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Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: DJ-Egg on 2006-07-26 20:04:15
Winamp 5.25 Beta, build 868

Winamp 5.25 Beta Full (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0868_beta_full.exe)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Pro (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0868_beta_pro.exe) (asks for key during install)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Standard (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0868_beta_std.exe) (same as Full but no ML or viz)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Lite (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0868_beta_lite.exe)

More info here (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=251985).
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: amano on 2006-07-27 01:45:19
What's New

Winamp 5.25
* New: Unicode filename and title support
* New: M3U8 (Unicode) playlist support
* New: optional 24bit playback for many codecs (turn it on in Preferences->Playback)
* New: added ml views & playlists to Play-> submenu of main right click popup menu
* New: Replaygain support for MP3, M4A/AAC and OGG (enable in Prefs > Playback)
* New: [ml_pmp] Transcoding. Converts incompatible files on-the-fly.
* New: [ml_pmp] Playback now works for playsForSure and Creative NJB devices
* New: [ml_pmp] "Copy to Library" - transfer songs from any device to your local library
* New: [ml_pmp] video sync support for portables
* New: [ml_rg] replaygain scanner (access via Send To menu)
* New: [pmp_usb] USB Portable/Device Support
* Improved: 24bit EQ support
* Improved: fullscreen video seekbar
* Improved: ATF updates
* Improved: DC filter on spectral visualization, to remove bass bias
* Improved: preference cleanups
* Improved: faster PLS writing
* Improved: "Close Winamp" option after installation (after clicking 'Send')
* Improved: [gen_ff] better sample rate display
* Improved: [in_dshow] AVI metadata reading
* Improved: [in_dshow] better WAV support
* Improved: [in_mp3] 24bit MP3 playback, 64bit internal precision
* Improved: [in_mp3] streaming id3v2 support
* Improved: [in_mp3/in_mp4] 24bit AAC playback
* Improved: [in_wave] better outputs bits-per-sample choosing
* Improved: [ml_local] better non-english query support
* Improved: [ml_pmp] Only relevant columns shown in song views
* Improved: [ml_pmp] "Getting Metadata" now much faster
* Improved: [ml_pmp] devices can now be renamed
* Improved: [ml_pmp] added progress to portables tree item (no more switching views)
* Improved: [ml_pmp] metadata guessing based on filename
* Improved: [ml_pmp] improved GUI performance
* Improved: [pmp_ipod] support for iTunesLock
* Fixed: Burning files that require resampling
* Fixed: multiple copies of Winamp when opening too many files/folders from explorer
* Fixed: freeze when exiting via System Tray icon
* Fixed: Delay/hang when loading dead stream url's
* Fixed: crash when directdraw fails to create primary surface
* Fixed: [enc_lame] broken vbr presets
* Fixed: [enc_lame] 24bit input support
* Fixed: [gen_ff] layerfx not being redrawn on colortheme change
* Fixed: [gen_ff] gradient drawing glitch and crash
* Fixed: [gen_ff] custom color themes bug
* Fixed: [gen_jumpex] hang when suspending or hibernating
* Fixed: [in_cdda] cutoff of last few sectors
* Fixed: [in_dshow] crash when using DSP/EQ on anything bigger than 16bit stereo
* Fixed: [in_midi] truncated playback of some MIDI files
* Fixed: [in_mod] title display bug for module streams with no title
* Fixed: [in_mp3] crash when editing ID3 tags
* Fixed: [in_mp3] ID3v2 and ID3v1 Comment & Genre tags shared
* Fixed: [in_mp3] Inaccurate Time Remaining display for AAC files
* Fixed: [in_wm] DRM Video playback on certain hardware
* Fixed: [in_wm] freezeup when seeking a paused wma/wmv
* Fixed: [in_wm] Hang with dead WMV link in pledit in Repeat mode
* Fixed: [ml_disc] CD ripping / playlist generation bug
* Fixed: [ml_disc] CD Ripping view showing up when clicking on other ml views
* Fixed: [ml_online] Online Media bugfix (don't try to play NULL streams)
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] losing stream titles
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] sort by title
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] Send To from local media to ml playlist replaces instead of enqueues
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] Enqueue as default broken in left pane
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] Playlist title > rt-click > New Playlist = broken
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] tracklength bug
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] playlist paths issue
* Fixed: [ml_pmp] Transfers stalling after encountering a dupe
* Fixed: [out_ds] volume not hitting 0dB when using log or hybrid volume control
* Fixed: [pmp_ipod] Artist list on iPod not sorting "The" correctly
* Updated: [enc_lame] LAME 3.97b3
* Updated: [gen_ff] Freetype 2.2.1
* Updated: [gen_ff] libpng 1.2.12
* Updated: [gen_jumpex] Jump-to-File 0.97.7h
* Updated: [in_wave] libsndfile 1.0.16
* Updated: [libmp4v2] MPEG4IP mp4v2 1.5
* Updated: Sonic Engine 3.2.40.500


