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Support - (fb2k) / Re: Foobar seems to ignore LFE channel.
Last post by mzso -
My reply from yesterday was incomplete. I was certain foobar2000 loses LFE intentionally in some downmix but was confused yesterday as I tested the bundled "Downmix to stereo" DSP and it retained it. And I have 5.1 speaker setup - without DSPs there is no reason to lose the LFE channel as I have a speaker for it.

The default output will lose LFE if you have configured your speaker setup not to have .1 channel. For example if you have just stereo output or 4 channel surround setup.
XAudio2 output component uses OS channel mixer, it too intentionally removes LFE if you don't have that speaker.
WASAPI exclusive mode can play the LFE even if speakers are set into stereo mode if you actually have a speaker for it.
My 'WASAPI (shared)' component retains the LFE in its internal downmix.

In conclusion, if you have only stereo setup and you want to ensure LFE stays intact, use the downmix DSP.
It seems like most issues I run into is caused by Foobar trying to be smarter than it can be.

I don't seem to have wasapi outputs available though. Only "default" whatever that means. And I get "Unrecoverable playback error: Unsupported stream format: 48000 Hz / 24-bit / 6 channels (0x3F)" when I try to use exclusive mode.
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Support - (fb2k) / Re: [BUG?] Foobar fails to function with Windows Sonic, why?
Last post by paregistrase -
It might work better or more efficiently than other outputs on some setups. It lets OS do all the resampling and channel mixing. I also pass the original source sample rate along as much as possible so potentially for example Wine people can get as direct output to their native audio interfaces as possible. Current default WASAPI outputs will get resampled by foobar.

Indeed it does.
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Opening track for playback: "file.mp3"
XAudio2 initialized: 44100 Hz, 2 channels (FL FR)

No resampling at all.
Thanks to discover me this output plugin.
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MP3 - General / Re: Resurrecting/Preserving the Helix MP3 encoder
Last post by jaro1 -
It's indeed as you wrote. I also apologize for the "false alarm".
For viewing was used Isotope RX editor trial and when loading the file encoded via hmp3 the whole file is shifted 25ms to the right with the length being the same and thus the last 25ms was missing. I was misled by this. When converting the hmp3 file back to a wav file (as you wrote) the length and shift again corresponded to the original wav file. I didn't check this previously, sorry again and thank you! Somehow hmp3 is not recognized by this specific editor the same way as Lame mp3 is.. this misled me as well. Therefore, I did not see a possible problem at this point (Lame tag, gapless info etc.).
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Support - (fb2k) / ASIO output taskbar wiggles backwards and forwards when paused.
Last post by A_Man_Eating_Duck -
I'm using ASIO output with my Topping DAC and have noticed that when pausing a song the seekbar and Waveform Minibar (mod) will keep wiggling backwards and forwards. Sometimes it takes a few pauses to get the seekbar to "wiggle" but it tends to trigger more often than not. Changing the seekbar position while it paused and wiggling will stabilise the seekbar. Outside of the wiggling there doesn't seem to be any impact on playback.

I've attached a screen capture showing the issue.

