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Reply #800
hello

this plugin is a TREAT! 

I'm coming to grips with the chimera fb2k.ipod but i'm confused about one thing.

it's probably quite simple but i cannot find its answer here on the thread. likely it's too simple.

some of my mp3s appear incorrectly tagged in my ipod classic. when i correct them in 2k everything seems alright. when i reload the media library they retain their correctness. however, when i eject the ipod and whizz through to the files in question they are still wrongly tagged.

I suppose this is something to do with multiple tags. i know i have managed to fix this before by clicking on all kinds of 'metadata' buttons and so on in fb2k but my random approach left me none the wiser as to what was actually going on. how can i fix my mistags?

sorry if this q has already come up.

also: has there ever been a newbie-faq for foo_dop published?

thanks for any help.

flowevd

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"Oh why do there have to be people like Frank?"

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Reply #801
But what if iTunes scans a file to estimate gapless which genuinely has no lead-in or lead-out? Does it perpetually rescan it every time you fire it up?
Is there an MP3 or AAC encoder with no encoder delay?
Anyway, seems like iTunes uses all three fields to decide whether to rescan or not. I don't know the rules: this isn't going to happen. Sorry.

Awesome plugin man!!!

I read through quite a bit of the topic, but I could not find what I was looking for, so please don't flame me for it.

Is there any way to change the way the iPod sorts?
For instance: A-Z now comes before 0-9. Is there any way of reversing this with your plugin?
Last time I heard, iTunes is what sorts the music in this manner, not the firmware of the iPod, so could your program help change this?
foo_dop does sort like that by default. However it causes some minor glitches on Classic/Nano 3G iPods. If you want foo_dop to regenerate the sort tables use the 'Rewrite iPod database' command.

hello

this plugin is a TREAT! 

I'm coming to grips with the chimera fb2k.ipod but i'm confused about one thing.

it's probably quite simple but i cannot find its answer here on the thread. likely it's too simple.

some of my mp3s appear incorrectly tagged in my ipod classic. when i correct them in 2k everything seems alright. when i reload the media library they retain their correctness. however, when i eject the ipod and whizz through to the files in question they are still wrongly tagged.

I suppose this is something to do with multiple tags. i know i have managed to fix this before by clicking on all kinds of 'metadata' buttons and so on in fb2k but my random approach left me none the wiser as to what was actually going on. how can i fix my mistags?
If you retagged the copy of the files that is on your iPod, you need to do a 'update metadata in iPod library' in the contextmenu. If you modified the tags on the copies on your computer you will need to resend them.
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Reply #802
And one other thing, which might not even be a problem your plugin caused: I wanted to check out Floola for iPod management, and when I started it up, it complained that my iPod is not set up correctly (after using it managed by foo_dop for weeks), and if I want Floola to set it up for me. I did not allow this, of course, but my iPod's DB was reset nevertheless (now this is probably a Floola bug). Luckily, foo_dop managed to rewrite the DB, and all's well now. Do you have an idea why Floola, and sometimes iTunes complains about my iPod Classic not even being initialised for use?
iTunes shouldn't complain if you've just been using foo_dop. But other 3rd party apps may cause issues. The rewrite command just reads (parses) the database and writes it out again. So if that fixed it floola must have written a bad db (iTunes/iPod perform some additional security checks when reading the DB which foo_dop doesn't care about).
Just an FYI: Floola now works correctly with iPod Classic and the DB generated by foo_dop. It was really their fault.
Life is Real...
(But not in audio :) )

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Reply #803
foo_dop does sort like that by default. However it causes some minor glitches on Classic/Nano 3G iPods. If you want foo_dop to regenerate the sort tables use the 'Rewrite iPod database' command.


Ahh, thanks for that musicmusic.
This is a great plugin! Beats using slow old iTunes!
Any ideas as to when these sorting changes on your to-do-list will be accomplished?

Also, should this plugin, while writing the database, do away with any gapless info.
It seems to me (may be something else, but just thought I'd ask the question) that foo_dop isn't passing along the info to the iPod that a certain album is gapless.
Any ideas????

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Reply #804
Also, should this plugin, while writing the database, do away with any gapless info.
It seems to me (may be something else, but just thought I'd ask the question) that foo_dop isn't passing along the info to the iPod that a certain album is gapless.
Any ideas????


