Hiya, i'm having trouble understanding the output of the AccurateRip verify log. e.g.
[CUETools log; Date: 11/01/11 19:03:10; Version: 2.0.9]
[CTDB TOCID: QVa9gR44XCKqsp31K0T9CGWU5hE-] disk not present in database.
[AccurateRip ID: 001633b3-00cfaa96-970bbc0c] found.
Track [ CRC ] Status
01 [c4d4f2b8] (02/09) Accurately ripped
02 [d062e3fe] (02/10) Accurately ripped
03 [30895429] (02/10) Accurately ripped
04 [8ce7dcd0] (02/10) Accurately ripped
05 [ac9b77b5] (00/08) No match
06 [809612bb] (02/10) Accurately ripped
07 [54599655] (02/10) Accurately ripped
08 [adadc188] (02/10) Accurately ripped
09 [15b2fdfc] (02/10) Accurately ripped
10 [3ba9d122] (00/08) No match
11 [e3d302cf] (00/07) No match
12 [b2768e83] (00/07) No match
Offsetted by 31:
01 [023ba6fe] (05/09) Accurately ripped
02 [745fd286] (06/10) Accurately ripped
03 [b7e2c184] (06/10) Accurately ripped
04 [0ebde9df] (06/10) Accurately ripped
05 [770305eb] (06/08) Accurately ripped
06 [6d93f6d3] (06/10) Accurately ripped
07 [086cf384] (06/10) Accurately ripped
08 [addf4a5e] (06/10) Accurately ripped
09 [8a69ae87] (06/10) Accurately ripped
10 [d84a9c32] (06/08) Accurately ripped
11 [3a987af7] (05/07) Accurately ripped
12 [98624269] (05/07) Accurately ripped
The first lot matches my EAC log... so what's the second lot about?
Exact Audio Copy V1.0 beta 1 from 15. November 2010
EAC extraction logfile from 11. January 2011, 16:16
Belinda Carlisle / The Best Of Belinda Volume 1
Used drive : HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GH22NP20 Adapter: 7 ID: 0
Read mode : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache : No
Make use of C2 pointers : No
Read offset correction : 102
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations : No
Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling : Appended to previous track
Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
Sample format : 44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo
TOC of the extracted CD
Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
---------------------------------------------------------
1 | 0:00.00 | 4:06.47 | 0 | 18496
2 | 4:06.47 | 4:16.18 | 18497 | 37714
3 | 8:22.65 | 3:40.60 | 37715 | 54274
4 | 12:03.50 | 4:14.47 | 54275 | 73371
5 | 16:18.22 | 4:10.40 | 73372 | 92161
6 | 20:28.62 | 4:10.33 | 92162 | 110944
7 | 24:39.20 | 4:22.22 | 110945 | 130616
8 | 29:01.42 | 4:14.20 | 130617 | 149686
9 | 33:15.62 | 4:12.38 | 149687 | 168624
10 | 37:28.25 | 4:09.70 | 168625 | 187369
11 | 41:38.20 | 4:13.65 | 187370 | 206409
12 | 45:52.10 | 4:12.42 | 206410 | 225351
Track 1
Filename C:\Users\Public\Music\_Archive\Belinda Carlisle\The Best Of Belinda Volume 1
(1992)\01. Belinda Carlisle - Heaven Is A Place On Earth.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:02.00
Peak level 94.2 %
Extraction speed 2.9 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC 00B26D6C
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [C4D4F2B8]
Copy OK
Track 2
Filename C:\Users\Public\Music\_Archive\Belinda Carlisle\The Best Of Belinda Volume 1
(1992)\02. Belinda Carlisle - (We Want) The Same Thing.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:00.07
Peak level 78.7 %
Extraction speed 3.3 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC 673269D7
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [D062E3FE]
Copy OK
Track 3
Filename C:\Users\Public\Music\_Archive\Belinda Carlisle\The Best Of Belinda Volume 1
(1992)\03. Belinda Carlisle - Circle In The Wind.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:00.23
Peak level 85.8 %
Extraction speed 3.5 X
Track quality 99.9 %
Copy CRC 79547D48
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [30895429]
Copy OK
Track 4
Filename C:\Users\Public\Music\_Archive\Belinda Carlisle\The Best Of Belinda Volume 1
(1992)\04. Belinda Carlisle - Leave A Light On.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:00.33
Peak level 95.2 %
Extraction speed 3.8 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC 4DC6296E
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [8CE7DCD0]
Copy OK
Track 5