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[in_mp3] streaming id3v2 support


This bug was living for more than 5 years now. Good to see that it is fixed now.

ML sync support for USB players is a great thing, too. And good that they removed the predixis crap from the installer.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: ExUser on 2006-07-27 02:14:44
Anyone have a link to their changes to ATF?
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: benski on 2006-07-27 02:31:18
Anyone have a link to their changes to ATF?


Nothing too major. 

See: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?po...591#post1963591 (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?postid=1963591#post1963591)
(note, replace 5.24 with 5.25 in that post - 5.24 was an unplanned release)
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: audiomars on 2006-07-27 06:55:37
Way OT, but whats it with all the cats in the avatars in this post? 
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: pepoluan on 2006-07-27 08:30:51
@Audiomars: (OT) Cats like Winamp? Anyways, here's one dog for you

Back to topic:
Will Winamp support FLAC out-of-the-box?
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-27 09:07:57
Way OT, but whats it with all the cats in the avatars in this post? 
Some of us are governed by cats at home. Anyone who has cats knows, it's a home monarchy of cats. This is my cat/queen in my avatar. She governs with some arrogance, as you can see in the picture.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Prodoc on 2006-07-27 12:11:30
Way OT, but whats it with all the cats in the avatars in this post? 

Which cats?
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Borisz on 2006-07-27 12:27:09
Way OT, but whats it with all the cats in the avatars in this post? 

Cats are awesome. You best live with it, it's a fact.

Errrrr, does Winamp support id3v2 2.4 by now? I stopped updating it a while ago...

(edit: typo)
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: The Seeker on 2006-07-27 12:52:46
Way OT, but whats it with all the cats in the avatars in this post? 

I've just moved over to England from Australia, sadly leaving my cat Keira behind. My avatar features her, strutting in my Mum's backyard, letting everyone know who truly owns the place.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: audiomars on 2006-07-27 12:56:16
@ everyone: Thanks for the laughs  . Cats are fun, and I love dogs too. Used to have both as pets but now living in an apartment where I cannot have them.

@pepoluan: FLAC is not supported out the box.

@Borisz: It now reads ID3v2.4 and any tag updates on a file which already has ID3v2.4 is done in the same format ie, ID3v2.4. However, when creating new tags, it seems to be writing ID3v2.3 tags.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: The Seeker on 2006-07-27 12:59:24
@pepoluan: FLAC is not supported out the box.

I seem to remember reading on the Winamp forums not too long ago that FLAC support is being worked on and will be featured in a future version.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: ExUser on 2006-07-27 14:44:23
The cat in my avatar is my 15 year old, Felicia. She and I go way back. I've had cats in my avatar since before it was hip. 

Thanks for the link benski. I find it interesting to see how foobar2000's titleformatting syntax and ATF are diverging, when they both derive from the same source.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Maurits on 2006-07-27 14:51:47
@Borisz: It now reads ID3v2.4 and any tag updates on a file which already has ID3v2.4 is done in the same format ie, ID3v2.4. However, when creating new tags, it seems to be writing ID3v2.3 tags.

