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Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Gambit on 2005-04-18 03:46:03
I wanted to have more changes in this version, but I've been busy with other things. And I couldn't/didn't want to wait any longer, so here it is. If nothing else, the annoying P4 bugfix is a good reason for the release.

    Changes from 1.12:
  - fixed problems running on fast P4 machines
  - added an "Add" button
  - fixed some bugs (sorry I can't remember, it's been too long )
  - donations are now accepted

http://www.burrrn.net/ (http://www.burrrn.net/)
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Zoom on 2005-04-18 04:00:15
Thanks for all the work on this excellent burning program! And since you are now accepting donations, I'm gonna send something your way 

EDIT: I did have one question about the program. How does it parse the incoming filename for CD-TEXT use? Is it "artist - title"?
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Digga on 2005-04-18 05:51:43
great, thanks! your work is much appreciated 

btw, the website still says 1.12
didn't refresh.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: VCSkier on 2005-04-18 07:40:54
awsome.  thanks gambit.  its a great program.  just a minor feature request for the future, how about supporting embedded cue sheets?  and what about offset correction?  regardless, thanks a million.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: VCSkier on 2005-04-18 13:38:35
why isn't this thread made an announcement on the slpash page?
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Florian on 2005-04-18 16:33:52
Thanks Gambit!

Although I only burn audio cds from time to time, I like Burrrn's clear and intuitive interface!
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: mhudson7 on 2005-04-19 02:05:38
Thanks Gambit - my all time favorite freeware!! 

Donation is on the way...
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: JeanLuc on 2005-04-19 16:20:33
I must be some kind of moron ...

even clearing the browser cache, the cookies and refreshing the website does not show 1.13 but 1.12 ...

can somebody post a direct link to 1.13 ?
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: jaybeee on 2005-04-19 16:26:16
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I must be some kind of moron ...

even clearing the browser cache, the cookies and refreshing the website does not show 1.13 but 1.12 ...

can somebody post a direct link to 1.13 ?
[{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=291880")

[a href="http://www.burrrn.net/burrrn_package.exe]http://www.burrrn.net/burrrn_package.exe[/url]
and
http://www.burrrn.net/burrrn_exe.zip (http://www.burrrn.net/burrrn_exe.zip)
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: JeanLuc on 2005-04-19 16:33:18
Thanks, but these two links just point me to 1.12 download (as burrrn info and the changes.txt file states after installing) ...
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: jaybeee on 2005-04-19 16:35:58
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Thanks, but these two links just point me to 1.12 download (as burrrn info and the changes.txt file states after installing) ...
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=291887"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

  then Gambit must've replaced the files for some reason.  I don't think they ever had '1.13' in the file names (not the for the stable releases anyway).
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Digga on 2005-04-19 16:44:09
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Thanks, but these two links just point me to 1.12 download (as burrrn info and the changes.txt file states after installing) ...
that's really strange... I can confirm however that the files are indeed 1.13.
if you want, I can send them your way.
maybe some ISP or router issue?

[span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%']edit: removed cache comment[/span]
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: MJT on 2005-04-19 16:46:34
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Thanks, but these two links just point me to 1.12 download (as burrrn info and the changes.txt file states after installing) ...
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=291887"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]



You must be hitting some kind of cache. Maybe you'r ISP's? Anyho, check your PM for an alternate URL.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Gambit on 2005-04-19 23:18:20
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EDIT: I did have one question about the program. How does it parse the incoming filename for CD-TEXT use? Is it "artist - title"?
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=291494"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Yes, it was just a simple workaround for wav files because they don't have tags. I want to make it configurable in the future.

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awsome.  thanks gambit.  its a great program.  just a minor feature request for the future, how about supporting embedded cue sheets?  and what about offset correction?  regardless, thanks a million.
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Offset correction will definitely be added. I'm not a fan of embedded cue sheets, but people seem to use them so I guess I will have to add support for them eventually.

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even clearing the browser cache, the cookies and refreshing the website does not show 1.13 but 1.12 ...
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=291880"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


You must be still connecting to the old server. I paid for it till the end of april, so it's still online with the old files.

And thanks to everybody for the donations. It feels great to be recognized for all the work. I'm flattered. 
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: muntai on 2005-04-23 16:53:56
Great to see Burrrn is still alive :) Thx Gambit!!