Filename C:\Users\Public\Music\_Archive\Belinda Carlisle\The Best Of Belinda Volume 1
(1992)\05. Belinda Carlisle - Little Black Book.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:00.02
Peak level 89.1 %
Extraction speed 4.1 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC ABBF1C08
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 6) [AC9B77B5], AccurateRip returned [770305EB]
Copy OK
Track 6
Filename C:\Users\Public\Music\_Archive\Belinda Carlisle\The Best Of Belinda Volume 1
(1992)\06. Belinda Carlisle - Summer Rain.wav
Peak level 89.0 %
Extraction speed 4.3 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC B158FBBB
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [809612BB]
Copy OK
Track 7
Filename C:\Users\Public\Music\_Archive\Belinda Carlisle\The Best Of Belinda Volume 1
(1992)\07. Belinda Carlisle - Live Your Life Be Free.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:00.60
Peak level 89.1 %
Extraction speed 4.4 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC FF724F97
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [54599655]
Copy OK
Track 8
Filename C:\Users\Public\Music\_Archive\Belinda Carlisle\The Best Of Belinda Volume 1
(1992)\08. Belinda Carlisle - I Get Weak.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:00.37
Peak level 100.0 %
Extraction speed 4.7 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC 7BFAD561
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [ADADC188]
Copy OK
Track 9
Filename C:\Users\Public\Music\_Archive\Belinda Carlisle\The Best Of Belinda Volume 1
(1992)\09. Belinda Carlisle - La Luna.wav
Peak level 100.0 %
Extraction speed 4.8 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC E076A3B1
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [15B2FDFC]
Copy OK
Track 10
Filename C:\Users\Public\Music\_Archive\Belinda Carlisle\The Best Of Belinda Volume 1
(1992)\10. Belinda Carlisle - I Plead Insanity.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:01.13
Peak level 92.1 %
Extraction speed 5.0 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC CA7C9DE7
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 6) [3BA9D122], AccurateRip returned [D84A9C32]
Copy OK
Track 11
Filename C:\Users\Public\Music\_Archive\Belinda Carlisle\The Best Of Belinda Volume 1
(1992)\11. Belinda Carlisle - Do You Feel Like I Feel.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:00.63
Peak level 100.0 %
Extraction speed 5.2 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC 9AA33B3E
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 5) [E3D302CF], AccurateRip returned [3A987AF7]
Copy OK
Track 12
Filename C:\Users\Public\Music\_Archive\Belinda Carlisle\The Best Of Belinda Volume 1
(1992)\12. Belinda Carlisle - Runaway Horses.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:00.45
Peak level 86.5 %
Extraction speed 5.4 X
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC 6AB83915
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 5) [B2768E83], AccurateRip returned [98624269]
Copy OK
8 track(s) accurately ripped
4 track(s) could not be verified as accurate
Some tracks could not be verified as accurate
No errors occurred
End of status report
Thanks.
There are two pressing of your CD in the database: one is shifted by a 31 offset, and that one has been submitted by 5-6 people with the same results. Your pressing has been submitted by two people, but they didn't rip/submit all tracks, just the selected ones (the AR database is track-based, not disc-based, that's why you can get "incomplete" results, because people can, and often do, submit just individual track results).
Anyway, when you see results as this in your EAC log, it's always a good idea to run a CUETools verification afterwards. Then, if you get a "full" positive result with a different offset (as you did in your example), you have a confirmation that your rip is accurate. This functionality ("cross-pressing verification") is supposed to make it into EAC at some point. I think it's already included in XLD ripper, not sure about dBPoweramp.
