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Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: Air_Borne on 2001-12-03 19:43:39
I would just like to ask if there is any loss if i burn my MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Thank you for the answer(s)
Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: JohnV on 2001-12-03 20:00:04
No. The loss only happens in encoding phase.
Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: Air_Borne on 2001-12-03 20:22:56
i know this doesn't fit into that kind of forum but anyway... what could be the problem of my CD-RW TEAC 16/12/40.. it never burns my cd in time because it keeps losing chache (i'm glad it has burn proof because otherwise all my cd's would be ruined...) i tried raising the buffer value (now on 55MB) but my results are still very bad... can you help? (i downloaded the new firmware but it is said that i don't need it...
i use Nero

Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: Case on 2001-12-03 20:37:44
Air_Borne, make sure your CD-RW drive has DMA mode enabled. This is especially important if it is sharing bus with the device you get data you burn.
Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: Air_Borne on 2001-12-03 20:45:57
hm, where exactly can i enable DMA?
Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: Case on 2001-12-03 20:56:10
Go to Device Manager. If you are using win9x the setting is in CD/DVD Drives  your drive. Open drive's properties and mark DMA checkbox there. Under 2k/XP the setting is in IDE/ATAPI controllers  primary or secondary IDE channel, depending on where you have the drive. There under tab Advanced Settings select "DMA if available".
Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: Air_Borne on 2001-12-08 11:25:45
should all my ide devices be od `dma if available` ?
Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: Air_Borne on 2001-12-08 11:34:45
an something else... i heard that in some cases cd's are not perfect (especially some made in asia - e.g. fuji) and they create some mistakes while burning. which manufacturer is good? i am going to store albums on cds, cause i don't have enough diskspace for now, so i want to make sure my cd's will still sound as perfect as if they would be stored on disk...
Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: Case on 2001-12-08 13:23:33
If your ide drives are DMA capable you should keep them that way. That way accessing them is not so CPU intensive.
For the consern about cd media quality, check this site: http://cd-rw.org (http://cd-rw.org). Personally I have used also cheap low quality discs and I haven't had any problems with them.
Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: Air_Borne on 2001-12-12 20:26:39
are hard disks DMA compatible? (should i enable DMA on hd's too?
Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: john33 on 2001-12-12 23:01:43
Air_Borne

If your hard disks are less than about 5 years old, they are almost certainly DMA compatible. There are different varieties, but that does not matter so far as settings in Windows are concerned.

There are:
Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: Air_Borne on 2001-12-13 20:46:55
well, yes, it does help...  . Thanks a lot
Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: Air_Borne on 2001-12-18 20:39:12
until today i had no chance to try out if dma would help... well it doesn't!
what now?
Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: Case on 2001-12-19 16:22:42
Air_Borne, if you still haven't fixed the problem download NeroInfoTool here (http://www.cdspeed2000.com/) and tell what it says in configuration window.
Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: Air_Borne on 2001-12-23 17:27:19
hm, the program doesn't work.. it says it has generated errors-  so the program doesn't run.
Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: Air_Borne on 2001-12-25 16:35:11
well i got neroinfotool working on win98
well it says quite a lot, bit i think that still my cd-rw is damaged:

Drive Information          : n„aF
-----------------          : n„aF
Drive                      : TEAC    CD-W516EB     
Type                      : CD-RW Recorder
Firmware Version          : 1.0B
Buffer Size                : 1456 KB
Date                      : 04-12-01
Serial Number              : ?
Drive Letter              : F:
Location                  : 0:1
Mechanism                  : Tray
Read Speed (Max.)          : 40 X
Write Speed (Max.)        : 16 X
Write Speed (Max.)        : 16 X
Read CD Text              : Yes
Return C2 Pointers        : Yes
Read CD-R                  : Yes
Read CD-RW                : Yes
Read DVD-ROM              : No
Read DVD-RAM              : No
Read DVD-R                : No
Read DVD-RW                : No
Read DVD+RW                : No
Read Digital Audio        : Yes
Read CD+G                  : Yes
Read VideoCD              : Yes
Read VideoCD              : Yes
Write CD-R                : Yes
Write CD-RW                : Yes
Write DVD-R                : No
Write DVD-RW              : No
Write DVD+RW              : No
Write DVD-RAM              : No
Buffer Underrun Protection : Yes
Mount Rainier              : No
Modes                      : Packet, TAO, DAO, SAO, RAW SAO, RAW DAO, RAW SAO 16, RAW SAO 96, RAW DAO 16, RAW DAO 96
Modes                      : Packet, TAO, DAO, SAO, RAW SAO, RAW DAO, RAW SAO 16, RAW SAO 96, RAW DAO 16, RAW DAO 96
Modes                      : Packet, TAO, DAO, SAO, RAW SAO, RAW DAO, RAW SAO 16, RAW SAO 96, RAW DAO 16, RAW DAO 96
Disc Information (F:)    : Packet, TAO, DAO, SAO, RAW SAO, RAW DAO, RAW SAO 16, RAW SAO 96, RAW DAO 16, RAW DAO 96
-------------------        : Packet, TAO, DAO, SAO, RAW SAO, RAW DAO, RAW SAO 16, RAW SAO 96, RAW DAO 16, RAW DAO 96
Type                      : - no disc inserted -
Type                      : - no disc inserted -
.                          : - no disc inserted -
Drive Information          : - no disc inserted -
-----------------          : - no disc inserted -


is this enough?


air
Title: Loss when burning MPC to a CD-R(W)?
Post by: Air_Borne on 2001-12-25 16:47:22
well i think i should write that i lended my teac writer to my friend and we tested it... the same bullshit happened even though my friend has a ibm ata66 7200 rpm disc and i have wd ata33 5400rpm...
i guess that  i will just try to replace my writer for a new one... (it is still in guarantee /or however that is spelled??)
uhm... and i tried to check how it works on nero cdspeed - it works absolutelly brilliant.... it is even better than my cd rom teac 540e- who is doing it's job very bad.
average speed (both audio and data) are:
for TEAC CD-W516EB (cd-rw) : about 30x
for TEAC CD-540E (cd-rom) : only about 4x ???????????? (on the tests on www.cdspeed2000.com (http://www.cdspeed2000.com) my cdrom should do much better than this!!!)

well i guess both my cd rom and my cd-rw are acting strange. cdrom isn't doing its job as he should be, but cd recorder is doing cdrom's job instead. but when coming to burning he does hos job baaaad


well hope somebody could help