Minor feature request:
-Burrrn can't handle subindexes > INDEX 01

for example Burrrn can't handle this :
FILE "02 - Funky Tonk.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Funky Tonk"
    PERFORMER "Miles Davis"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
    INDEX 02 06:17:25
    INDEX 03 07:36:00
    INDEX 04 08:26:50

subindexes 02 to 04 disappear when burning with Burrrn, while all is fine when burning with EAC.

Handling of subindexes is the only feature I need to make the def. switch :) (fortunately my LG drive doesn't need write offset, but it would be great to see it implemented so I can spread the word even louder about this great program :)

Thanks again Gambit!
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: dreamliner77 on 2005-04-23 17:01:12
Gambit,

Does 1.13 allow for 48kHz input files?
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Gambit on 2005-04-24 17:37:13
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Minor feature request:
-Burrrn can't handle subindexes > INDEX 01
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=292898"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Yeah, you're right. I will add that in the next version.

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Does 1.13 allow for 48kHz input files?
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=292899"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


And that too.  I'm finally starting the long planned rewrite this week, so I can properly implement some 1337 features like offset corrected writing, resampling, splitting on 588 samples etc.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Digga on 2005-04-24 17:49:35
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(...) I'm finally starting the long planned rewrite this week, so I can properly implement some 1337 features like offset corrected writing, resampling, splitting on 588 samples etc.
YAY! looking forward to this 
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: dreamliner77 on 2005-04-24 18:09:10
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Minor feature request:
-Burrrn can't handle subindexes > INDEX 01
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=292898"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Yeah, you're right. I will add that in the next version.

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Does 1.13 allow for 48kHz input files?
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=292899"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


And that too.  I'm finally starting the long planned rewrite this week, so I can properly implement some 1337 features like offset corrected writing, resampling, splitting on 588 samples etc.
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=293076"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]



You're just way too good to us.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: muntai on 2005-04-25 03:20:25
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Minor feature request:
-Burrrn can't handle subindexes > INDEX 01
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=292898"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Yeah, you're right. I will add that in the next version.

I'm finally starting the long planned rewrite this week, so I can properly implement some 1337 features like offset corrected writing, resampling, splitting on 588 samples etc.
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=293076"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Great!!
and SBE handling is such good news! I wasn't expecting it... Burrrn ya'll !!
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: servil on 2005-04-25 10:05:26
does Burrrn support on the fly decoding and all cd-text features?
and can it process the non-compliant cue sheets (gaps at end) from EAC?
thanks
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: servil on 2005-04-25 12:46:35
Great ! So what about adding a custom artist for VA records, and direct gap editing?

The Cue editor doesnot work for me.
I would like to see there more record & track metadata like ISRC, catalog number.
Cut off non-ascii characters from CD-Text !
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Dofin on 2005-05-07 22:33:48
Hi Gambit ! I get a PX-716A and was unable to use cue sheets with EAC or Nero. I could have bought Plextools XL but the cost is prohibitive in Canada with the money exchange.
Someone on a Forum at EAC suggests your Burrrn as a way to succeed in burning cue. I tried it and it is terrific: it works perfectly well and I am just at the beginning of the discoveries. I am sure I will find more and more interesting features.
So, I've just sent a donation via Paypal. Considering our low value money compared to Euro, I hope it will be OK.
Thank you very much.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: shawn.e on 2005-05-08 04:15:11
Wow, amazing free tool! Unfortunately I am missing the on-the-fly decoding and burning of .cue and compressed files like in Easy CD-DA Extractor, which is worth to check out too. (Unfortunately the Ezcd is not free...
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Mr_Rabid_Teddybear on 2005-05-30 05:17:51
Have you considered dropping of directories? Could be a nice feature being able to drag & drop directories if it isn't too hard to implement....
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: tcgabor on 2005-06-27 14:52:39
Hello Gambit!

Just a minor remark! I'm very picky about the media I use, so most of the time I use Taiyo Yuden coated discs, or Black Memorex or Black Traxdata (all have different coats) and one thing... I don't really know how many things add up to a cd sounding as it does (I guess everything...) but I experinced VERY GOOD SOUNDING results with ordinary Memorex (CMC Magnetics) media even with 2nd copies (the disc was copied from a copy) borderig on the sound quality of EAC burns, if not even better at times. Congratulations! I guess not too many people have achieved such results. Keep up the good work! One more thing: Does it make a difference if use SPTI or ASPI under Win2k or XP? Still: I don't really know much about the replaygain functions so I prefer to leave  all the fields blank. I have just burnt a cd and realized that Dither was turned (by default - with medium noise shaping) on in ReplayGain functions. I burned cds with it turned on before now I have switched it off. Is it something worthy of note? - Sorry, maybe stupid question, or I should have read the posts or the documentation... CUESheet editor is great, too.

