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FB2K playing on LAN port - is it possible???

Quote from: Case on
The network tester in your picture just shows that all pairs work. It doesn't check signal loss or anything else. The network cable works over long distances because the twisted pairs cancel any interference.
It wasnt network tester - just a cable tester to check pairs of wires. Then was used Fluke Networks Microscanner POE (MS-POE model) to check whole network, including new cable - I dont have my own, just got it from my friend, and everyting was quiet good.
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The audiophile knowledge regarding anything digital is unfortunately complete bogus. Audiophile network equipment is special only in their ability to make ignorant people spend excessive amounts of money. If you work or are familiar with technology you should know how simple it is to transmit bits losslessly over a cable. Here we are losslessly communicating over probably thousands of kilometers through internet. No audiophile networking gear involved. And it's much easier for your computer to send the audio data to your DAC's network port. The device will then buffer the data for N milliseconds and start playing. It doesn't even need to get a constant stream of bits, just enough every now and then not to empty its buffer. Also router is not involved in local area network playback. There is no routing, only super fast switching.

But I do hope you get the UPnP playback working. Though I'm curious about the decision that DSD512 only works over network and not through USB. USB2 has much more bandwidth than 100 Mbps network.
I totally agree with your opinion on this matter, starting from the fact that in digital networks it is important to transmit the level of "zero" or "one", and it is impossible to confuse them, and ending with the lack of understanding of why the quality of transmission via the LAN port of the DAC is higher than via USB, which is a question for the developers of HiFiMAN, cuz they just did it, but practice in the analog part shows that the materials from which the cables are made, and even the solder material in the connectors, significantly affect the sound, copper gives a dark sound, and more noble non-ferrous metals give a light and bright sound, therefore, a combination of wires from different metals is often used in audio cables. The use of purified noble metals in cables also affects the quality/speed of transmission in digital networks, surprisingly, but true. As for LAN vs USB in the case of HiFiMAN Serenade - I confirm, even the same track in DSD512 (LAN-ROON) vs PCM768 (USB-FB2K) format sounds different, and in the case of LAN the sound is better, although this may be due to the fact that ROON plays files without conversion, and FB2K still does something with the data.
But we've gotten off topic  :D

BTW I have some news:
I restored DAC connection on the LAN2 of my puter and just changed network settings, from bridge mode to ICS, and look at screenshots what I've got!
ROON playback is awesome in this mode, and DAC's detection on the network is momentary, including by FB2K, but FB2K playback still wont work, I played with all features and modes of SACD as well as with different audiocontainers (mp3, wav, flac, dsf, dff) with different sound quality (from 320 kbps upto DSD512), so I think that next steps should be to refine the FB2K configuration, or ask Peter questions  8)

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console output for MP3
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Re: Re: FB2K playing on LAN port - is it possible???

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significantly affect the sound, copper gives a dark sound, and more noble non-ferrous metals give a light and bright sound, therefore, a combination of wires from different metals is often used in audio cables.

Proof?
 

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Quote from: eEzZ on
significantly affect the sound, copper gives a dark sound, and more noble non-ferrous metals give a light and bright sound, therefore, a combination of wires from different metals is often used in audio cables.

Proof?
Too strange question! Loool  :D
What proofs do You need to believe to?
The only one true proof it's Your ears and Your personal experience, and nothing more!
All You need, it's a balanced A Class Amp with neutral sound, delta-sigma DAC DSD512 (You can use any on Your taste, based on AK4499 or ES9039), middle or high class headphones (HiFiMAN HE1000SE, Sennheiser HD 800S, HiFiMAN Susvara, Abyss AB-1266, and so on), wide range friquency sound tracks DSD512 (from Audiophile Analog Collection will be the best ones), and  finally four custom cable sets (interface, interconnect, and headphone), made of at least 7N cooper (OCC or OFC), silver, gold and mixed from all of them.
And next just listen to the same tracks with complete cable set made of the same metal, and be sure, it will be the best proof for You!
Of course, the best results will be achieved with cables made from single-core wire, but such cables are made only to order, or by yourself (I can post alot photos of such ones).