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Reply #500 –
Hi there,

Firstly forgive me for I am a noob. Love foo dop looks like a cracking component, not had an ipod long and am fed up with itunes already.

Wondered if foo dop could support cue sheets? I have a lot of live sets, which I have created cue sheets for and foobar is great for, but when I come to sync my files with the ipod I get:-

"Reason: Files with chapters are not currently supported by foo_dop"

 

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Reply #501 –
Joined these board just beacause of you musicmusic

Your hard work is really appreciated by manys. 
Thank you for developing and for constantly updating this plugin. Album Art feature is brilliant. The automatic conversion of Replaygain, too.

However there is one thing which is really annoying me: I've foo_count (think it's the unofficial one) installed and everytime i snychronise my iPod the updated files a sent to the iPod anew, It'd be handy if you could make foo_pod ignoring those tags.
best regards

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Reply #502 –
This thing is really coming on in leaps and bounds now. Big kudos on all your hard work, mm. I'm nearly ready to upgrade from foo_pod. Just one thing that isn't happening for me. The custom TAGZ strings that I use in 0.8.3 / foo_pod  don't work properly in 0.9.x / foo_dop. I've copied and pasted them straight across They're shown here. First custom string is for title, 2nd for album

$if($stricmp($left(%_path%,7),g:\non-),[$if2(%title%,%_filename%)]!['('%__replaygain_track_gain%')'],[$if2(%title%,%_filename%)]['('%__replaygain_track_gain%')'])

$replace($if2(%album artist%,$if($stricmp($left(%artist%,4),The ),$substr(%artist%,5,17),$substr(%artist%,1,13))[[$right(%date%,2)]%album%]), ,)

It seems like foo_dop doesn't recognise tag fields that aren't directly used to fill the itunes database. Its happy with title / artist / album etc,

but not with 'album artist' 'path' 'replaygain' etc. 

Would it be much of a chore to allow foo_pod to be compliant across all the available tag field types used in TAGZ ? Or have I misunderstood the situation.

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Reply #503 –
Quote from: copperblue on
Works on early iPod Photo 60GB.
Brilliant stuff musicmusic, thank you!
Thanks for testing

Quote from: Scheisen2000 on
just checked new version with my nano 4GB and a few albums...
... works like a charm 

a lot of thanks, musicmusic
Thanks for testing also

Quote from: Samwise1130 on
Anyone noticed anything weird with their Ipod screen after using this component. I haven't isolated it yet--but I think I've noticed something.

Today was the first time I tried the ipod component--and when I was finished, I noticed that there was about 3 pixels all the way around the display that weren't being "lit" even through the screen was on. I've never noticed this before.

I'm not saying it is this components problem/fault...I will certainly try to track it down further--just seemed curious. Anyone else noticed this?
Well, iPods can do strange things. If you restart it (menu + middle button usually) it will probably clear up.

Quote from: elishnevsky on
musicmusic, AlbumArt works fine with Nano 2G! Thank you soooooo much
Again thanks for testing and you're welcome


Quote from: PokéParadox on
hmmm I am a bit confused about lyrics support... Does the iPod have to have a certain version firmware? (I have an iPod video)

Do the lyrics have to be formatted in a certain way? I have many songs with lyrics in the %lyrics% tag, but I can't seem to get any lyrics onto the iPod itself...
It depends on file format (MP3 vs MP4). Its explained on Notes page on wiki.

Quote from: Windy on
Hi there,

Firstly forgive me for I am a noob. Love foo dop looks like a cracking component, not had an ipod long and am fed up with itunes already.

Wondered if foo dop could support cue sheets? I have a lot of live sets, which I have created cue sheets for and foobar is great for, but when I come to sync my files with the ipod I get:-

"Reason: Files with chapters are not currently supported by foo_dop"

 

The reason is its quite complicated to actually handle. For single files split by a a cue sheet, I could send the file to the iPod and add chapters in the iPod's DB, but AFAIK they won't appear as separate tracks in the track lists as they would in foobar2000. Also this can't be done on older iPods. Other option is to find some way to send them as separate tracks. I don't know of a way they works partiulary great however.

Quote from: -jk on
Joined these board just beacause of you musicmusic

Your hard work is really appreciated by manys. 
Thank you for developing and for constantly updating this plugin. Album Art feature is brilliant. The automatic conversion of Replaygain, too.