Thanks

Gabor

U.i.: If all the goodies you've talked about will be included in the next version...Man, it will beat every audio cd burning software out there - possibly not EAC, but anyway....
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Digga on 2005-06-27 15:21:57
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I'm very picky about the media I use, so most of the time I use Taiyo Yuden coated discs, or Black Memorex or Black Traxdata (all have different coats) and one thing... I don't really know how many things add up to a cd sounding as it does (I guess everything...) but I experinced VERY GOOD SOUNDING results with ordinary Memorex (CMC Magnetics) media even with 2nd copies (the disc was copied from a copy) borderig on the sound quality of EAC burns, if not even better at times
*scratching the disk with a sharp knive on the outer region has produced the best sound for me so far. the sound is more crispy and the slight crackling adds up to your listening pleasure. be carefull to only do this during full moon though, otherwise the disk will sound worse.*
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I don't really know much about the replaygain functions so I prefer to leave all the fields blank. I have just burnt a cd and realized that Dither was turned (by default - with medium noise shaping) on in ReplayGain functions. I burned cds with it turned on before now I have switched it off. Is it something worthy of note? - Sorry, maybe stupid question, or I should have read the posts or the documentation
http://replaygain.org/ (http://replaygain.org/)
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: dreamliner77 on 2005-06-27 15:26:59
I still like to throw my discs in the dishwasher. 
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: tcgabor on 2005-06-27 15:56:19
No offence Digga, dreamliner77, but I have been through conversations like this and have no intention to continue them here, so would you mind stopping being ironic and sarcastic. It's not what I think of good recorded sound that matters but what I wanted to say about this proggie, my experince, regardless of what you think of so-called audiophile loonies, believe me, I'm not one of them, just wanted to say that whatever your recording needs you should be picky of the media you use, too.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Digga on 2005-06-27 16:03:26
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No offence Digga, dreamliner77, but I have been through conversations like this and have no intention to continue them here, so would you mind stopping being ironic and sarcastic. It's not what I think of good recorded sound that matters but what I wanted to say about this proggie, my experince, regardless of what you think of so-called audiophile loonies, believe me, I'm not one of them, just wanted to say that whatever your recording needs you should be picky of the media you use, too.
well, if you post something it's only natural that others will comment on it    anyway, no offence meant here either.
it seems that we agree on media beeing important. but I can only see that it is important in terms of durability and life (i.e. how soon the disk is going to die if handled well). I never noticed a difference in soundquality with the brands I use and I find it highly unlikely for others to notice such things appart from placebo.
and besides have a look at the TOS (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3974#entry149481) sometimes.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: tcgabor on 2005-06-27 19:42:23
Thanks for pointing out these principles (TOS) to me to 'separate fact from fiction' :-)
However, I seriously think there is a very big difference between non-sense audiophile concerns and audible differences in sound (which I do believe exist!)...otherwise I think the guidelines are just fine and you have a point there...

Cheers
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: jaybeee on 2005-06-27 20:07:38
If you could do some listening tests with different types of blank CDs and upload your results for all to see we'd be most grateful.  If you actually hear a diff between different CDRs then that would be useful for all to know.  However, I would be very surprised if you'll hear a difference.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: tcgabor on 2005-06-27 20:08:37
Anyway, still not sure about replaygain. If the only thing it does is to equalize track volumes (compared to each other if I get it right, not within the track itself), which I usually avoid then thanks, it's not for me! If it does something else, what then? Is it used primarily for mp3 replay (playback after encoding), or is it more complex than that? Help me with that, please!