Is it fully ID3v2.4 compliant now?
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: jarsonic on 2006-07-27 18:40:49
I think Peter was the first one with a cat avatar, if my memory serves me correctly.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: sharp on 2006-07-27 18:50:10
finally unicode: 

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5659/wabetaqk5.jpg)
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: molnart on 2006-07-27 19:03:53
The cat in my avatar is my 15 year old, Felicia. She and I go way back. I've had cats in my avatar since before it was hip.


That's a cat !? I didn't know what what kind of animal that is, i thought it's a panther or something exotic. Btw. i have 5 cats plus possible kittens somewhere (we haven't found them yet, maybe they're dead already), but i do not follow the fashion

And a mod should move the cat related discussion to somewhere else
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: amano on 2006-07-27 20:10:59
Hmm. To (partly) answer the questions:

This was in the 5.20 changelog: * Improved: [in_mp3] preliminary id3v2.4 support
I think that suggests that it is partly done, but has still to be finished.

Unicode support was preliminarily introduced with 5.20 as well and seems to be finished now (except for the Media Library).

AFAIK Flac support is planned

EDIT: (removed incorrect assumption)
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: pepoluan on 2006-07-28 17:25:16
No FLAC support yet? Aww durn.

Well, in the meantime... there seems to be 2 FLAC input plugins, one FLAC's official, another one (earlier) has support for ML. Which one do you recommend to use?
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: goodnews on 2006-07-28 21:02:00
No FLAC support yet? Aww durn.

Well, in the meantime... there seems to be 2 FLAC input plugins, one FLAC's official, another one (earlier) has support for ML. Which one do you recommend to use?

The one with ML support is the latest version of FLAC 1.1.2 modified with ML support. It is fine and the one I recommend, but I sure wish FLAC support with ML was built into WinAMP by default so all my song listeners could download WinAMP without having to go find and install an add-on FLAC filter....

Anyway here is the link to the better FLAC input playback filter (ie. better than the "official one" which has no ML support). Note: The author also puts out a FLAC encoder too, which is also available separately on his site:

http://www.facquet.com/en/projects-4/winam...ownload-78.html (http://www.facquet.com/en/projects-4/winamp-plug-ins-9/flac-bundle-65/flac-input-67/download-78.html)
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: pepoluan on 2006-07-28 21:35:08
@goodnews: Thanks! I'll be using that, then.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: DARcode on 2006-07-30 08:12:08
I luv the Winamp interface, brilliant work, thanks for a new release.
When is bult-in APE tags support planned then please?

P.S.
Cats rule!
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: menno on 2006-08-02 09:38:59
Winamp Preferences -> Media Library -> CD Ripping -> Encoder

Select: MP4/aacPlus (HE-AAC) encoder v1.21 as Encoding Format

Then I see that:
MP4 Container Options is set to "Accurate Information" by default.

Maybe change the default to "Backwards Compatible"?
The "accurate" files can't be decoded by pure LC AAC decoders. iTunes does not play these files, iPod does not play these files, for example.



PS: The "Backwards Compatible" information is just as "accurate" as the "Accurate Information" anyway.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Will Fisher on 2006-08-02 16:26:25

No FLAC support yet? Aww durn.

Well, in the meantime... there seems to be 2 FLAC input plugins, one FLAC's official, another one (earlier) has support for ML. Which one do you recommend to use?

The one with ML support is the latest version of FLAC 1.1.2 modified with ML support. It is fine and the one I recommend, but I sure wish FLAC support with ML was built into WinAMP by default so all my song listeners could download WinAMP without having to go find and install an add-on FLAC filter....

Anyway here is the link to the better FLAC input playback filter (ie. better than the "official one" which has no ML support). Note: The author also puts out a FLAC encoder too, which is also available separately on his site:

http://www.facquet.com/en/projects-4/winam...ownload-78.html (http://www.facquet.com/en/projects-4/winamp-plug-ins-9/flac-bundle-65/flac-input-67/download-78.html)

We would like FLAC support, but although the FLAC library is under a BSD licence, the orginal FLAC plugin is under the GPL (and hence the updated one with ML support also has GPL'd code in it). We can't include GPL code in winamp for obvious reasons.

