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Reply #77
This plugin is realy great, but is there anyway ti flip the orientation of the bars?

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Reply #78
That would be even more awesome to have an option of showing freq instead of notes.

Or there's a plugin which shows spectrum in all audible range labeled with actual freqs?

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Reply #79
That would be even more awesome to have an option of showing freq instead of notes.

Or there's a plugin which shows spectrum in all audible range labeled with actual freqs?
Well, that's the weird part... the default included Spectrum does show frequencies along the bottom, Seems to depend on the number of bars visible... with just 40 bars they always show but go to 80 or 160 and they only show if you've got a wall screen...

PS. if you have tooltips enabled for the Musical one it shows the frequency in the tooltip together with the corresponding note... not the same but at least you can find out which freq goes with which note

EDIT: Argh. completely forgot the default included Spectrum can't be shoved into a panel in Columns UI...

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Reply #80
This plugin is realy great, but is there anyway ti flip the orientation of the bars?

Was going to ask the same thing but since you didn't get an answer I'm guessing this isn't possible. Was looking for a way to flip it upside down (mirrored).

Edit: Never mind, found it. Yes, I'm blind.

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Reply #81
I would just like to say, what a smokin awesome job,, such a incredibly useful tool for mastering engineers,, why cant the people we pay nearly 1,000 bucks come up with something as useful as this! many thanks  man! keep u the great work! i cant wait to see what you will come up with next..How about some super peak meters! ! just awesome work! Many thanks!

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Reply #82
Thank you very much for this useful eyecandy. I love the possibility to adjust the frequency range. I was looking for a Default UI spectrum analyzer that displayed frequencies below 50 Hz for quite a time and now I finally found this little plugin that even looks awesome with default settings. Very happy about that!

I've got one favor to ask though: The frequency is now being displayed in the tooltip; would you please make it possible to show the frequencies at the top / bottom labels? Also, if the number of bars would be adjustable then this plugin would leave no more desired.

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Reply #83
Feature Request - in peak hold mode, I'd like to be able to set gravity to a very low value.  The setting appears to be limited to integer values, i. e., it will not accept a decimal point.

I listen to a lot of downloaded audience concert recordings.  I've been experimenting with using the Foobar equalizer along with your spectrum display with peak-hold as a rough tool for spectral sculpting.  (Have you noticed that the eq's  bands are all, effectively, at A & D#?)  I expand the amplitude to 80 dB, & the bandwidth out to D#10 (19.912 kHz - close enuff to 20 for gov't work, amirite?), and I put splitters in the display areas for the spectrum & eq to align A1 with the 55 Hz slider, and A9 (14080 - anybody wanna quibble?) with 14k.  This aligns the eq sliders very nicely with the the spectral display.  I enable peak hold, with a very long hold times (a minute or more!), and have been playing with gravity values.

The scheme would work ideally with a VERY slow peak decay - 1 is quite a bit too fast for this purpose, but 0 will hold the extreme peaks forever, so that's no good either.  I'm trying to tweak the peak decay, via hod & gravity, to work as a sort of an averager.  Not what they're designed for, I know, but I come from an applications engineering background, and finding new ways to use existing tools is sorta what I do.  Anyhow, a fractional setting would be an interesting thing to experiment with.

Just wondering of this is possible - thanks for a really useful tool, in any event.

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Reply #84
Why does my install not want to run musical spec even though I have pasted it into both components and the main folder. anyone have any ideas..

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Reply #85
Why does my install not want to run musical spec even though I have pasted it into both components and the main folder. anyone have any ideas..
Same problem here

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Reply #86
Did you:

1.  Download zip
2.  Open Foobar, go to File/Preferences/Components, hit the "Install" button, browse to the zip, and hit OK
3.  Then restart Foobar?




 

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Reply #87
Thanx, great spectrum..

Question 1:  I want to display 20to20Khz, the audible band... what are you using for "Notes"?  I have it set to F0 - D#10
Question 2:  Why are the low frequencies show spread across multiple bars?  I have a test disc that plays sine waves... when I play low frequencies such as 20 HZ or 80 HZ, the spectrum should have only one bar displayed, but plays a hump... higher frequencies are no problem with a single bar.
Question 3: Any plans to show Hertz and not notes?