Thanks in advance
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: tcgabor on 2005-06-27 20:27:17
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If you could do some listening tests with different types of blank CDs and upload your results for all to see we'd be most grateful.  If you actually hear a diff between different CDRs then that would be useful for all to know.  However, I would be very surprised if you'll hear a difference.
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=309298"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

Sorry pal, I don't really know what you mean, besides I'm not very good at stuff like that (analysing results and posting them). So, how can I post my results if what you hear can be utterly subjective, nobody can doubt that. And if I write down what I heard while listening to different kinds of media would provoke nothing but loud laughter from your part to say the least. It needs some explanation: I think and believe that what you actually hear is not what you measure with different test programs. That is why posting something that cannot be justified only experinced on a highly subjective basis is not what would seem a good enough evidence. What you mean maybe is to post my measured results which guarantee nothing about what you hear only what can be measured.  For the sake of avoiding subjective off-the-forum-principles posts, I suggest that we take my note about choosing media and all a side-track which has nothing to do with the basic inspiration for my posting. If, however, I still have questions about Burrrn, I will continue to ask them here.

G
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Madrigal on 2005-06-27 21:20:22
Just to go public with something I contacted Gambit about by e-mail, I will stop using Nero for audio burning and switch to Burrrn, just as soon as Burrn can handle the adjustment and/or elimination of the gap between tracks.

At that point I would also seriously consider donating.

Regards,
Madrigal
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: jaybeee on 2005-06-27 21:50:32
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Sorry pal, I don't really know what you mean, besides I'm not very good at stuff like that (analysing results and posting them). So, how can I post my results if what you hear can be utterly subjective, nobody can doubt that. And if I write down what I heard while listening to different kinds of media would provoke nothing but loud laughter from your part to say the least. It needs some explanation: I think and believe that what you actually hear is not what you measure with different test programs. That is why posting something that cannot be justified only experinced on a highly subjective basis is not what would seem a good enough evidence. What you mean maybe is to post my measured results which guarantee nothing about what you hear only what can be measured.  For the sake of avoiding subjective off-the-forum-principles posts, I suggest that we take my note about choosing media and all a side-track which has nothing to do with the basic inspiration for my posting. If, however, I still have questions about Burrrn, I will continue to ask them here.

G
[{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=309309")

Ok pal.

Read these:
[a href="http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16295]What is an audio blind test?[/url]
and
ABX defined via HA.org wiki (http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=ABX)

I certainly do not want this thread to go off it's topic any more than it has, so I will not post any more about ABX etc here.  If you have any other questions / concerns etc about testing of audio post a new thread and I'm sure the HA.org community will be more than willing to help.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Triza on 2005-06-27 22:42:22
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If you could do some listening tests with different types of blank CDs and upload your results for all to see we'd be most grateful.  If you actually hear a diff between different CDRs then that would be useful for all to know.  However, I would be very surprised if you'll hear a difference.
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=309298"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

Sorry pal, I don't really know what you mean, besides I'm not very good at stuff like that (analysing results and posting them). So, how can I post my results if what you hear can be utterly subjective, nobody can doubt that. And if I write down what I heard while listening to different kinds of media would provoke nothing but loud laughter from your part to say the least. It needs some explanation: I think and believe that what you actually hear is not what you measure with different test programs. That is why posting something that cannot be justified only experinced on a highly subjective basis is not what would seem a good enough evidence. What you mean maybe is to post my measured results which guarantee nothing about what you hear only what can be measured.  For the sake of avoiding subjective off-the-forum-principles posts, I suggest that we take my note about choosing media and all a side-track which has nothing to do with the basic inspiration for my posting. If, however, I still have questions about Burrrn, I will continue to ask them here.

G
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=309309"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Gabor,

Good conclusion. Imagine that everybody would post untestable nonsense. This would turn this site as useless as any other hifi sites, which are full of bull***t and useless statements. This is why this site is different. If you cannot back up your claims, which are indeed laughable because if I rip those CD-s they become bit identical, then you probably want to keep quiet about them.

Triza
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: tcgabor on 2005-06-28 08:04:30
Hey!

jaybee thanks for the support and the links I haven't read them yet but they may provide very useful. Triza, I completely agree with your point, although I myself know a couple of guys who are like this. I don't like it when they are offensive about what they think is obvious. You have to experince things for yourself. That's the big idea - for me at least!

G
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: tcgabor on 2005-06-28 08:07:44
Madrigal, I have had no problems with gaps using Burrrn, as one of the guys pointed it out in the forum the program doesn't append 2-second gaps even when not burning from a cue-sheet.
Hav you produced cds with gaps on them using Burrrn?