If the FLAC guys could put that code under the same BSD licence as the FLAC library, then we'd LOVE to include it in winamp. But until they do, we can't.

Will (winamp dev)
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: goodnews on 2006-08-02 16:35:50


No FLAC support yet? Aww durn.

Well, in the meantime... there seems to be 2 FLAC input plugins, one FLAC's official, another one (earlier) has support for ML. Which one do you recommend to use?

The one with ML support is the latest version of FLAC 1.1.2 modified with ML support. It is fine and the one I recommend, but I sure wish FLAC support with ML was built into WinAMP by default so all my song listeners could download WinAMP without having to go find and install an add-on FLAC filter....

Anyway here is the link to the better FLAC input playback filter (ie. better than the "official one" which has no ML support). Note: The author also puts out a FLAC encoder too, which is also available separately on his site:

http://www.facquet.com/en/projects-4/winam...ownload-78.html (http://www.facquet.com/en/projects-4/winamp-plug-ins-9/flac-bundle-65/flac-input-67/download-78.html)

We would like FLAC support, but although the FLAC library is under a BSD licence, the orginal FLAC plugin is under the GPL (and hence the updated one with ML support also has GPL'd code in it). We can't include GPL code in winamp for obvious reasons.

If the FLAC guys could put that code under the same BSD licence as the FLAC library, then we'd LOVE to include it in winamp. But until they do, we can't.

Will (winamp dev)

Thanks for this explanation about the problem with adding FLAC support to WinAmp.

Hopefully, Josh Coalson (the FLAC developer) will see this post and choose to contact you to change the license from GPL to BSD to meet your needs of including the FLAC plug-in built into WinAmp.

Thanks for your willingness to add the FLAC support to WinAmp that the many users have been asking for.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: pepoluan on 2006-08-02 17:45:02
Huh, GPL is a viral license. That's why I hate it so much.

Anyways, somewhile ago I stumbled to a site listing the various open-source and/or free licenses (incl. GPL, LGPL, original BSD, modified BSD, MIT, etc.) nicely listing their origins, their effects, etc. etc. etc. but I can't seem to find it again.

If anyone knows the URL, do post here, for reference so that future free/open-source developer will not use a wrong license for their projects.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Supacon on 2006-08-04 01:33:04
Boy, I'd really like to see proper cuesheet support built into Winamp.  Can one feasibly expect that within the lifespan of my children?
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: bidz on 2006-08-04 03:44:35
Boy, I'd really like to see proper cuesheet support built into Winamp.  Can one feasibly expect that within the lifespan of my children?


There are many plugins that offer very good cue sheet support for Winamp. Is it that difficult to download a plugin and install it? Like 1% of the user population probably needs it, so why ship it when there are several plugins that adds support for it?
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Supacon on 2006-08-04 03:50:27
I haven't looked into it recently, but the last time I looked, there was only one really hokey plugin that opened an alternative playlist for cuesheets.  I wasn't particularily fond of how it worked, and that was a big reason why I almost completely switched to foobar.  Would you be so kind as to provide me with names, and even links, if possible, to what you think are very good plugins for cuesheets?  I'd appreciate it.

Until foobar gets a CD+G player for karaoke, though, I'm stuck with winamp for some things.  Winamp is also a good video player, of course.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: QHOBBES 2.0 on 2006-08-04 04:23:35
try this http://winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=143011 (http://winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=143011) creates virtual files in the playlist
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Supacon on 2006-08-04 08:52:21
Hey, that works pretty good.  Much, much better than MP3Cue.  Thanks for the tip!
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: DJ-Egg on 2006-08-07 19:03:24
Winamp 5.25 Beta, build 801

Winamp 5.25 Beta Full (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0801_beta_full.exe)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Pro (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0801_beta_pro.exe) (asks for key during install)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Standard (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0801_beta_std.exe) (same as Full but no ML or viz)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Lite (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0801_beta_lite.exe)


Changelog (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?postid=2004166#post2004166)
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Hyperion on 2006-08-08 04:18:38
Hi, DJ-Egg:

