5.5gen 80gb video ipod?

it used to work on my old 1, cant remember the error msg, i'm at work at the mo

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Reply #289 –
Installed the latest version from the link - can't find my mini (Running X86 Vista)

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Reply #290 –
Quote from: mazzarin01 on
Installed the latest version from the link - can't find my mini (Running X86 Vista)

Try new version 0.3.1

I don't know why, but they changed the volume's removal policy from CM_REMOVAL_POLICY_EXPECT_SURPRISE_REMOVAL to CM_REMOVAL_POLICY_EXPECT_NO_REMOVAL, but added CM_DEVCAP_SURPRISEREMOVALOK to its capabilities 
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Reply #291 –
It's now working with my Nano and Vista!
Thanks
 

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Reply #292 –
Any luck with other requests ?
"Ability to re-map common fields (artist, album, title, etc.) like in foo_pod"
video load?

sorry to hassle. pretty orphaned out there now with foo_pod

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Reply #293 –
Vista works again! Thanks

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Reply #294 –
Quote from: clunesy on
Any luck with other requests ?
"Ability to re-map common fields (artist, album, title, etc.) like in foo_pod"
video load?

sorry to hassle. pretty orphaned out there now with foo_pod

I just released version 0.3.2 TEST which has configurable mappings for the ARTIST, TITLE and ALBUM fields. Use titleformatting in these preferences; leave them blank to disable that particular remapping. Use the "reload ipod library metadata" to apply it to existing songs.

Are there any other particular fields you think need remappings available?
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Reply #295 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
I just released version 0.3.2 TEST which has configurable mappings for the ARTIST, TITLE and ALBUM fields. Use titleformatting in these preferences; leave them blank to disable that particular remapping. Use the "reload ipod library metadata" to apply it to existing songs.

Are there any other particular fields you think need remappings available?

GENRE, please.  And also perhaps "ALBUM ARTIST"

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Reply #296 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
Quote from: clunesy on

Any luck with other requests ?
"Ability to re-map common fields (artist, album, title, etc.) like in foo_pod"
video load?

sorry to hassle. pretty orphaned out there now with foo_pod

I just released version 0.3.2 TEST which has configurable mappings for the ARTIST, TITLE and ALBUM fields. Use titleformatting in these preferences; leave them blank to disable that particular remapping. Use the "reload ipod library metadata" to apply it to existing songs.

Are there any other particular fields you think need remappings available?
Thank you very much for adding this. I could think of genre en composer to add.

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Reply #297 –
Quote from: sizetwo on
Works fine on my 2nd generation iPod Shuffle... However I would like to be able to see the files on the iPod, but purely for transferring the files onto it it seems fine.

works fine? NICE TRY.

from http://yuo.be/ipod.php
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Simple iPod management component which allows you to manage the songs on your Apple iPod (excluding iPod Shuffle) without the use of iTunes. Requires foobar2000 0.9.4+.


maybe now it works....because last time it sent useless files to my shuffle, even though it DID send the files the shuffle did not recognize it as music and blinked orange green orange green orange green orange green.....etc...

actually.. let me try it right NOW with the latest build....

yeap.... still doesn't work... the files show up in "Load Library" and i can see physical space used (no longer 1GB free).... BUT the shuffle doesn't play anything... whatever was uploaded is useless

sadly, inferior programs like itunes and winamp work flawlessly with MP3s and the 2G shuffle
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Reply #298 –
I would like to remind all of us here that as great as it would be if this product did everything we all want RIGHT NOW; the fact is musicmusic is donating time and effort to this project...sarcasm (if intentional) and rudeness (if intentional) is discouraging and ridiculously unnecessary. in the future i recommend gratitude and constructive feedback as alternatives.

musicmusic, thanks for all your time and effort and i eagerly await the coming features of this plug in.

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Reply #299 –
i know that... and my post lets him know what doesn't work (sizetwo's post makes musicmusic think that it's working with the 2G shuffle, when in fact it DOESN'T, which will prompt him to have a second look)
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