Did you tick "determine gapless playback" in the foo_dop settings?

See: Tools->iPod manager->Tools

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Reply #805
Another small request:
Currently if you try to send tracks from a single file mp3+cue to your ipod you'll get a message saying "Failed to add file to iPod: Files with chapters are not currently supported by foo_dop"  But if you send a flac/ogg/tak/etc file that needs to be converted, it'll split and convert that without any problems.  I know I can just use a cue splitter and do it manually, but would it be possible to get an option to have foo_dop just go ahead and do a split+convert on it like it does with unsupported formats?  For use on my iPod I really don't care about transcoding quality loss.

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Reply #806
I've noticed another unusual bug... for some reason, when I scroll through the artists on my iPod and it pops up the alphabet selector with "A", "B" etc. on the screen, the alphabet stops with F... as if everything passed F begins with that letter.

Rewriting the iPod database doesn't seem to fix it.

Also, when I use "On the go" playlists after a database rewrite by foo_dop the playlist gets archived as "On the go 1" and a new empty OTG playlist is left. Is this fault of the iPod or foo_dop?

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Reply #807
I have a problem sending or syncing files to my iPod, using this component.

By using fb2k and neroAacEnc, I can convert all my .flac files to .m4a files offline just OK, and then send this preconverted library to my iPod 2G Nano, using foo_dop. I'd like to do this more elegantly, by using the "conversion on the fly" feature of foo_dop, and avoid a separate FLAC-->AAC conversion (and having essentially two libraries of the same music on my hard disk) altogether.

In Preferences / Tools / iPod Manager, I use the options

- Convert files which are in a format not supported by the iPod
- Command: C:\path\to\neroAacEnc -ignorelength -q 0.5 -if - -of %d
- Extension: m4a

But whenever I select a song and choose with the right mouse button "iPod/Send to iPod" or "iPod/Sync with iPod", I get an error message

"Failed to add file to iPod: Conversion failed - Unexpected process exit code 00000001h"

I seem to get the same error message whichever way I try to change the command line parameters.
What am I missing here? Something obvious, obviously. I'm sorry if this has come up in the thread already, but I just couldn't go through all 33 pages of it...

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Reply #808
I tried your command here, with version 1.1.34.2 of the Nero encoder, and it worked OK.

It should be obvious as to whether it is actually encoding or not, I would suspect not.

If there is a space in the path of the encoder, make sure you enclose the path in quotes (i.e. "C:\path\to\neroAacEnc" -ignorelength -q 0.5 -if - -of %d) Though it does seem to be executing something.
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Reply #809
Is there any plans to support audiobooks in m4b format?
It would be really great feature.

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Reply #810
Is there any plans to support audiobooks in m4b format?
It would be really great feature.
That is really more of an issue with fb2k not recognizing the m4b extension, and not foo_dop. You may want to pose your question to Peter in the fb2k support forum.
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Reply #811
Any ideas as to when these sorting changes on your to-do-list will be accomplished?
Which changes? I'm not sure what FAQ you read..

Also, should this plugin, while writing the database, do away with any gapless info.
It seems to me (may be something else, but just thought I'd ask the question) that foo_dop isn't passing along the info to the iPod that a certain album is gapless.
Any ideas????
Nope. Not sure what exactly you are referring too... If it's that "Part of a gapless album" thing, that just does something like disable crossfading when playing back in iTunes.

Another small request:
Currently if you try to send tracks from a single file mp3+cue to your ipod you'll get a message saying "Failed to add file to iPod: Files with chapters are not currently supported by foo_dop"  But if you send a flac/ogg/tak/etc file that needs to be converted, it'll split and convert that without any problems.  I know I can just use a cue splitter and do it manually, but would it be possible to get an option to have foo_dop just go ahead and do a split+convert on it like it does with unsupported formats?  For use on my iPod I really don't care about transcoding quality loss.
Maybe as an option on the advanced prefs page, otherwise it would be too unexpected.

I've noticed another unusual bug... for some reason, when I scroll through the artists on my iPod and it pops up the alphabet selector with "A", "B" etc. on the screen, the alphabet stops with F... as if everything passed F begins with that letter.
There's probably something different about one of the artists around the Fs (starting with a space, some symbol, "The ", "A " etc.)