Which is better,  in_mp3.dll(v3.6) OR in_!mpg123.dll(v109.2)?
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: menno on 2006-08-08 07:15:00
Previous beta crashes when calling

c:\blah\winamp.exe /UNREG

Which is done in the uninstaller

And in the new Beta that "accurate information" is still default for the MP4 HE AAC encoder.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Rasqual on 2006-08-08 10:15:15
Finally, Unicode support... I had believed this would never happen.
Are there plans for supporting APEv2 R/W one day?
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: amano on 2006-08-08 11:49:29
For now I think that they will try to get IDv2.4 support finished (whatever is missing there). But it is in the winamp wishlist, and it might be done at some point:
Quote
APE v2 tags support
Hopefully planned for a later release... we shall see
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Maurits on 2006-08-08 12:16:25
For now I think that they will try to get IDv2.4 support finished (whatever is missing there). But it is in the winamp wishlist, and it might be done at some point:

I believe ID3v2.4 is fully unicode and ready now but it is the Media Library that's still missing some unicode functionality. At least, that's what the thread on the Winamp support forum seems to suggest.

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=251985 (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=251985)
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: gaekwad2 on 2006-08-08 12:25:38
Hi, DJ-Egg:

Which is better,  in_mp3.dll(v3.6) OR in_!mpg123.dll(v109.2)?

If you want Replaygain or APE tag support: in_!mpg123.

Otherwise they should be about similar now.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: DJ-Egg on 2006-08-11 16:22:43
Winamp 5.25 Beta, build 812

Winamp 5.25 Beta Full (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0812_beta_full.exe)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Pro (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0812_beta_pro.exe) (asks for key during install)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Standard (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0812_beta_std.exe) (same as Full but no ML or viz)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Lite (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0812_beta_lite.exe)

Build 812 changelog (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?postid=2006961#post2006961)
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: pepoluan on 2006-08-11 17:45:15
Drats!  A new build juuuuuuuuuust after I finished downloading the previous build.

Oh well...
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: jcoalson on 2006-08-14 09:05:29



No FLAC support yet? Aww durn.

Well, in the meantime... there seems to be 2 FLAC input plugins, one FLAC's official, another one (earlier) has support for ML. Which one do you recommend to use?

The one with ML support is the latest version of FLAC 1.1.2 modified with ML support. It is fine and the one I recommend, but I sure wish FLAC support with ML was built into WinAMP by default so all my song listeners could download WinAMP without having to go find and install an add-on FLAC filter....

Anyway here is the link to the better FLAC input playback filter (ie. better than the "official one" which has no ML support). Note: The author also puts out a FLAC encoder too, which is also available separately on his site:

http://www.facquet.com/en/projects-4/winam...ownload-78.html (http://www.facquet.com/en/projects-4/winamp-plug-ins-9/flac-bundle-65/flac-input-67/download-78.html)

We would like FLAC support, but although the FLAC library is under a BSD licence, the orginal FLAC plugin is under the GPL (and hence the updated one with ML support also has GPL'd code in it). We can't include GPL code in winamp for obvious reasons.

If the FLAC guys could put that code under the same BSD licence as the FLAC library, then we'd LOVE to include it in winamp. But until they do, we can't.

Will (winamp dev)

Thanks for this explanation about the problem with adding FLAC support to WinAmp.

Hopefully, Josh Coalson (the FLAC developer) will see this post and choose to contact you to change the license from GPL to BSD to meet your needs of including the FLAC plug-in built into WinAmp.

just saw this thread... yep, I will try to get this resolved by the next release.

Josh
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: DJ-Egg on 2006-08-15 17:45:23
Winamp 5.25 Beta, build 825

Winamp 5.25 Beta Full (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0825_beta_full.exe)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Pro (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0825_beta_pro.exe) (asks for key during install)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Standard (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0825_beta_std.exe) (same as Full but no ML or viz)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Lite (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0825_beta_lite.exe)

changelog (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?postid=2010242#post2010242)
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: menno on 2006-08-15 20:24:39
I give up
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: amano on 2006-08-15 20:39:01
Meaning that "accurate" information is still the default?
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: benski on 2006-08-15 20:41:14
I give up


I'll get to it
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: menno on 2006-08-15 20:53:37

I give up


I'll get to it


Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: pepoluan on 2006-08-16 15:13:15
Aha!  That's a sign for me not to download the latest build yet...

Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: benski on 2006-08-17 20:40:27
Next build will have backwards compatible set by as always-enabled.

Additionally, the file info box (Alt+3) logic has been changed to read the extension audio object, if it's present, from the decoder config.  This will solve the problem where HE-AAC files were showing as AAC LC.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Kostarum Rex Persia on 2006-08-17 21:22:55
Additionally, the file info box (Alt+3) logic has been changed to read the extension audio object, if it's present, from the decoder config.  This will solve the problem where HE-AAC files were showing as AAC LC.


I really hope that you fix that annoying bug. I want to see that Winamp 5.25 Final play Nero HE-AAC files correctly. Currently, Winamp says that Nero HE-AAC file is actually LC-AAC.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: DJ-Egg on 2006-08-18 15:59:10
Build 834

Winamp 5.25 Beta Full (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0834_beta_full.exe)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Pro (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0834_beta_pro.exe) (asks for key during install)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Standard (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0834_beta_std.exe) (same as Full but no ML or viz)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Lite (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0834_beta_lite.exe)

* Fixed: [in_mp4] detection of HE AAC in file info box (Alt+3)
* Fixed: [enc_aacplus] more compatible HE AAC MP4 file creation
* New: "Close Winamp" option after installation (when clicking 'Send' on final User Information screen)

5.25 beta specific bug fixes:
* Fixed: [in_mp3] decoding glitch
* Fixed: installer typo fix (necessary = neccessary)
* Fixed: [in_mp4] burning with 24bit output enabled
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: DJ-Egg on 2006-08-22 19:26:53
Winamp 5.25 Beta, build 843

Winamp 5.25 Beta Full (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0843_beta_full.exe)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Pro (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0843_beta_pro.exe) (asks for key during install)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Standard (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0843_beta_std.exe) (same as Full but no ML or viz)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Lite (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0843_beta_lite.exe)

* Fixed: floating point audio decoding
* Fixed: unicode titles for streams (build 834-specific bug)
* Fixed: [in_mp3] icecast utf-8 stream title support
* Fixed: [in_mp3] lame vbr header reading (build 834-specific bug)
* Fixed: [ml_local] crash when deleting files (via watcher) before ml has loaded
* Improved: bumped up gain of spectral analyzer
* Improved: [in_mp4] better sample duration calculation when the decoder is outputting at a different samplerate than specified in the MP4 data
* Improved: [pmp_usb] metadata reading in background, general touch-ups
* Improved: [in_mp3] faster preparation during burning, transcoder (http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~wdhf2/transcoder) support
* New: [in_mp3] replaygain support for MP3 playback (enable in Prefs > Playback)
* New: [ml_rg] replaygain scanner (beta only, for now - access via Send To menu)
* Updated: [enc_lame] LAME 3.97b3

ReplayGain Analysis for ogg, aac/m4a will be in ml_rg in the next beta/final.

See the Notes/Known Issues (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=251985#notes) for further info.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: DARcode on 2006-08-22 20:27:47
The Winamp Transcoder version 2.0 (12th August 2006) is pretty stable with this latest beta  .
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: amano on 2006-08-22 20:38:35
And it is the first build that allows converting MP3 files into other formats.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Koopatrooper on 2006-08-22 21:58:15
ReplayGain scanner currently doesn't work with Ogg Vorbis files.

Best Winamp release so far, looking forward for final.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Sebastian Mares on 2006-08-22 22:23:34
The change only affected in_mp3 as you can see.

What kind of ReplayGain information is used? ID3v2 tag? APEv2 tag? LAME tag?
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: amano on 2006-08-22 22:29:20
AFAIK Winamp doesn't support APEv2 tags at all. And since it lets you add the replayGain value with only IDv1 tags in place...

that leaves the lame tags?
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: benski on 2006-08-22 23:05:49
The change only affected in_mp3 as you can see.