Thanx
Bruce in Philly

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Reply #88
this is frigging awesome!!! Please tell me that there is a matching VU meter and Peak meter?????

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Reply #89
For some reason I dont think I'm seeing the full spectrum analyzer from left to right. I only see A B C1 thru A B C9.

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Reply #90
For some reason I dont think I'm seeing the full spectrum analyzer from left to right. I only see A B C1 thru A B C9.
I think you squeezed component horizontally. Just stretch it and you will see whole spectrum.

Thanx, great spectrum..

Question 1:  I want to display 20to20Khz, the audible band... what are you using for "Notes"?  I have it set to F0 - D#10
Question 2:  Why are the low frequencies show spread across multiple bars?  I have a test disc that plays sine waves... when I play low frequencies such as 20 HZ or 80 HZ, the spectrum should have only one bar displayed, but plays a hump... higher frequencies are no problem with a single bar.
Question 3: Any plans to show Hertz and not notes?

Thanx
Bruce in Philly
1. Here I set C0 - F10, but D#10 should be enough.
2. Sorry, but you just need some education, which is far beyond this subforum. This component by design shows BANDS of frequencies, not just frequencies themselves. These bands are called terces and are fixed "by design" - it is a long story of creation of "equal temperament", which eliminated flaws of ancient (like Greek) musical temperaments. It's something on border of acoustics and music theory.
3. I am not author, but I don't think so. It is "Musical Spectrum", not "Yet Another Spectrograph". Term "Musical" in name suggests that it is all about music - composition and playing on instruments, which involves usage of notes, not frequencies. And those terces and octaves play important role, related to pitch of notes.

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Reply #91
Very great plugin, amazing work!
Thanks!
Somewhere, there's someone dying in a foreign land
Meanwhile, the world is crying stupidity of man
Tell me why, tell me why

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Reply #92
Is there not a way to switch from pitches (C0, C1 etc.) to cycles per second (Hz)?

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Reply #93
No and that's why this is "musical spectrum" - spectrum accordingly to how spectrum is divided in music (notes, semitones, etc).

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Reply #94
Ah, it's pretty useless then, unless you want to hover your cursor on the spectrum all the time, on specific points. There could have been a separate row for Hz for reference, below the note names. Hz is a more important unit for audio engineers.

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Reply #95
Two things:
1. If you're referring to professional audio engineers, most of them have at least basic understanding of the musical notation and the ones I know actually prefrer the spectrum division by octaves.
2. You may want to check out the Enhanced Spectrum Analyser component which serves more or less the same purpose but has the scale in Hz.

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Reply #96
It's not a matter of understanding music notation, since all that means is visual representation of a musical piece; sheet music, harmonies are vertical, melodies and rhythm horizontal. They are intervallic. They don't readily offer you the value of G#/Ab3 in Hertz. There's no way you can know G#/Ab3in hertz unless you have specifically memorized it and most people in this area don't do that. The issue is whether you're willing to calculate the hertz value of i.e some recurring peak, every time in your head, against C5 or whatever. Now, almost none of the tools of i.e a mixing engineer say anything about pitch. An equalizer or a harmonic distortion plugin does not give you bandwidths of notes. You work purely with hertz.

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Reply #97
There is no sense in making arguments. PleasantSound gave you right answers. If you ask for checking narrow peaks, just use Enhanced Spectrum component it is perfect for such purposes. But if you think more about proper tonality/tuning of your own compositions/productions, then notes division from Music Spectrum may be more important to you - it will allow you to easily see if some sounds are aligned to octaves or not. And what is confirmed since long time - properly tuned productions (with sounds aligned) are liked much more than the ones, which use just arbitrary chosen sounds for bass, main instruments, etc. There are many articles about it, especially if we talk about production of electronic/club music. So "notes view" is not useless for sound engineering. And it should never be treated as useless.

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Reply #98
Hi all ^^ just checking on here
dropping a quick appreciation for this great tool.
I've been using it for years for all that I play.
This is by far my favorite component in foobar. A great job done!
Can't imagine going without it.

I don't know if the original developer is still around or to be found (fismineur)
But would love to see a dynamics analyser from him. (analyser that plots True Peak minus Short term LUFS in a histogram manner)
I think he'd do a great job.
since this musical analyser is excellent & stands the test of time leaving nothing for me to be desired or improved.
Want to see/support more creations of this guy. cheers