G
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: atramhasis on 2005-06-28 18:20:24
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Just wanted to let you know that write offset corrected writing will be available in the next version
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What about this function? Is it implemented? I can't find an option for it in burrrn 1.13.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Gambit on 2005-06-28 18:39:12
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Just wanted to let you know that write offset corrected writing will be available in the next version
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=223432"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


What about this function? Is it implemented? I can't find an option for it in burrrn 1.13.
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=309548"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

Holy thread resurrection Batman! I have moved your post to this thread, no need to bump a one year old topic.

Anyway, as I explained in my posts, that function had to be postponed. It will be in the next version, but don’t ask me when that will be. My brain is not working in this damn hot weather.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Madrigal on 2005-06-29 02:46:38
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Madrigal, I have had no problems with gaps using Burrrn, as one of the guys pointed it out in the forum the program doesn't append 2-second gaps even when not burning from a cue-sheet.
Hav you produced cds with gaps on them using Burrrn?

Thank you VERY much for posting this !

No, I have not produced CD's with gaps using Burrrn. I had been so used to Nero's 2-second gap as the default, that it never even occurred to me that Burrrn's default mode might be no gap, and for some reason I had never actually checked to find out.

But you are right. Today I checked a CD I recently made for my wife using Burrrn, and indeed there are no gaps between the tracks.

This opens up several new possibilities for me, and once again I thank you for posting.

Regards,
Madrigal
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Gambit on 2005-06-29 02:51:55
Meh, this just shows that I really need to write a proper documentation or FAQ.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Digga on 2005-06-29 04:27:01
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Meh, this just shows that I really need to write a proper documentation or FAQ.
if you want me to, I would gladly volunteer to start writeing a basic FAQ which covers some questions I could think of.
to make the pretty little pagessss even more precioussss 
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Digga on 2005-06-29 05:23:17
hrmpf, it's 5:45 in the moring and I'm drunk and what else not listening to DeadRinger...
so before getting some sleep I might aswell present my (very basic) atempts here now 

FAQ

Q: do I have to mess with any of the settings prior to using Burrrn?
A: most of the settings are fine out of the box for most users. the options should be pretty much forward and uderstabdable.

Q: what is this ReplayGain stuff I see there?
A: in short ReplayGain is a method to make individual songs sound equally loud (trackgain) or tracks on an album get closer to a choosen value (albumgain). the default value is 89dB. for further question see http://replaygain.org/ (http://replaygain.org/)

Q: I want to create an audio CD. how do I do that?
A: just drag 'n drop the files you want to burn into the tracklist window or use the add button. hit the Burrrn button if ready and wait for the CD to finish.

Q: I want to burn my MP3s, FLACSs etc on CD. is Burrrn the right tool for me?
A: most probably yes. Burrrn is able to decode most common codecs out there, including MP3, ogg Vorbis, AAC and most lossless formats.

Q: is Burrrn able write CD text?
A: yes. that way you can see artist and track information on you CD player's display.

Q: why should I use Burrrn and not some other programm to burn my CDs?
A: you don't have to. however Burrrn is very lightwight, supports many audio codecs, is simple to use yet powerfull and best of all: it's free!
it can't make you see into the future or wash your car but it does what it should very good: to burn audio CDs.


<if needed: step by step tutorial how to burrn a CD and how to set up Burrrn, explaining all the options.>

someone else would have to cover the CUEsheet editor.


hope that helps, it's at least a beginning.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Gambit on 2005-06-29 05:24:59
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Meh, this just shows that I really need to write a proper documentation or FAQ.
if you want me to, I would gladly volunteer to start writeing a basic FAQ which covers some questions I could think of.
to make the pretty little pagessss even more precioussss 
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=309670"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Oh my god, sure! You are most welcome. I will... eh... give you... eh... I can send you a pic of me where I perform the happy dance. In return, I'm sure that will motivate you.

Edit: Digga works at the speed of light. I see the pic will not be necessary.