What kind of ReplayGain information is used? ID3v2 tag? APEv2 tag? LAME tag?



ID3v2
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: amano on 2006-08-23 00:40:42
But shouldn't Winamp add a IDv2 tag when applying the RG value? I have quite a lot of MP3s with just an IDv1 ta in place. For these files the RG value isn't added at all?
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: benski on 2006-08-23 02:07:20
But shouldn't Winamp add a IDv2 tag when applying the RG value? I have quite a lot of MP3s with just an IDv1 ta in place. For these files the RG value isn't added at all?


Winamp will add an ID3v2 tag, but it will only contain the TXXX/replaygain_* entries.  The metadata stuff will 'fall back' on the ID3v1 tag if the information is not contained in ID3v2.  If you have ID3v2 writing disabled, it  won't write the replaygain info.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Maurits on 2006-08-23 10:03:17

The change only affected in_mp3 as you can see.

What kind of ReplayGain information is used? ID3v2 tag? APEv2 tag? LAME tag?



ID3v2

Forgive me if I'm incorrect, I'm new to this ReplayGain stuff.

Doesn't it make more sense to at least _read_ the Lame RG-values? As far as I know all modern Lame encoders store the value anyhow and given the popularity of Lame in the near future most MP3's will have this RG-values already stored inside.

Couldn't you use a routine where Winamp uses the Lame RG-values if there are no RG-values in ID3v2 or maybe even copy them to the ID3v2 field. That way you use info that's already there and don't have to scan probably the majority of a users MP3 files again.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: odyssey on 2006-08-23 12:16:40
How about replaygain for wma files??
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Maurits on 2006-08-24 10:43:58
Would someone with a Winamp forum account please post my previous post in their development thread?
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=...threadid=251985 (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=251985)

The Winamp forum won't let me post, one is only allowed to post, pm or e-mail once one is fully registered. Since the registration is broken I can not let anyone know because you have to be registered to let them know registration is broken etc. etc.
I can not post anything although I can login, oddly enough.
I can not register with a new account because the forum will say the e-mail address is already used.
I can not reactivate my account because the forum says the url is invalid (an url the forum itself gives me either through e-mail or the website itself).
I can not use any link in e-mails the forum sends me because they are either said to be over 24 hours old (which they're not) or used too recently.
I can not use the account but I can change the password for it. Hurray 
Aaargh, this is driving me mad, I've been trying to get a simple account for over a week now. I feel like I'm in  a Kafka novel.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: amano on 2006-08-24 12:07:38
I think that there is no need to post it there since benski is monitoring this thread as well.

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Winamp will add an ID3v2 tag, but it will only contain the TXXX/replaygain_* entries. The metadata stuff will 'fall back' on the ID3v1 tag if the information is not contained in ID3v2. If you have ID3v2 writing disabled, it won't write the replaygain info.


Hmm. What happens with an IDv1 tagged file with only the TXXX/replaygain_* entry in the IDv2 tag if you add the IDv2 song metadata. Will the TXXX/replaygain_* entry continue to exist?

And will it continue to exist, if the song metadata (artist...) is removed (the IDv2 checkbox unchecked in the file info)?
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: DJ-Egg on 2006-08-24 17:25:17
No. As the RG info is stored in ID3v2, if you remove the ID3v2 tag then you also remove the RG info. Next build will show the (uneditable) Track & Album Gain values under the ID3v2 section of the File Info box.

Also, the TXXX/replaygain_* entry won't be overwritten when copying from ID3v1 to v2 (if RG was previously applied but there was no other metadata in the ID3v2 tag).


