J (one of the co-authors of that site) has a bit of a history with some of the regulars here.[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=323595"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
You can say that again. At the end of every one of my tests, he wrote angry letters trying to point out the inherent errors in their planning.
Darryl and I always got a laugh out of it.
[00:00:29] Leviathan: OMGOMGOMG! An e-mail from an old friend of
yours!
[00:00:40] Leviathan: "Hi Roberto,
Not to blow it all down, but what encoder settings
did you use with N.D.A. (and how/where did you enter them?)
and what the hell did you do with LAME ?
Because, I'm sorry, but Ogg Vorbis and LAME
both are already WAY better at around 56 kbps
than the mp4 at 22 kHz that Nero's latest Ultra Suite
creates.
Difference is like night and day.
Check the sample (and results) I use here"
[00:00:48] Leviathan: "Note that the Ogg Vorbis file is not only the
smallest, it also sounds the best. Now explain that!
For lame I used our own 3.97 compile and;
-B64 -q0 -V9 -t --lowpass 11 --cwlimit 9
--athlower 32 --scale 0.99 --athaa-sensitivity 1
The mp4's I create with nero sound like total crap
and resampled down to 22 kHz! Either Nero should release
their stuff with better defaults, or your listening test
is everything BUT reliable."
[00:00:57] Leviathan: "I also think it's rather silly to let Vorbis be
tested using a lower sample rate than the others
(as I seems to understand you have been doing).
This will create a completely wrong set of results
that do not make much sense in real world situations."
[00:01:01] miyaguch@esk: julius?
[00:01:09] Leviathan: "> Nero Digital Audio won, tied to
CodingTechnologies' MP3pro.
> Ogg Vorbis, WMA Std., 7kHz lowpass, Real Audio
> and QDesign Music Codec come in second place,
> with Vorbis a little below the others. Lame loses.
Total nonsense. I don't buy into it anyway."
[00:01:56] Leviathan: LOL! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:02:06] miyaguch@esk: that idiot
[00:02:12] Leviathan: How did you find out????
[00:02:21] miyaguch@esk: it sounds just like him
(for the 32kbps test)