Edit2: Oh my, drunk at 5:45 on a wednesday. Wow, even I could learn from that...
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Digga on 2005-06-29 05:28:33
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Oh my god, sure! You are most welcome. I will... eh... give you... eh... I can send you a pic of me where I perform the happy dance. In return, I'm sure that will motivate you.
yay, the happy dance! I will be very very blue if I don't get it, so you better start the dance 
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Edit: Digga works at the speed of light. I see the pic will not be necessary
first you made me write this stressing article and now you want to rob me off my pic? 
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Edit2: Oh my, drunk at 5:45 on a wednesday. Wow, even I could learn from that... biggrin.gif
it's 'uni night' here every wednesday and I have passed an important examn. plus I saw a red car today. all very good reasons to have some fun 
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Gambit on 2005-06-29 05:39:25
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Oh my god, sure! You are most welcome. I will... eh... give you... eh... I can send you a pic of me where I perform the happy dance. In return, I'm sure that will motivate you.
yay, the happy dance! I will be very very blue if I don't get it, so you better start the dance 
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Edit: Digga works at the speed of light. I see the pic will not be necessary
first you made me write this stressing article and now you want to rob me off my pic? 
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Edit2: Oh my, drunk at 5:45 on a wednesday. Wow, even I could learn from that... biggrin.gif
it's 'uni night' here every wednesday and I have passed an important examn. plus I saw a red car today. all very good reasons to have some fun 
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OK, OK, you deserve it. You know what? I'll be extra generous and I even show you a video. It's archived material from one certain "party". There must have been a lot of red cars outside that night.
I won't embarrass myself in front of the whole HA, so the link is in your PM. Enjoy.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Digga on 2005-06-29 05:45:56
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OK, OK, you deserve it. You know what? I'll be extra generous and I even show you a video. It's archived material from one certain "party". There must have been a lot of red cars outside that night.
I won't embarrass myself in front of the whole HA, so the link is in your PM. Enjoy.
heh, very generous of you   
if you need a more detailed runtrough(on burrn that is) (though it's really very much straight foreward) let me know.
sleep, sweet sleep.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Gambit on 2005-07-09 10:53:34
There is a new beta that adds support for embedded cuesheets in wavpack, ape and flac:
http://www.burrrn.net/stuff/Burrrn_1.14beta.rar (http://www.burrrn.net/stuff/Burrrn_1.14beta.rar)
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: DotNoir on 2005-07-09 12:39:36
Thanks, so far seems to be working nicely! Embedded cue sheet support is all i need
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Andavari on 2005-07-12 20:12:00
Thank you, It's an awesome program Gambit! It's so easy to use and I don't have to go about fiddling with various settings or double-checking to make sure everything is alright.

One feature request I'd like would be 'Send To Tray' that way when full erasing discs it won't come back into focus when using Show Desktop.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Hanky on 2005-07-26 20:15:15
One quick question:
Does Burrrn automatically enable BurnProof or other buffer under protection mechanisms that the target drive supports?
I can't find an option related to this issue in the setting menu.

Thanks for all the good work Gambit 
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Florian on 2005-07-26 21:27:50
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Does Burrrn automatically enable BurnProof

Yes, AFAIK BurnProof is enabled by default.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: chis on 2005-09-08 14:57:40
Gambit,

Burrrn still mostly works fine for me - great little app it is.  But one thing doesn't work: in 1.13 and 1.14b1, I've tried burning a CUE/MP3 where many tracks are split across one MP3 (tried this with a WAV as well), and Burrrn just stops at the "preparing files" stage.

Any ideas?  I don't always burn files this way, but this is the only way of burning a "mixed" disc without gaps.  Shame it doesn't seem to work!
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Gambit on 2005-09-13 06:01:29
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Gambit,

Burrrn still mostly works fine for me - great little app it is.  But one thing doesn't work: in 1.13 and 1.14b1, I've tried burning a CUE/MP3 where many tracks are split across one MP3 (tried this with a WAV as well), and Burrrn just stops at the "preparing files" stage.

Any ideas?  I don't always burn files this way, but this is the only way of burning a "mixed" disc without gaps.  Shame it doesn't seem to work!
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Works here. Can you post the CUE?
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: thinkum dinkum on 2005-09-30 13:30:11
i just tried it, and it works great
have one question thou, i don't want to burn wavs always with 0 gap (with normal albums), and don't see in settings that option, what i'm overlooking?
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Gambit on 2005-09-30 16:26:32
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i just tried it, and it works great
have one question thou, i don't want to burn wavs always with 0 gap (with normal albums), and don't see in settings that option, what i'm overlooking?
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Nothing, it's not there.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: thinkum dinkum on 2005-10-01 11:45:54
ah, i see now it's not really necessary to add that 2 sec gap in the first place(dunno why nero is doing that thou)


thx for answer anyway 
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Never_Again on 2005-10-04 06:38:17
I think it is useful to have the option to add the 2sec gap between tracks.

