Well, I have to say that I've been waiting for something like this for quite some time. Not only are the hotkeys easy to use (once you get used to them), but there's no need to even interface with a gui. This I like to an extent, but it can be difficult to use the hotkeys when multi-tasking...
As far as I'm concerned, though, having a player like this is very nice. I have a pro audio sound card, and so far nothing has supported it's 24bit word length. Nice to have that natively included
Just a few suggestions:
1) I'm in favor of the slideable progress bar that's been suggested
2) Any idea if an eq will be included in the future? I'd LOVE a high-quality (30+ band) eq.
3) On Win2k/XP machines, the sound is not allowed to reach the hardware directly as it was in earlier versions of Windows and DOS. Instead, it is forced to work it's way from the application through the Microsoft WDM wave driver, then the Windows kernel mixer, and then through the WDM driver to it's final destination at the hardware. This incorporates at least two steps that can be removed by creating a bypass to the audio hardware. I'm not sure if this bypass has to be created at the driver level or not, but it's worth looking into. If you're curious, take a look at
this (http://www.echoaudio.com/Downloads/Drivers/PC/Echo24/Echo24%20readme%206.05.pdf) and see what I'm talking about. I mean, sure my sound card will support it because of Echo's drivers, but wouldn't other users benefit from the same technique?
4) I can forsee one problem dealing with the DSP plugins. As it is, you select which DSP plugins you'd like to be active, and then you go to a different dialogue to configure them. For instance, I have one window where I enable the resampler, and then another one where I actually control and configure that resapling plugin. What happens if I have a dozen plugins? Wouldn't it be easier to be able to right-click (or double-click) on the plugin names to bring up a separate window with the config dialogue box in it?
5) I know that you're not looking for a fancy layout, but I really don't think that "play" "stop" and such buttons would really hurt anything Also, it would be fantastic to have enabled options, such as the preamp and repeat, displayed in the taskbar menu, so that you could check/uncheck them from there.
6) The ability to skip to the previously played track would be fantastic.
I don't have any other immediate suggestions, but I'm eagerly watching this player! Keep up the great work!
edit: Sorry, I didn't notice the main forum before I posted this. Could an admin please move this to the main fb2k forum? Thanks
EQ ist death ist uninteresting
(sorry, I don't see why there is use of something like that in F2k)
EQ ist death ist uninteresting
(sorry, I don't see why there is use of something like that in F2k)
If you have nonlinear hardware, an EQ is your only bet of getting acceptable quality at all...
ofcourse, but persuade Peter to insert that into foobar2k
Make Peter feel sorry for you first.. hahaha
If any eq would go in it'd be parametric luxury eq.
hehehe..
btw.
clarify what you mean Garf, that sounds like bollox.
EQ ist linear aswell acc. to the DSP terminology.
I think Garf is saying that if your hardware is too trebbly or too boomy, then you need to adjust it down or up in areas to achieve a flatter frequency response.
or move the speakers and rebuild the room
it can be difficult to use the hotkeys when multi-tasking...
It would be great to add some global shortcut (shortcut that can be used in all application).
For example
Ctrl+Alt+Right : next track
Ctrl+Alt+Left : previous track
Ctrl+Alt+Pg up : Volume up
Ctrl+Alt+Pg down : Volume down
Ctrl+Alt+Up : Play/Pause
....
This can be done with the RegisterHotKey function.
SuperEQ DSP is planned.
How about .cue-file support?
So that when loading a .cue file each track will show up as a separate playlist entry!
Or you could extend the .m3u8-format so it works similar to Monkey Audio's APL-files.
What is database.foo used for? I noticed it keeps growing and contains paths to all files that I've added to the playlist, but removing items from the playlist does not remove them from this file...
.cue support is on todo list, it should be relatively easy to implement.
database.foo stores all metadata read from your files, for fast playlist operations (so adding the same files to playlist again is fast because tags don't need to be read from files). also, database lets you sort by artist/album/etc. proper "database search" feature will come later.
I've got few more playlist related suggestions:
-adding multiple playlists at once from add dialog
-storing drive relative paths inside m3u8, e.g '\...' or '.\...'