There are two pressing of your CD in the database: one is shifted by a 31 offset, and that one has been submitted by 5-6 people with the same results. Your pressing has been submitted by two people, but they didn't rip/submit all tracks, just the selected ones (the AR database is track-based, not disc-based, that's why you can get "incomplete" results, because people can, and often do, submit just individual track results).
Thanks for the quick reply Goratrix.
Track 1 in EAC log is: C4D4F2B8
Track 1 in CueTools (first section is): c4d4f2b8 (the same)
Track 1 in CueTools (second section is): 023ba6fe
All of those reported as Accu ok, despite having different numbers.
Are those numbers track id's for AccurateRip? Can the exact same track could have different numbers for AccurateRip?
This functionality ("cross-pressing verification") is supposed to make it into EAC at some point. I think it's already included in XLD ripper, not sure about dBPoweramp.
Yes, dbpoweramp has cross pressing verification. I do wish the GUI would indicate if the AR verification was matched with the same or different pressing(s). The ideal situation is a match with your pressing and at least one pressing with a different offset.
they didn't rip/submit all tracks
How do you know that they each submitted the tracks but submitted different results?
they didn't rip/submit all tracks
How do you know that they each submitted the tracks but submitted different results?
does it matter in this case at all what the exact background of those submissions is? if he gets a full positive match, just on a different offset, it can be considered an accurate rip, or not?
also I noticed just now that I missed something, there are 2 more submissions for that ID that don't show in the log, so it could be some weird combination of multiple pressings with different data in some tracks, right? or just another pressing with an offset higher that the CUETools range?
The data suggests to me exactly the question I posed to you.
In case you weren't aware, track submissions with unique hash values are removed from the public database until they get a match from a different user, unless no other submissions exist for those particular tracks.
if he gets a full positive match, just on a different offset, it can be considered an accurate rip, or not?
Good question! Was it rhetorical? Is my rip accurate?
also I noticed just now that I missed something, there are 2 more submissions for that ID that don't show in the log, so it could be some weird combination of multiple pressings with different data in some tracks, right? or just another pressing with an offset higher that the CUETools range?
That was my ignorant guess.
I also thought that EAC 1.0b1 supported AccurateRip v2 - by the sound of it, that's not the same as this multiple pressing bizzo?
Assuming you have a factory-pressed CD, it was ripped accurately.
I also thought that EAC 1.0b1 supported AccurateRip v2 - by the sound of it, that's not the same as this multiple pressing bizzo?
Checking against multiple pressings can be done with both AR1 and AR2 hashes. Although EAC still cannot compare rips with multiple pressings, it can compare against a single pressing with either hash algorithm.
Assuming you have a factory-pressed CD, it was ripped accurately.
Yep, i admit it, i have a 'real' version of a Belinda Carlisle CD.
I also thought that EAC 1.0b1 supported AccurateRip v2 - by the sound of it, that's not the same as this multiple pressing bizzo?
Checking against multiple pressings can be done with both AR1 and AR2 hashes. Although EAC still cannot compare rips with multiple pressings, it can compare against a single pressing with either hash algorithm.
Ahh.. that explains it. I know EAC doesn't get updated often, in your wanderings (you're everywhere!) have you heard if there's any plans to do it (or if the author thinks it worth doing)? Thanks again Greynol.
also I noticed just now that I missed something, there are 2 more submissions for that ID that don't show in the log, so it could be some weird combination of multiple pressings with different data in some tracks, right? or just another pressing with an offset higher that the CUETools range?
Sorry, forgot to try to answer this earlier. The two submissions that are unaccounted for are from a third pressing in the record which could either be out of the offset range (~10 frames) or could have entirely different data, that's correct.
I know EAC doesn't get updated often, in your wanderings (you're everywhere!) have you heard if there's any plans to do it (or if the author thinks it worth doing)?
The request has been made, though there's no guarantee that it will be incorporated.