There are some CDs that are mastered in annoying fashion of having one track run into next without any relation between the two. I am not talking about nonstop mixes/live or conceptual albums/classical suites, of course.

It is good to have a pause between unrelated tracks, and a PITA to have to add them manually with a WAV editor.  So I think the option should be there, just not default (unlike in Nero).
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: chis on 2005-10-04 13:51:35
Sorry Gambit, I forgot all about this topic... here's that CUE:

Code: [Select]
PERFORMER "British Murder Boys"
TITLE "Live at Supersonic Festival 2004"
FILE "British Murder Boys - Live at Supersonic Festival 2004.MP3" MP3
 TRACK 01 AUDIO
   TITLE "Supersonic Festival 2004 Intro"
   INDEX 01 00:00:00
 TRACK 02 AUDIO
   TITLE "Let's Say He's A Killer"
   INDEX 00 01:03:34
   INDEX 01 01:03:38
 TRACK 03 AUDIO
   TITLE "You Know I Love You"
   INDEX 00 04:48:06
   INDEX 01 04:48:10
 TRACK 04 AUDIO
   TITLE "Clean Air"
   INDEX 00 10:40:51
   INDEX 01 10:40:55
 TRACK 05 AUDIO
   TITLE "I Understand"
   INDEX 00 13:52:10
   INDEX 01 13:52:14
 TRACK 06 AUDIO
   TITLE "Father Loves Us"
   INDEX 00 20:30:28
   INDEX 01 20:30:32
 TRACK 07 AUDIO
   TITLE "Splinter"
   INDEX 00 26:58:07
   INDEX 01 26:58:11
 TRACK 08 AUDIO
   TITLE "Learn Your Lesson"
   INDEX 00 29:50:01
   INDEX 01 29:50:05
 TRACK 09 AUDIO
   TITLE "Don't Give Way To Fear"
   INDEX 00 32:40:68
   INDEX 01 32:40:71
 TRACK 10 AUDIO
   TITLE "Fist"
   INDEX 00 37:28:43
   INDEX 01 37:28:47
 TRACK 11 AUDIO
   TITLE "Apology"
   INDEX 00 43:13:00
   INDEX 01 43:13:04
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Gambit on 2005-10-19 22:47:29
chis, I have fixed that bug. You can get beta 2 here:
http://www.burrrn.net/download/burrrn_package.exe (http://www.burrrn.net/download/burrrn_package.exe)
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Tsphere on 2005-11-12 09:39:27
Firstly, I just want to say how great you're program is.
I've been searching for a long time for a high quality music burning app which supports all the codecs, and yours is really the best.

I also want to join in and say I too miss the 2 sec gap, and I think an "insert pre-gap" option is a must, even if not as a default.
I burn many mixed cds for the car, and the songs rarely fit gapless.

Anyway,
keep up the good work.

Tspehre
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: mastroalex on 2007-10-23 01:25:14
I have a problem with Burrn, I get this message in disk info:

ERROR: Cannot open SCSI device 'ASPILOCK:0,0,0':
Transport name: ASPI
Transport descr.: Generic transport independent SCSI
Transp. layer ind.: ASPI:
Target specifier: bus,target,lun
Target example: ASPI:1,2,0
SCSI Bus scanning: supported
Open via UNIX device: not supported
Transport name: SPTI
Transport descr.: Generic SCSI for Windows NT/2000/XP
Transp. layer ind.: SPTI:
Target specifier: bus,target,lun
Target example: SPTI:1,2,0
SCSI Bus scanning: supported

or with SPTI on:

?: Invalid argument. : scsi sendcmd: fatal error
CDB: 12 00 00 00 2C 00
cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 20s
ERROR: Inquiry command failed on 'SPTILOCK:0,0,0'.
?: Invalid argument. : scsi sendcmd: fatal error
CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00
cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 20s
ERROR: Cannot setup device SPTILOCK:0,0,0.