And also would be great to have main menu accessible through systray icon (cascaded, maybe).
it would be nice if "z" would do the same as "Y" as "z" and "y" are exchanged on the german keyboard layout. thanks
it would be nice if "z" would do the same as "Y" as "z" and "y" are exchanged on the german keyboard layout
Get v0.26
You can define custom shortcuts now.
Feature request: a box in the configuration menu somewhere, specifying the # of seconds to skip forward/backward with the left-right arrows. (Default is 10 seconds, but I would prefer something closer to 5)
And a question: is the crossfeed plugin based on Trelane's v0.53 code or his v0.60 code? Or are you working with him to get something newer/better than his Winamp plugin?
This program's amazing, it improves every time I refresh the forum. I'm predicting total world domination by the end of the month (by Peter or by foobar2000, I'm not sure which... maybe Peter's cat?).
And a question: is the crossfeed plugin based on Trelane's v0.53 code or his v0.60 code? Or are you working with him to get something newer/better than his Winamp plugin?
It's actually based on newer code which hasn't been released yet.
Feature request: a box in the configuration menu somewhere, specifying the # of seconds to skip forward/backward with the left-right arrows. (Default is 10 seconds, but I would prefer something closer to 5)
noted.
Advanced Playlist-like feature: handle folders as folders in the playlist itself (see Apollo for example: http://www.hut.fi/~hylinen/apollo/) (http://www.hut.fi/~hylinen/apollo/))
Feature request: Joystick support. This comes bundled with XMMS, and i think there are winamp plugins as well.
When you have a minimalist, out of the way player (minimized, etc) and you are working in another application, there is nothing better, than using that old gamepad lying around to control the music. You don't need to refocus back to the app, or define extremely complex "global keys", you go take the gamepad, push a button, or move the direction keys, and thats it.
Normally y axis is used for volume control, x axis for prev track next track, and the different buttons for stop, play, (a button that changes x/y function when pressed) etc. This should be configurable of course.
In Xfree86 window managers with multiple desktops have been very common in a long time, windows users are recently tasting this (either using litestep, or the built multidesktop in the newer windows versions) this inmediatly shows the annoyance of going back to the app you want to control all the time. Even moving the mouse to touch a button is annoying, keyboard shortcut is good unless you are working in another app, the only device that is never used unless you are in a game (where you normally wont play your own music at the same time) is precisely the forgotten gamepad/joystick always lying idle when not in use.
Because i have worked with it using XMMS, let me tell you i know how good it is to have this alternate controlling method and you will discover it to be better than any gui or crazy key combination can ever be!
Feature request: Joystick support. This comes bundled with XMMS, and i think there are winamp plugins as well.
When you have a minimalist, out of the way player (minimized, etc) and you are working in another application, there is nothing better, than using that old gamepad lying around to control the music. You don't need to refocus back to the app, or define extremely complex "global keys", you go take the gamepad, push a button, or move the direction keys, and thats it.
Normally y axis is used for volume control, x axis for prev track next track, and the different buttons for stop, play, (a button that changes x/y function when pressed) etc. This should be configurable of course.
In Xfree86 window managers with multiple desktops have been very common in a long time, windows users are recently tasting this (either using litestep, or the built multidesktop in the newer windows versions) this inmediatly shows the annoyance of going back to the app you want to control all the time. Even moving the mouse to touch a button is annoying, keyboard shortcut is good unless you are working in another app, the only device that is never used unless you are in a game (where you normally wont play your own music at the same time) is precisely the forgotten gamepad/joystick always lying idle when not in use.
Because i have worked with it using XMMS, let me tell you i know how good it is to have this alternate controlling method and you will discover it to be better than any gui or crazy key combination can ever be!
I personally don't think Foobar needs this kind of features. It just makes it too bloated.
Nevertheless I would very much like it if there would be a simple 'pause-between-songs' option (in seconds, 1-2 decimals) for MiniDisc Recording... It has no high priority for me, Winamp also does the job, but I simply like Foobar more already
Bug in 0.26b?? I cannot get Foobar to save its window size and position
i have my own point of view on "joystick control" (see: out_ds_joy.dll if you can still find it), perhaps i'll expose "player command interface" to components so someone else can implement it after the SDK is out.