However there is one thing which is really annoying me: I've foo_count (think it's the unofficial one) installed and everytime i snychronise my iPod the updated files a sent to the iPod anew, It'd be handy if you could make foo_pod ignoring those tags.
best regards
The problem is that the tag write modifies the file, so foo_dop can't match it to any of the tracks on the iPod so it gets resent.

When you send a track to the iPod foo_dop does also store the original location of the track but this information is not currently used. When I do enable the use of it I could add a "less strict" option for syncing so that files modified locally aren't transferred again (provided that the files haven't been moved etc.) This would help with your problem.

Quote from: clunesy on
This thing is really coming on in leaps and bounds now. Big kudos on all your hard work, mm. I'm nearly ready to upgrade from foo_pod. Just one thing that isn't happening for me. The custom TAGZ strings that I use in 0.8.3 / foo_pod  don't work properly in 0.9.x / foo_dop. I've copied and pasted them straight across They're shown here. First custom string is for title, 2nd for album

$if($stricmp($left(%_path%,7),g:\non-),[$if2(%title%,%_filename%)]!['('%__replaygain_track_gain%')'],[$if2(%title%,%_filename%)]['('%__replaygain_track_gain%')'])

$replace($if2(%album artist%,$if($stricmp($left(%artist%,4),The ),$substr(%artist%,5,17),$substr(%artist%,1,13))[[$right(%date%,2)]%album%]), ,)

It seems like foo_dop doesn't recognise tag fields that aren't directly used to fill the itunes database. Its happy with title / artist / album etc,

but not with 'album artist' 'path' 'replaygain' etc. 

Would it be much of a chore to allow foo_pod to be compliant across all the available tag field types used in TAGZ ? Or have I misunderstood the situation.
I think you have just fallen to the title formatting changes in 0.9. It added remapped fields amongst other changes.

Also i don't see it as relevant to your problem, but it formats the titles directly though the titleformat api so any funny components that add fields won't work here.
.

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Reply #504 –
I've noticed that some songs that I add to my 80gb Video iPod don't get the specified field renamings I give them. It is most noticable with the simple

%tracknumber% - %title%

rule I have for the "title" field.  Any idea why that might happen, and is there a way to make foo_dop refresh the field renamings without deleting and recopying my songs?

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Reply #505 –
It seems like chinstrap's problem is related. So is it possible to create a TAGZ string to achieve the same results ?

Title field -  Title followed by ! if the file is from a particular path followed by replaytrack gain level.

The album I like to use a few characters from the artist (stripping 'The') then the last two digits of the year, and then as much of the album name as will fit.  Since I listen to multiple albums I'm unfamiliar with I like to look up all the info in one field (artist/year/album). I find it easier to browse this way.

any ideas ?

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Reply #506 –
Album art support appears to work correctly on a 2g nano.  Only tested one album though.

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Reply #507 –
Only one file transfer to my iPod Nano 2G 2GB via foo_dop was enough to get me to uninstall i-Tunes.

Thank you for freeing us from corporate lock-in musicmusic! Great tool!
Wanna buy a monkey?
 

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Reply #508 –
I found foo_dop won't check the duplication properly, if I send the tracks already on ipod, I get two same tracks on my ipod after.
Isn't that normal, or because I miss something here?

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Reply #509 –
Quote from: clunesy on
It seems like chinstrap's problem is related. So is it possible to create a TAGZ string to achieve the same results ?

Title field -  Title followed by ! if the file is from a particular path followed by replaytrack gain level.

The album I like to use a few characters from the artist (stripping 'The') then the last two digits of the year, and then as much of the album name as will fit.  Since I listen to multiple albums I'm unfamiliar with I like to look up all the info in one field (artist/year/album). I find it easier to browse this way.

any ideas ?

Well looking at your string there are some problems.

In the first:
* %path% is not reliable here. It could be source path or path on the iPod.
* $if2(%title%,%_filename%) doesn't make sense. Look at the mapping of %title%.

In the second:
* It doesn't do what you say if %album artist% is present.
* The mapping of %album artist% again means it makes no sense.

I tried both strings and got expected results (the second string had to be modified though). If you are not then maybe check what version of foo_dop you are using and update. And check the replaygain tags are actually showing up in foobar (0.9).

Quote from: ChinStrap on
I've noticed that some songs that I add to my 80gb Video iPod don't get the specified field renamings I give them. It is most noticable with the simple

%tracknumber% - %title%

rule I have for the "title" field.  Any idea why that might happen

Seems ok here. Anything differentiating those files (were they transcoded by foo_dop?).

