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Topic: [TOS #2] From: Inner groove distortion help for a newb (#83596) (Read 2614 times) previous topic - next topic
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[TOS #2] From: Inner groove distortion help for a newb (#83596)

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I'm wondering what my best course of action would be to reduce inner groove distortion. For now, I'm just getting ideas, so price isn't really an object.

Then buy the albums on CD. That should eliminate the problem.


How is this helpful to the OP? Or someone like myself trying to read and learn something about vinyl??

Just looks like more trolling to me.
The Loudness War is over. Now it's a hopeless occupation.
 

[TOS #2] From: Inner groove distortion help for a newb (#83596)

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@Engelsstaub: Read this quote from the opening post...
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Granted, it seems to be much more noticeable on some records than on others, and most of my vinyl is used, which leads me to believe that part of the issue can be blamed on the poor tracking of previous owners' cartridges.

In what way is offering a guaranteed fix for a specific problem raised in the opening post 'trolling'? It was a concise reply that appeared to be taken in good spirit by the OP.

Think before posting!

If the OP is buying mostly used vinyl due to being unable to source new vinyl (which is highly likely or he'd most likely be buying new in the first place as he's already stated that price isn't really an object and that quality matters to him) and the damage seems as though it may be permanent, then you suggest a better option instead of stalking me around the HA forums and repeatedly calling me a troll!

[TOS #2] From: Inner groove distortion help for a newb (#83596)

Reply #2 –
Quote from: Slipstreem on
@Engelsstaub: Read this quote from the opening post...
Quote from: Saucerful on
Granted, it seems to be much more noticeable on some records than on others, and most of my vinyl is used, which leads me to believe that part of the issue can be blamed on the poor tracking of previous owners' cartridges.

In what way is offering a guaranteed fix for a specific problem raised in the opening post 'trolling'? It was a concise reply that appeared to be taken in good spirit by the OP.

Think before posting!

If the OP is buying mostly used vinyl due to being unable to source new vinyl (which is highly likely or he'd most likely be buying new in the first place as he's already stated that price isn't really an object and that quality matters to him) and the damage seems as though it may be permanent, then you suggest a better option instead of stalking me around the HA forums and repeatedly calling me a troll!


I "repeatedly" (twice now...repeatedly) call you a troll (not just say you are at the moment trolling??) because that is what it is. And just like in that other instance, you play dumb when I call you on it; requiring multiple explanations of the same substance with different wordings.

Arrogant comments are trolling. So are useless comments like this one: "Then buy the albums on CD. That should eliminate the problem." to a question like "I'm wondering what my best course of action would be to reduce inner groove distortion."

Must I get wordy again? OK. The OP is asking how to reduce inner-groove distortion on LPs and you're suggesting that he/she repurchase them in CD format?? Just because the OP doesn't find you annoying and takes your comments in good spirit, doesn't mean I am going to ignore you.

Do you have any vinyl or know anything about it? I don't at the moment. That's why I'm interested in the idea of inner-groove distortion and not suggesting the OP buy 8-tracks, cassettes, OR CDs of albums he/she already owns. It's not helpful to someone who prefers vinyl OR IS ASKING HOW TO REDUCE THE INNER-GROOVE DISTORTION OF HIS/HER USED LPs. Get it? YOU should think before you post. May I suggest that you begin by re-reading the original post? Did it leave the remote possibility that the OP was interested in other formats?? He/she wasn't even terribly interested in discarding his current phonograph equipment.
The Loudness War is over. Now it's a hopeless occupation.

[TOS #2] From: Inner groove distortion help for a newb (#83596)

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Quote from: Engelsstaub on
Do you have any vinyl or know anything about it?

Yes. I started buying vinyl over 30 years ago and bought several hundred albums and singles before moving on. IGD was always a gross irritation to me regardless of how much money I threw at it. It's an artifact that some listeners barely seem to notice, but it drives others (including myself) totally nuts.

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I don't at the moment. That's why I'm interested in the idea of inner-groove distortion and not suggesting the OP buy 8-tracks, cassettes, OR CDs of albums he/she already owns.

Did you read the recent thread referred to in doctorcilantro's reply? IGD is an inherrent part of vinyl, or at least many of us consider it to be so. You can reduce it, but I'm not convinced that it ever entirely goes away. Why would anyone suggest that the OP buy 8-track tapes or cassettes to replace damaged vinyl? That's just absurd! A CD would get them as close as is practically possible to the sound of the original master. They can still hold onto the vinyl as a momento even if it's become unbearable to listen to. I still have many albums that'll most likely never be played again. That doesn't mean that I don't still value them for sentimental reasons.

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It's not helpful to someone who prefers vinyl OR IS ASKING HOW TO REDUCE THE INNER-GROOVE DISTORTION OF HIS/HER USED LPs. Get it?

If it's the used LPs that seem to be suffering from it far worse than new vinyl then logic suggests that the vinyl is PERMANENTLY damaged. How else do you propose that a person replaces permanently damaged vinyl with pristine vinyl if the only option available is to buy secondhand again? Going on 30 years of experience, Joe Public doesn't take very good care of his vinyl, so mint condition secondhand LPs are like hen's teeth.

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YOU should think before you post. May I suggest that you begin by re-reading the original post?

I do think before posting. That's why I offered the answer that supplies the ultimate logical solution to IGD and previously damaged vinyl. You can't get away from it with vinyl. It's a very fragile medium.

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Did it leave the remote possibility that the OP was interested in other formats?? He/she wasn't even terribly interested in discarding his current phonograph equipment.

How many people do you know who have no interest whatsoever in any other format besides vinyl? And why should a person's first thought be of discarding their current turntable and cartridge when they're here asking for possible solutions to IGD?

Had the OP taken offence at my initial reply then I'd have happily apologised and given further explanation. As no offence was taken by anyone but you, I suggest that you take a chill pill and just sit back and read. If you don't like what you read then take it up with a moderator.