I'd would like very much if I could configure the player to inmediately play a song added via command line (launched via mirc script for example) without removing the playlist already loaded (and continuing with the next song in the playlist when finished) . Also are there any way to comunicate with the player from other program (mirc script thing also)
I like very much the player thanks B)
Regarding the playlist:
When one song ends and the next starts in minimized mode, the playlist is scrolled when opened again. The new song's position is just over the top of the visible part of the playlist. This happens even when the playlist is centered around the currently playing file before minimizing the window.
When a song ends and you have moved the cursor in the playlist window by for example clicking on another song, it continues on the one under the cursor rather than the one comeng after the song previously played. This may be a "feature", but I don't like it. Better would be to indicate the currently playing song with a different color or font or something else except the list cursor. This would make it possible to look at other songs file info without skipping ahead in the playlist.
Regarding UI:
I'd like to have a toolbar with buttons for the basic operations like play, stop, forward and a combined progressbar/seekbar that shows the position of the currently playing song and which can be used to skip to an arbitrary time in the song. (Unlike the current seeking with arrow keys in steps of X seconds)
Better would be to indicate the currently playing song with a different color or font or something else except the list cursor.
'simple' solution would be to add '<-' or 'playing' at the end of the song in the playlist, that would help to locate the position of the song curently playing, 2nd even better option would be to add for example double-click on the song name at the bottom of ui and that would select the song curently playing.
- global hotkey for seeking
- associate supported formats with foobar
- configurable tooltip for systray icon (instead of title that doesn't fit on the screen anyway). Average bitrate display would be nice as tooltip.
- back function
I think this really is a killer app, very nice job zZzZzZz. This is already the player of my choice now.
Not really of importance, but are you thinking of .cda support (just curious) ?
First of all: I like this program very much. But ther is one very very small feature I miss: linux version. Is it planned anytime soon.
First of all: I like this program very much. But ther is one very very small feature I miss: linux version. Is it planned anytime soon.
I don't think so, since it already is win2k/xp only...
I'm pretty sure that it's just going to be for Win2K/XP, because zZzZzZz has already made clear the apparently large task it would be to now port it to another OS. BTW, is there any sort of release schedule for fb2k?
Bug in 0.26b?? I cannot get Foobar to save its window size and position
I can't either - maybe it isn't saved anywhere, it is just temporary.
peter, can you make it save to foobar2000.cfg?
Also, adding manifest resource would be nice for XP users (I know you don't like it, but it is very easy to implement and doesn't mess up anything).
And if he doesn't like it, there's no reason for him to add it. Really, i must say hate this crap too...
Yeah, personally I use Luna theme but I also don't like the *new style* in programs.
Taskbar looks good and that's why I use it.
Yeah, personally I use Luna theme but I also don't like the *new style* in programs.
Taskbar looks good and that's why I use it.
I added personally made manifest to it - looks very nice to me.
It's OK.
But why window size isn't saved?
feature request/bug report: with id3v1, track numbers are shown like this: "TRACK=1", while with Vorbis comments they're shown like this: "TRACKNUMBER=2".
I don't use any other sorts of comments so I can't help you any further, hope you don't mind, zZzZzZz, : )
feature request/bug report: with id3v1, track numbers are shown like this: "TRACK=1", while with Vorbis comments they're shown like this: "TRACKNUMBER=2".
known. this is more of a problem with compatibility between APE tag specs and Vorbis tag specs.
feature request/bug report: with id3v1, track numbers are shown like this: "TRACK=1", while with Vorbis comments they're shown like this: "TRACKNUMBER=2".
known. this is more of a problem with compatibility between APE tag specs and Vorbis tag specs.
In the mean time I can use
$if2($num(%tracknumber%,2),$num(%track%,2))
as a workaround. : )
edit: $num($if(%track%,%track%,%tracknumber%),2) seems better, dunno why the default string has tracknumber and track in the other order though.
Request: An "open file direct" button, that opens a file, clears all other playlist entries and plays that file (like Winamp's eject button). Would be good to have this option in the tray right click context menu too.
Very promising player, keep up the great work!
"Repeat one" and "Follow cursor" seem to be broken in 0.27b.
fixed in 0.27c
Possible bug in 0:27c: While holding the "seek time forward" (right arrow) down, it seems to randomly reset back to 0:00 before reaching the end of the track.