This is due to my Promise MBUltra133 PDC20276 built in IDE controller, when IDE HDs and DVD-Roms are connected to it, they are seen as SCSI, no way to change this.
If I connect the DVD-ROM to a simple IDE, it burns sloooooooow and gives me write errors.
Anyway, NERO and Imgburn work on my system.
Windows XP sp2, DVD-rom LG H55N fw 1.03 (newest), uninstalled and reinstalled lates aspi drivers.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Bourne on 2007-10-23 02:18:12
If Burrrn has:

1) Burning FLAC/MP3 on-the-fly...
2) Ability to insert/remove 2 second gaps inbetween the tracks
3) Verifying after burn.

Then I will drop Nero in the trash. ;-)
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: ExUser on 2007-10-23 02:58:27
Given that Burrrn uses CDRDAO to burn, 1 and 3 are not possible, and I don't think 2 is either, but I might be wrong.

That is, they're not possible without altering CDRDAO. What's more, I think Burrrn is no longer under active development, but I'd have to ask Matus to be sure.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: ArtMustHurt on 2007-10-29 21:16:37
If Burrrn has:

1) Burning FLAC/MP3 on-the-fly...
2) Ability to insert/remove 2 second gaps inbetween the tracks
3) Verifying after burn.

Then I will drop Nero in the trash. ;-)

1 & 3 i dont care about lol...but yeah #2 would be nice 
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: dannymichel on 2009-06-07 22:54:47
<if needed: step by step tutorial how to burrn a CD and how to set up Burrrn, explaining all the options.>

hi.
where is that step by step tutorial on how to use burrrn to rip from complaint and non compliant cue sheets?
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: gharris999 on 2009-08-20 00:19:26
<if needed: step by step tutorial how to burrn a CD and how to set up Burrrn, explaining all the options.>

hi.
where is that step by step tutorial on how to use burrrn to rip from complaint and non compliant cue sheets?

Burrrn works perfectly for me with both compliant & non-compliant cuesheets, either stand-alone or embedded in flac files.  Just drag and drop the flac or the cuesheet file onto the Burrrrn window and press the "Burrrrrn" button.  That's it for the tutorial.  Really.  It's as simple as that.

The only issues that I've found with Burrrrn are:

1).  It doesn't correctly decode UTF8 encoded stand-alone cuesheets, so I think it's probably best to turn CDTEXT off if your cuesheets are UTF8.

2).  It doesn't correctly deal with files that are dragged 'n dropped from a UNC path.  If your source files are on another computer or NAS, you'll need to map the network path to a drive letter.  Once you do that, drag 'n drop works just fine.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: lamper2 on 2010-02-07 19:14:31
hi all-just downloaded burrn cause i need to burn flac to cd-my first try resulted in a series of error messages-something about track length unable to be determined-any thoughts?   
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Bryanhoop on 2010-02-07 22:19:00
hi all-just downloaded burrn cause i need to burn flac to cd-my first try resulted in a series of error messages-something about track length unable to be determined-any thoughts?   


You are probably trying to decode FLAC 2.0 files with the 1.0 decoder that ships with burrrn. Swap it out with the new one.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: lamper2 on 2010-02-09 04:39:45
Thanks! will try that
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: lamper2 on 2010-02-09 04:54:42
one more question please-what folder should i put this in-aol?,startup? does it matter? thanks
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Arythmael on 2010-10-23 08:58:55
Burrrn does absolutely nothing. Windows XP or Windows Vista, I drag and drop a WAV file that Pro Tools has bounced as a 16-bit 44.1kHz Stereo Interleaved WAV file and Burrrn just sits there and does nothing whatsoever.

Same thing if I click the Add button and choose the file. File is on the same disk as the program, I am administrator, this is the latest version 1.14 (as of this writing).

It's junk.

I've installed CDBurnerXP and Droppix (on the XP machine) and they both add and burn these files without a problem.

Maybe you folks have an earlier version, before it was completely broken beyond any semblance of usability.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: DARcode on 2010-10-23 12:23:05
Working fine here on XP Pro SP3 and 7 Enterprise, don't slander such a nice app and learn how to update the decoders.
Title: Burrrn 1.13 released
Post by: Andavari on 2010-11-12 09:17:37
Burrrn does absolutely nothing.

No need to slam a great audio CD burning program, you would've been much better to ask for help first.

You may need to change in 'Settings' to use "Raw Driver" if it's an issue with your burner drive, or use another burner drive altogether. Burrrn doesn't get along well with one of my drives regardless of the settings, so I just use another older burner drive it works great with.