Quote from: ChinStrap on
is there a way to make foo_dop refresh the field renamings without deleting and recopying my songs?
Yes, there is some kind of 'reload metadata' command in the main menu that will do it.

Quote from: inverse on
I found foo_dop won't check the duplication properly, if I send the tracks already on ipod, I get two same tracks on my ipod after.
Isn't that normal, or because I miss something here?

Depends on command you are using. See notes page on wiki.
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Reply #510 –
great plugin, thanks for your hard work

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Reply #511 –
looks like a great plugin; having problems though. using 0.9.4.3 and 0.3.9 with a 4gb ipod nano, 1st generation.

basically, when i click "browse ipod" i get this:

Quote
Error reading iTunesDB : Generic win32 I/O error


on windows xp home. should i just get a newer version?

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Reply #512 –
Quote from: Thelonious Monk on
looks like a great plugin; having problems though. using 0.9.4.3 and 0.3.9 with a 4gb ipod nano, 1st generation.

basically, when i click "browse ipod" i get this:

Quote
Error reading iTunesDB : Generic win32 I/O error


on windows xp home. should i just get a newer version?
Well being generic, the error could mean a lot of things. New version won't make any difference. Check the Event Viewer to see if there is any matching message there.

Something else you can try is copying the iTunesDB file of the iPod yourself (using windows explorer), if it fails there would probably be a more specific error.
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Reply #513 –
MusicMusic - I'd just like to say thanks very much for your excellent plugin here. It has really enabled me to drop the junk that is iTunes! Seems to all work very well - album art included on 60gb 5G Ipod.

Just need to work out how to deal with podcasts in the new system.. can anyone help me with this? Say I download the MP3 or whatever from the podcast feed.. how would I tag it to have it identified as a podcast on the ipod? Thanks!

Also - say if I had a HDD full of FLAC and I wanted them as AAC on the iPod - is it possible to convert during SYNC without having to keep AAC on the PC? Then when I resync it wouldn't create dupes and know that this AAC file is linked to this FLAC file on the PC?

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Reply #514 –
Quote from: Murmur2k on
Just need to work out how to deal with podcasts in the new system.. can anyone help me with this? Say I download the MP3 or whatever from the podcast feed.. how would I tag it to have it identified as a podcast on the ipod? Thanks!

Itis not really possible using foo_dop

Quote from: Murmur2k on
Also - say if I had a HDD full of FLAC and I wanted them as AAC on the iPod - is it possible to convert during SYNC without having to keep AAC on the PC? Then when I resync it wouldn't create dupes and know that this AAC file is linked to this FLAC file on the PC?
Yes, you just need to download a CLI encoder (e.g. the nero one) and set it up in prefs. See wiki for more info. Yes it will remember what the source file was provided you don't move it, so it shouldn't be encoded again when you sync again.
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Reply #515 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
Itis not really possible using foo_dop

Too bad - I can survive by just putting them all in the same folder for now.

Quote from: musicmusic on
Yes, you just need to download a CLI encoder (e.g. the nero one) and set it up in prefs. See wiki for more info. Yes it will remember what the source file was provided you don't move it, so it shouldn't be encoded again when you sync again.

Thats cool -  I don't see anything in the wiki regarding the CLI stuff, or maybe I am not looking properly! Anyone able to point me in the right direction?
EDIT: Ignore that - I found this:

Configuration:

    *The command to execute must be entered in the “Command” field. Use %d for the destination file parameter E.g. LAME - %d
    *Enter the file extension of the target file format in the “Extension” field. E.g. MP3, MP4

Does this mean that it handles the conversion itself or do I define quality etc?

Thanks again!

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Reply #516 –
Well, let me sum up what you need to do:

* Download the Nero AAC encoder (or one of your choice)
* Fill in the command (stdin as encoder input, %d output) e.g.
Code: [Select]
neroAacEnc -if - -of %d
If neroAacEnc.exe isn't on the path, you can use a full path but be sure to enclose it in quotes.
* Fill in the extension e.g. MP4

You can run neroAacEnc -help from a command prompt to see the full options available (i.e. for quality). So yes, you control the quality through the command you specify.
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Reply #517 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
Well, let me sum up what you need to do:

* Download the Nero AAC encoder (or one of your choice)
* Fill in the command (stdin as encoder input, %d output) e.g.
Code: [Select]
neroAacEnc -if - -of %d
If neroAacEnc.exe isn't on the path, you can use a full path but be sure to enclose it in quotes.
* Fill in the extension e.g. MP4

You can run neroAacEnc -help from a command prompt to see the full options available (i.e. for quality). So yes, you control the quality through the command you specify.