Also, when I use "On the go" playlists after a database rewrite by foo_dop the playlist gets archived as "On the go 1" and a new empty OTG playlist is left. Is this fault of the iPod or foo_dop?
It's complicated. It's the same behaviour as iTunes.
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Reply #812
0.5.4 TEST released. This version is experimental, the main reason is I made some changes to artwork handling  which need testing on non-current iPod models (especially non-square artwork). Please see changelog for more info on changes.
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Reply #813
cool updates. i'll test the new version as soon as i get a chance.

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Reply #814
Here on 3G Nano the non-square artwork still have black bars, this looks like:
blackbar
picpicpic
picpicpic
picpicpic
blackbar
greybar

If I remember correctly, previously there wasn't that thin grey bar on bottom. But I'm glad you working on that - its the most irritating bug at the moment, almost impossible to get square artworks for every album.
That duplicate bug also happened to me some time ago so good that its gone too.
Thanks for sorting and OTG fix

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Reply #815
*edit* nevermind...answered my own question.

thanks for this awesome plugin!!

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Reply #816
greybar

Do you mean the reflection?

Yeh, non-square artwork needs to be cropped for 6G/Nano 3G, it will be fixed soon.
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Reply #817
I just tried out 0.5.4TEST on my 160gb Classic and got this "failed to add album art for track: gdiplus error"



EDIT: i have just finished testing with 0.5.3 and i didn't receive that gdiplus error.
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Reply #819
I just tried out 0.5.4TEST on my 160gb Classic and got this "failed to add album art for track: gdiplus error"

Do you get that for all artwork or just some? If some, can you tell me the dimensions of one of the images and/or upload it?

If it's all, I'll test on XP in case it only triggers with the older version of gdiplus.
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Reply #820
First of all thanks for this great plugin. Next I have one question about it. I am using one smart playlist (not sure if that was the name) made with iTunes back in the day that is  filled with tracks not played yet, so when it gets played in full length it disappears from the list. Could it be that when I use the option to send played tracks to audioscrobbler plugin it resets the played info and mess with the smart playlist?.
Sorry for my lack of English skills and thanks.

 

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Reply #821
No, I don't think that should cause that in itself. Can you describe the behaviour you are seeing in more detail? Is your smart playlist rule "play count is zero" ?
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Reply #822
From 0.5.4 TEST Changelog:
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added support for gapless data from Nero MP4 (AAC) files from recent Nero encoders :-)

I've been using this plugin for quite some time now and have been waiting for gapless support for Nero's AAC. I haven't really tested this yet, but thank you in advance for this. I truly appreciate the work you've put into this plugin musicmusic!

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Reply #823
No, I don't think that should cause that in itself. Can you describe the behaviour you are seeing in more detail? Is your smart playlist rule "play count is zero" ?

Well the thing is that I'm not quite sure because the playlist is limited to 25 items and I made it a long time ago (since I use your plugin  ), I'll investigate a bit more but I could be wrong so ignore this by now.

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Reply #824
0.5.5 TEST is now released. This now reads the required artwork formats directly from the iPod at run-time, and as a results obeys requests to crop images etc. So things should be much nicer on the Classic/Nano 3G. Artwork may also now work on 4G Photo/Color iPods over firewire, not 100% sure though. The drawback is that on XP this requires administrative privileges (Vista doesn't, don't ask me why). If there is any problem reading this data from the iPod, it will be logged in the Console, so please check that the first time you connect your iPod.

From 0.5.4 TEST Changelog:
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added support for gapless data from Nero MP4 (AAC) files from recent Nero encoders :-)

I've been using this plugin for quite some time now and have been waiting for gapless support for Nero's AAC. I haven't really tested this yet, but thank you in advance for this. I truly appreciate the work you've put into this plugin musicmusic!

Thanks! And you're welcome

There shouldn't be any problems there really, I tested and verified everything a fair bit. The actual encoder delay / padding values are now displayed in the browse iPod dialog now, in case of any problems. If you are gapless scanning tracks already on the iPod, I did observe some odd behaviour until the iPod was restarted.
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