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Core (2024-05-01 16:32:20 UTC)
    foobar2000 core 2.2 preview 2024-05-01
foo_benchmark (2018-07-18 20:55:48 UTC)
    Decoding Speed Test 1.2.5
foo_bitcompare (2022-11-09 00:13:02 UTC)
    Binary Comparator 2.3.2
foo_converter (2024-05-01 16:32:50 UTC)
    Converter 2.2 preview 2024-05-01
foo_convolve (2019-12-15 21:18:58 UTC)
    Impulse Response Convolver 0.3.3
foo_cover_utils (2024-03-02 16:17:22 UTC)
    Cover Utils 1.0
foo_dop (2020-02-02 17:28:14 UTC)
    iPod manager 0.7.2
foo_dsp_effect (2024-03-31 15:27:18 UTC)
    Effect DSP 0.50
foo_dsp_eq (2024-05-01 16:32:54 UTC)
    Equalizer 1.2.3
foo_dsp_meiercf (2018-01-06 10:27:18 UTC)
    Meier Crossfeed 1.1.1
foo_dsp_src_resampler (2023-03-16 01:05:56 UTC)
    SRC Resampler 1.0.14
foo_dsp_std (2024-05-01 16:32:56 UTC)
    Standard DSP Array 2.2 preview 2024-05-01
foo_facets (2011-08-18 20:06:16 UTC)
    Facets 1.0
foo_fileops (2024-05-01 16:33:00 UTC)
    File Operations 2.2 preview 2024-05-01
foo_freedb2 (2024-05-01 16:33:04 UTC)
    Online Tagger 0.10
foo_input_monkey (2023-03-22 21:34:46 UTC)
    Monkey's Audio Decoder 10.07
foo_input_std (2024-05-01 16:32:44 UTC)
    CD Audio Decoder 2.2 preview 2024-05-01
    FFmpeg Decoders 6.0
    FLAC Decoder 1.4.3
    Monkey's Audio Decoder 10.61
    Opus Decoder 1.5.2
    Standard Input Array 2.2 preview 2024-05-01
    WavPack Decoder 5.7.0
foo_musicbrainz (2023-02-23 11:53:04 UTC)
    MusicBrainz Tagger 0.5.0
foo_musicbrainz64 (2024-04-29 09:25:56 UTC)
    MusicBrainz64 2.5
foo_out_asio (2023-11-27 22:35:46 UTC)
    ASIO Output 2.2.2
foo_simplaylist (2011-08-18 20:01:36 UTC)
    SimPlaylist 1.0
foo_ui_std (2024-05-01 16:32:32 UTC)
    Album List 2.2 preview 2024-05-01
    Decoding Speed Test 2.2 preview 2024-05-01
    Default User Interface 2.2 preview 2024-05-01
    File Integrity Verifier 2.2 preview 2024-05-01
foo_unpack (2024-05-01 16:33:12 UTC)
    ZIP/GZIP/RAR/7-Zip Reader 2.2 preview 2024-05-01
foo_verifier (2023-04-17 02:43:48 UTC)
    File Integrity Verifier 1.4.3
foo_vis_milk2 (2024-02-19 09:51:42 UTC)
    MilkDrop 2 Visualisation 0.0.230-alpha
foo_wave_minibar_mod (2024-01-16 00:24:18 UTC)
    Waveform Minibar (mod) 1.2.58
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MP3 - General / Re: Resurrecting/Preserving the Helix MP3 encoder
Last post by Case -
I verified your settings, they do not cause any offset issues. And sounds like you also saw that foobar2000 decoder reports there is no offset.
You don't mention what you use to see the offset. I'm not familiar with all audio editors in the world, but for example Adobe Audition / Cool Edit / Audacity can't open MP3s with the gapless info taken into account. You need to decode the mp3 first with a proper decoder like I mentioned in the previous post.
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MP3 - General / Re: Resurrecting/Preserving the Helix MP3 encoder
Last post by jaro1 -
Thanks for the reply, Case. To verify the problem, i did it previously partially as you described it. I compared original wav file to files encoded  using FB2K converter with flac and lame encoders from free encoder pack, that is under your maintenance. The given flac and mp3 files have an exact length and "shift" relative to beginning of the file as original wav file. The file given by hmp3 encoder (i tried 4 different binaries from last month, all give relative to each other exact same length and "shift", individually with FB2K converter or as standalone cmd encoding) is consistently with every wav file i tried, shifted approx. 25ms "to the right", though the file has exact same length as original wav file. As i write, this shift is consistent with every file i tried, therefore i doubt that this is a result of some exotic combination. Parameters are "basic":
- for FB2K converter;  -F18500 -HF2 -V150 - %d
- standalone cmd; hmp3 input ouput -V150 -HF2 -F18500
So  relative to each other, these two files are exactly the same and relative to original wav file they have exact same length, but at the beginning there are approx. 25ms "added".

I tried previously the binary comparator as well. Interesting is, it reports 0 offset!.. and of course with differencies found, as lame and hmp3 cannot give same results.
May be, that the tag info causes this, but i won't speculate here. To be true, i can't imagine, this cannot be confirmed by somebody else. And yeah, the binary comparator doesn't detect this shift of 25ms, so this may have specific explanation.. feature by design or bug.    

Edit: i'd like to correct my previous reply, where i mentioned "samples" instead of miliseconds, apologize for that.. my mistake.
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3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Re: foo_midi (foobar2000 v2.0)
Last post by Air KEN -
v2.11.0.0-alpha1, 2024-05-11
foobar2000 v2.1.5/foobar2000 v2.2 preview 2024-05-01 x64

Unable to install. This message is appearing.

> Information
> Failed to load DLL: foo_midi.dll
> Reason: This component is missing a required dependency, or was made for different version of foobar2000.
Are you sure you have not mixed up the x86 and x64 version? Both versions work correctly as has been confirmed by other users.

@pqyt

Only this version (v2.11.0.0-alpha1, 2024-05-11).
There is no problem with earlier versions.
Confirmed on 3 PCs.

Thanks.