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3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Re: Errors when trying to update foo_upnp and foo_out_upnp
Last post by haggis999 -
Press the Apply or OK buttons on the Preferences window, and it will ask you to restart the player to apply the updates.
As stated in my OP, I had already pressed the OK button, which is what caused that obscure error message to appear. However, I have just tried following that by either clicking OK again or an adjacent button (can't remember which) and this generated the prompt to restart the player. All is now well, but this update process would not win any prizes for clarity!

Unfortunately, these updates have not resolved my original problem, but I will raise another thread on that topic. 
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Vinyl / Re: SweetVinyl SugarCube SC-1
Last post by The Irish Man -
Would not a Laser turntable do much the same thing?

remove pops and clicks from records in real-time.

& in the year 2018, why are there no cheap Laser turntables?

I remember them from the early 1980's, they were going to be one of the next big audio things.
But they were expensive (very) at the time.

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General - (fb2k) / Re: [Suggestions / Wishlists] for future updates
Last post by snxxfuzz -
Combination of Album gain and Track gain
as already discussed years ago here
https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,98042.0.html

Given a Replay Gain tagged file, at playback time there's usually the choice between applying the album gain or the track gain. Both have their pros and cons but in general neither strategy seems to be perfect.

If we consider album gain as the "natural strategy" because it preserves the loudness difference between an album's individual tracks we may consider track gain as some kind of "deviation" from the "natural strategy" aiming to correct some flaws of the "natural strategy".

Viewed this way the question rises why there shouldn't be a measure allowing us to control the "deviation" in a smooth way from 0% (album gain) to 100% (track gain)? The latest version with the FFSoX Player plugin for WA implements the idea:


What do you think about it? Do you find it useful?

I think it's a good idea, thought I think there are too many choices.  25%, 50% and 75% should be adequate, 20% steps will definitely be adequate.

edit: minor spelling
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General Audio / Re: Does anyone else sometimes get kind of pissed thinking about the loudness wars?
Last post by j7n -
I ignore most current popular music. Unless a specific title is brought to my attention, either in a technical discussion or because it is included in a movie or video game, I do not know it exists and don't have an opinion on it. So no, I haven't become angry, maybe disappointed a few times when a non-mainstream track by an old artist is crushed.
Generally I only care about how the music sounds to me, if it sounds good then I'm happy with it. For example, I was happy listening to the "Chandelier" by Sia before I started to notice there was kind of a buzzing noise in it, especially when it gets to the loud parts. [..] I doubt that the cause is the clipping of the source because I've not been able to reliably ABX a clipped music from the unclipped so I don't think clipping..
I listened to "Chandelier". At -12.81 dB RG, it is among the loudest tracks I have, and most definitely contains heavy clipping. The intentionally added buzzing effectively masks it, suggesting that it belongs to the compositon. A harsh noise like this along with clicky drums, obvious edit points ("it doesn't exi~i~ist") and obligatory pitch bends / autotune, creates a disconnect between the sound and the lyrics: a song about party and love feels like it is set in a sci-fi alien robot factory in space. And the next pop/rnb song on the playlist is the same. Clipping is clearly audible during the peaceful ending of Chandelier with fewer simultaneous sounds: " cos I'm juŝt holding õn for tonight, õn for toniîight, on for toniîight. "

I usually notice clipping as my problem: are my speakers too loud? is something rattling against the cabinet? For some time I've marked clipped albums or tracks with a tag. It is most noticeable while listening quietly at night and not focusing on it. If I turn the level up, and repeat a segment trying to localize the defect, I eventually can't hear it anymore. I was surprised that I couldn't hear clipping in "Kiss From a Rose" by Seal (DR7), one of the most beautiful ballads from the 90s, or new age piano music from Keiko Matsui ("Wildflower" and "Moyo"). It is calm music with wide stereo, where a single choped off peak usually comes through as a click.
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General - (fb2k) / Re: [Request] View ReplayGain Track Gain True Peak Levels in Playlist as dB
Last post by darkflame23 -
It probably makes more sense for Foobar to provide a pair of new technical info %__fields% than to add generic floating point functions, which don't work in older versions and have the other arithmetic operations confusingly still limited to integers.

That would be my preferred way of dealing with it, perhaps something like %replaygain_track_peak_db% or something?
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