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Title: Behringer B3031As or JBL 308s?
Post by: sboistan on 2016-05-05 03:42:07

Hi, has anybody heard the B3031As, specifically in comparison with the jbl 308s?   Sweetwater lists them as no longer available so they might have been discontinued, although  they're still available on some other retail sites.  I had a pair of b2021as that I was very happy with, but replaced them with some JBL 305s which I will be returning (guess I was hoping for a little more bass extension, but not really  surprised about how they sound considering their size).  I'll be using them for near/mid field listening.  I'm also curious about the Mackie  MR8mk3.
Title: Re: Behringer B3031As or JBL 308s?
Post by: Arnold B. Krueger on 2016-06-09 18:20:18

Hi, has anybody heard the B3031As, specifically in comparison with the jbl 308s?   Sweetwater lists them as no longer available so they might have been discontinued, although  they're still available on some other retail sites.  I had a pair of b2021as that I was very happy with, but replaced them with some JBL 305s which I will be returning (guess I was hoping for a little more bass extension, but not really  surprised about how they sound considering their size).  I'll be using them for near/mid field listening.  I'm also curious about the Mackie  MR8mk3.

A friend has had the larger Behringer Truth monitors for years and has been pretty happy with them, but now prefers the JBL 308s. 

Since they have been mentioned here. a pair of Infinity 393 floor standers were cycled through my listening room before I obtained the 308s.
Title: Re: Behringer B3031As or JBL 308s?
Post by: sboistan on 2016-06-20 22:43:01
I listened to a few monitors at Guitar Center today - although they're in a different price bracket as the LSRS, I was particularly impressed with the Focal and Adam monitors that I heard (Focal Alpha 65/80 and Adam A7X).  the LSRS were very good, even though they weren't ideally placed at all.  I'm going to spend some more time there before I pull the trigger.
Title: Re: Behringer B3031As or JBL 308s?
Post by: sboistan on 2017-01-11 03:21:32
Update: I ended up picking up the Adam A7Xs @ B&H photo in NYC.
Title: Re: Behringer B3031As or JBL 308s?
Post by: KozmoNaut on 2017-01-11 07:05:21
That's quite a jump in price, but you'll finely be happy with those. They're simply amazing speakers.
Title: Re: Behringer B3031As or JBL 308s?
Post by: sboistan on 2017-01-12 07:10:06

Yeah, I decided they were worth the splurge. To my ears, there was a dramatic difference between them and the competition (even at that price point).  However, now that I have them at home, I realize I that I might have been perfectly happy with the A5Xs.  I've made some minor adjustments to tame the low end but it's clear that I need to do more...
Title: Re: Behringer B3031As or JBL 308s?
Post by: KozmoNaut on 2017-01-12 07:13:00
I would recommend doing some measurements with REW and either use the equalizer APO in Windows or a MiniDSP. It gives you so much better results than the controls on the back of the speakers.
Title: Re: Behringer B3031As or JBL 308s?
Post by: sboistan on 2017-01-13 08:28:59

Thanks, I'll certainly check those tools out.  I found a guide "Getting Started to Rew - A Step By Step Guide" on the avsforum.  Looks like as good as any place to start (for the novice)...
Title: Re: Behringer B3031As or JBL 308s?
Post by: silverprout on 2017-01-15 21:37:35
I would recommend doing some measurements with REW and either use the equalizer APO in Windows or a MiniDSP. It gives you so much better results than the controls on the back of the speakers.

You should also add rephase, and you don't absolutely need an MiniDSP IMHO.
I'm using an simple AC97 6 channels external soundcard and 5 channels amplifier... each loudspeaker driver is equalized (REW and equalizer APO) and phase coherent (Rephase) the result is... you should try  :o  ;)
Title: Re: Behringer B3031As or JBL 308s?
Post by: Arnold B. Krueger on 2017-01-17 17:01:47
I would recommend doing some measurements with REW and either use the equalizer APO in Windows or a MiniDSP. It gives you so much better results than the controls on the back of the speakers.

Excellent advice! I've tried this and it works like a storm.  A full parametric eq like Equalizer APO + the Peace control app is easily as effective as MiniDSP for this purpose, and the price is right - no out of pocket expense whatsoever.  Good learning experience for those who have never gone there before.

Just google "Peace Equalizer UI APO"  (no quotes). I've used it with ever release of windows since 7.1 .
Title: Re: Behringer B3031As or JBL 308s?
Post by: sboistan on 2017-01-17 20:04:25

I don't have a microphone for calibration... is miniDSP UMIK-1 the leading affordable candidate?
Title: Re: Behringer B3031As or JBL 308s?
Post by: Arnold B. Krueger on 2017-01-17 20:24:48

I don't have a microphone for calibration... is miniDSP UMIK-1 the leading affordable candidate?

Yes.