Thanks for your time & the excellent DLL!

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Reply #518 –
Feature request: option to disable file info read, using only iTunesDB data.

I have 80Gb iPod Video with 3000-8000 songs on it. During file info read it warms up quite enough to make me worry about HDD integrity. I think "Update DB from files tags" will be enough for me.

Thanks in advance,
  Slotos.
Sharing delusions since 1991.

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Reply #519 –
I am now experiencing severe [start of track skipping] buffering issues on my early iPod Photo 60GB since enabling album art.
Some of the mp3 files have the album art embedded, and some of the mp3 files have the album art imported by foo_dop from ...\album folder\cover.jpg, size generally 300-300 pixels ie not huge.

Anyone else experiencing this?

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Reply #520 –
Quote from: Slotos on
Feature request: option to disable file info read, using only iTunesDB data.

I have 80Gb iPod Video with 3000-8000 songs on it. During file info read it warms up quite enough to make me worry about HDD integrity. I think "Update DB from files tags" will be enough for me.

Thanks in advance,
  Slotos.
Hi,
How it works is it keeps a cache of all metadata read on the iPod, and then loads the info from any new or changed files. So in theory it should be relatively fast if all files are in the cache, and it takes ~16 seconds on my 30GB iPod Video.

Now I can't just use the data in iTunesDB for a number of reasons. But what I have done is move the "have files changed" check onto foo_dop's side rather than foobar2000's side. This has reduced the time for scanning for me to ~7 seconds (again all files in cache). This also allows me to work around foobar's [a href='index.php?showtopic=50841']summer time problems[/a].

So try the next version when it's released; it should be faster.

Quote from: copperblue on
I am now experiencing severe [start of track skipping] buffering issues on my early iPod Photo 60GB since enabling album art.
Some of the mp3 files have the album art embedded, and some of the mp3 files have the album art imported by foo_dop from ...\album folder\cover.jpg, size generally 300-300 pixels ie not huge.

Anyone else experiencing this?

Hi,
Im not sure how foo_dop would cause this but let me ask some questions:
-Is it files with embedded artwork that skip or files that foo_dop set artwork for that skip?
-If its the latter did you try adding artwork using e.g. iTunes to see if it made a difference?
.

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Reply #521 –
I have a simple feature request. Wouldn't it be possible to add an option to enable "dual core support" when files are transcoded (using each core of a processor for a conversion instance) to increase the speed of transferring and syncing lossless music? That should make things quite a bit faster.

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Reply #522 –
Hey, musicmusic. I just wanted to thank you for this excellent plugin. Great work! I was tired of iTunes screwing everything up. This works flawlessly for me. I just upgraded my 60GB video iPod with a new 100GB hard drive and synced over 87GB with no problems; artwork & playlists included. Took quite awhile though, but that's to be expected with that much data. Can't thank you enough. Keep it up!
The same except different.

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Reply #523 –
Quote from: Woodenhead on
Hey, musicmusic. I just wanted to thank you for this excellent plugin. Great work! I was tired of iTunes screwing everything up. This works flawlessly for me. I just upgraded my 60GB video iPod with a new 100GB hard drive and synced over 87GB with no problems; artwork & playlists included. Took quite awhile though, but that's to be expected with that much data. Can't thank you enough. Keep it up!



Same here musicmusic, i don't have an ipod, but i have some friends that do and they absolutely love foo_dop. seems to work solidly for a few people that are complete noobs to foobar, but i set them up with a nice custom configuration that works well for their music needs and they have no complaints

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Reply #524 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
Quote from: copperblue on

I am now experiencing severe [start of track skipping] buffering issues on my early iPod Photo 60GB since enabling album art.
Some of the mp3 files have the album art embedded, and some of the mp3 files have the album art imported by foo_dop from ...\album folder\cover.jpg, size generally 300-300 pixels ie not huge.

Anyone else experiencing this?

Hi,
Im not sure how foo_dop would cause this but let me ask some questions:
-Is it files with embedded artwork that skip or files that foo_dop set artwork for that skip?
-If its the latter did you try adding artwork using e.g. iTunes to see if it made a difference?


Hmm. I have recently retagged my entire library in iTunes compatibility mode from Foobar, and it stripped out all the embedded album art (duh! I should have remembered that would happen :/ ), and my last backup was of the retagged files, so I have no way of knowing which of the files was what.

The good news is that following a restore and reload the iPod buffering issue is resolved.