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Title: ID3 Ratings in iTunes
Post by: wolfsong on 2008-04-07 08:55:04
Does anyone know of a hack to make iTunes use the information stored in the ID3 RATING tag?
Title: ID3 Ratings in iTunes
Post by: wolfsong on 2008-04-19 23:03:23
No ideas?
Title: ID3 Ratings in iTunes
Post by: garym on 2008-04-19 23:21:07
Not sure about ratings, but I've used MP3TAG to copy values from one tag into a tag that ITUNES recognizes (e.g., "compilations" to "ITUNESCOMPILATION"). You might try mp3tag.
Title: ID3 Ratings in iTunes
Post by: ~*McoreD*~ on 2008-04-20 04:45:13
Great idea.

I have plans to add

Fill track Rating|PlayedCount using Popularimeter (POPM)
   http://www.anytag.de/forums/index.php?showtopic=4316 (http://www.anytag.de/forums/index.php?showtopic=4316)
   http://forum.taglib-sharp.com/viewtopic.ph...hilit=POPM#p421 (http://forum.taglib-sharp.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=130&p=421&hilit=POPM#p421)

Write Popularimeter (POPM) using Rating|PlayedCount using iTunes Rating|PlayedCount

to an addon  I am making. I will let you know how it goes if you are interested.
Title: ID3 Ratings in iTunes
Post by: wolfsong on 2008-04-20 05:45:50
Great idea.

I have plans to add

Fill track Rating|PlayedCount using Popularimeter (POPM)
   http://www.anytag.de/forums/index.php?showtopic=4316 (http://www.anytag.de/forums/index.php?showtopic=4316)
   http://forum.taglib-sharp.com/viewtopic.ph...hilit=POPM#p421 (http://forum.taglib-sharp.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=130&p=421&hilit=POPM#p421)

Write Popularimeter (POPM) using Rating|PlayedCount using iTunes Rating|PlayedCount

to an addon  I am making. I will let you know how it goes if you are interested.

This seems to be the opposite of what I need. I have ratings saved in my ID3 tags. What I want is to be able to read that metadata in iTunes since I'm only using it to load tracks to my shuffle and buy the occasional download. F2K is my primary player
Title: ID3 Ratings in iTunes
Post by: zombiewerewolf on 2008-04-20 06:09:42
I don't think iTunes add rating information into tag. I checked with fb2k and mp3tag, there is no additional tag for rating.

Beside, when you delete songs from iTunes database, all rating info will also be deleted.
Title: ID3 Ratings in iTunes
Post by: kornchild2002 on 2008-04-20 07:00:25
iTunes stores the rating, playcount, and various other information in your actual library database file.  iTunes cannot read ratings or playcounts made by other programs.  So the only way for you to have such information is to do it all manually through iTunes.  iTunes will also store album art in your library file if you have it look up the artwork automatically.  I am not quite sure why Apple took this approach with the ratings and playcounts but they did.
Title: ID3 Ratings in iTunes
Post by: wolfsong on 2008-04-20 07:10:43
iTunes stores the rating, playcount, and various other information in your actual library database file.  iTunes cannot read ratings or playcounts made by other programs.  So the only way for you to have such information is to do it all manually through iTunes.  iTunes will also store album art in your library file if you have it look up the artwork automatically.  I am not quite sure why Apple took this approach with the ratings and playcounts but they did.

Doesn't it read the tags for the rest of the metadata? I guess I was thinking some sort of scripting could copy the values into iTunes?
Title: ID3 Ratings in iTunes
Post by: kornchild2002 on 2008-04-20 08:15:22
There might be a Apple script doing this.  iTunes will read most of the data off of the mp3's ID3 tag (or metadata).  Information such as song title, album, song #, song # of, year, genre, etc.  I believe that the only thing iTunes uses your library file for is playcount, ratings, and album art if it isn't embedded.  I am not sure what OS you are on though.  Forget it if you are on Windows, do some Google searching if you are on Mac OS X.

There are plenty of websites offering Apple scripts that deal with iTunes.  Someone made an Apple script to embed album art in songs using iTunes a long time ago.  It took Windows users about a year or maybe even longer to finally make a program that would use iTunes to do this.
Title: ID3 Ratings in iTunes
Post by: ~*McoreD*~ on 2008-05-02 01:23:21

Great idea.

I have plans to add

Fill track Rating|PlayedCount using Popularimeter (POPM)
   http://www.anytag.de/forums/index.php?showtopic=4316 (http://www.anytag.de/forums/index.php?showtopic=4316)
   http://forum.taglib-sharp.com/viewtopic.ph...hilit=POPM#p421 (http://forum.taglib-sharp.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=130&p=421&hilit=POPM#p421)

Write Popularimeter (POPM) using Rating|PlayedCount using iTunes Rating|PlayedCount

to an addon  I am making. I will let you know how it goes if you are interested.

This seems to be the opposite of what I need. I have ratings saved in my ID3 tags. What I want is to be able to read that metadata in iTunes since I'm only using it to load tracks to my shuffle and buy the occasional download. F2K is my primary player



wolfsong, I dont it is the opposite. I have listed both ways import/export if you look carefully. 

When you say "use the information stored in the ID3 RATING tag" do you mean they are stored in the PCNT or POPM frame? If that's so I have implemented just that.

Cheers,
McoreD
Title: ID3 Ratings in iTunes
Post by: ~*McoreD*~ on 2008-05-02 01:45:01
I have it demoed here:

http://wmwiki.com/mcored/research/itsfv/itunes-popm (http://wmwiki.com/mcored/research/itsfv/itunes-popm)
Title: ID3 Ratings in iTunes
Post by: PhileasFogg on 2008-06-25 17:49:21
I have it demoed here:

http://wmwiki.com/mcored/research/itsfv/itunes-popm (http://wmwiki.com/mcored/research/itsfv/itunes-popm)



what's the development status of this app??  thatnks!
Title: ID3 Ratings in iTunes
Post by: ~*McoreD*~ on 2008-06-26 03:19:26
PhileasFogg,

Please refer to http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=51708 (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=51708)

Cheers.