@Maurits

I could be wrong here, but I think it's only lame.exe which auto adds RG to the lame header, not lame_enc.dll, which is fine if you're using the commandline version (or EAC), but Winamp (and most other software/rippers) use lame_enc. Though I do kinda agree that it would be nice to read RG info from the Lame header if it exists, heh.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: DJ-Egg on 2006-08-28 19:29:27
Winamp 5.25 Beta, build 857

Winamp 5.25 Beta Full (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0857_beta_full.exe)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Pro (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0857_beta_pro.exe) (asks for key during install)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Standard (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0857_beta_std.exe) (same as Full but no ML or viz)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Lite (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0857_beta_lite.exe)

* Fixed: crash when aacPlusDecoder.w5s isn't present
* Fixed: Sonic Engine install under Win98SE/ME
* Fixed: ReplayGain preamp resets to -6.0 dB (b843-specific)
* Fixed: [in_mp3] %bitrate% & time display in pledit for mp3 streams (5.25-specific)
* Fixed: ReplayGain info not being saved for files with id3v1 tags only (b843-specific)
* Fixed: [in_wm] freeze on seek with right keyboard cursor (5.25-specific)
* Fixed: [ml_disc] auto add ripped files to mldb (5.25-specific)
* Fixed: [ml_rg] crash on unsupported formats (b843-specific)
* Fixed: [ml_rg] Abort button now working (b843-specific)
* Improved: fixes for video plugin detection
* Improved: [in_mp3] minor id3v2.4 tag reading fixes
* Improved: [in_mod] 24bit/surround/stereo options moved to Prefs > Playback
* Improved: [in_mp3] increased streaming info box size
* New: aac/m4a/ogg replaygain support
* New: [in_mp3] aac/mp3 replaygain in alt+3 dialog box
* New: [ml_pmp] auto-transcoding for incompatible formats
* New: [ml_playlists] added 'playlist entry' and 'read extended info' to menus
* Updated: Sonic Burning/Ripping Library (requires reboot)
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: BoNeLeSS on 2006-08-28 21:15:51
Thank you very much. Winamp is again my default audio player 
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: ilikedirtthe2nd on 2006-08-29 01:31:16
Just tested replaygain scanner speed in build 857 on one mp3 album. It reaches about 35x realtime while foobar2000 scans at 90x.

Nonetheless very nice to see full replaygain support in a "mainstream" app like Winamp! (I think replaygains "fault" that keeps it from reaching greater publicity is it's complexity - most people don't get the concept at first glance - sorry for beeing off-topic here...)
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: Koopatrooper on 2006-08-29 11:26:37
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Nonetheless very nice to see full replaygain support in a "mainstream" app like Winamp!

Do you really think Winamp is mainstream? Ok the player is very popular, but I guess many  Winamp users are advanced users, because Winamp is very flexible, you have tons of options.

I would say mainstream is WMP, RealPlayer etc, players with less options and and a simple GUI.

Winamp's ReplayGain just works fine, the new RG info in the tag editor is very useful. RG infos for Ogg Vorbis files are written in the vorbis comment field, finally I don't have to use vorbisgain.exe anymore.
Title: Winamp 5.25 beta preview
Post by: DJ-Egg on 2006-09-01 17:49:07
Winamp 5.25 Beta, build 868

Winamp 5.25 Beta Full (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0868_beta_full.exe)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Pro (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0868_beta_pro.exe) (asks for key during install)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Standard (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0868_beta_std.exe) (same as Full but no ML or viz)
Winamp 5.25 Beta Lite (http://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/beta/winamp525_0868_beta_lite.exe)

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Changes between b857 and b868

* New: [ml_pmp] automatically sync your ml playlists with your portable device
* New: Core Media Library Components subcategory in the installer options
* Improved: [in_mp3] faster mp3 replay gain scanning
* Improved: Filenames now shown for Gen & ML plugins in Prefs
* Fixed: [ml_playlists] non-english filenames fix
* Fixed: [ml_disc] CD view right-click menu options
* Fixed: [ml_pmp] various fixes based on crash reports
* Fixed: [in_mp3] "Size: x bytes" data missing in File Info box
* Fixed: [in_mp4] msvcp71.dll dependency
* Fixed: a few reported typos in prefs
* Fixed: duplicate media library entries bug (unfortunately your old duplicate entries will still exist)

more info (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?postid=2020901#post2020901)

(note the separately available in_vorbis.dll which fixes replaygain scan for .ogg files)