(BTW, that was the quickest update to a request i've ever seen, thanks!)
with what format ?
Well it's done it with an few MP3's and a FLAC so far (CBR 192 MP3), I can't pinpoint the bug to any particular file, i'll do some tests and report any specific patterns.
Oh, also, I just found a possible bug in the "open file" option, it clears the playlist and puts the opened file into it, but it plays the previous file played rather than the newly opened one.
*edit* I'm sure someone has asked this already, but is there any plans to add keyboard alt shortcuts to control the drop down menu's in foobar?
sounds like you have "repeat one" enabled.
You were right, I had repeat one enabled. Kind of confusing as my goal was to repeat the one file i'd added.
"open" with "repeat one" fixed in current build, too lazy to post it now.
alt shortcuts are on todo list.
still not sure about "reset to zero" problem, but it's more likely an effect of holding cursor key and hitting end of file.
I am assuming that you hate wma with a passion. I personally try to avoid it as a plague. But will that format ever be supported? I have a few rare live songs that I downloaded which is wma format, it would be nice that foobar can play them.
No way with WMA!
Well, sorting revisited...
Sorting by tracknumber sorts again by filename (0.27c).
'Sort by...' %track% performs explorer style sorting: 1,10,11...19,2,20...29,3 (not that usefull, IMHO).
zZzZzZz,
Just out of curiosity: Why no id3v2 support?
libid3 takes 100k of exe space just to read bloody tags. ultimate bloatware. and i never figured how to use it anyway (*cough* "tag --removeid3v2 --force ape2 *.mp3").
id3v2 support might come in form of an optional "component" later, tag reading stuff is exposed to cross-dll component interface.
Some UT ImpulseTrackers have some extra minutes in foobar than in Winamp (using lastest X-Fixer's build).
Also, when you skip foward or backward with arrows, playback starts from the begining.
mod seeking fixed in current internal (was broken in 0.27c)
I have a Microsoft Multimedia Natural keyboard, so it has these little like "pause/play, stop, forward, backward" buttons and volume control on it. I can use the keys fine under WinAMP, but they don't work under FooBar2000. If these would work under Foobar, I would most likely end up switching. Even if they didn't work "out of the box" and I had to configure them myself, I would be happy.
Logitech also makes similiar keyboards, so you probably want them to work as well.
I don't know if that was suggested previously (too lazy to read all the thread), but a total playlist time could be nice when i make my audio cd compilation playlist
Once again nice work ZzZzZz
Soren
Peter, please, make it remember window size and postion - it would be really nice if I hadn't to set it back to my preference.
Everything else (if we remember that you don't like caps) looks OK, playback quality is excellent.
Peter, please, make it remember window size and postion - it would be really nice if I hadn't to set it back to my preference.
Everything else (if we remember that you don't like caps) looks OK, playback quality is excellent.
I agree on this one. It's quite annoying this way...
There really are three things I'd like to see in Foobar2000, everything else is just fine:
* Remember window size and position
* Simple buttons for primary functions (play, pause, stop, next, open)
* 'Advanced playlist' (like explained in previous post(s) )
Keep up the good work
Is there any hope of this getting the COM treatment so I could write apps to automate it without having to use a real language?
Global Hotkeys are working! Sweet! The only other functionality I could want would be a progress bar or a seek function. For those long live performaces. Most excelent.
Peter, please, make it remember window size and postion - it would be really nice if I hadn't to set it back to my preference.
Everything else (if we remember that you don't like caps) looks OK, playback quality is excellent.
I agree on this one. It's quite annoying this way...
There really are three things I'd like to see in Foobar2000, everything else is just fine:
* Remember window size and position
* Simple buttons for primary functions (play, pause, stop, next, open)
* 'Advanced playlist' (like explained in previous post(s) )
Keep up the good work
I agree on all points. Then it will be The Über Player.
I would also love an album list type display. The album list plugin for winamp is very usefull.
I sliding bar for the song position would also be nice, as well as the usual set of stop/play/pause buttons.
Shoutcast support? I dont use it much but i know thats whats keeping a few of my friends using Foobar2k all the time
No way with WMA!
Can you let zZzZzZz answer this one. I dont think you are the author and please respect other's opinion. We all pretty much know the format sucked, but sometimes that is the only choice you got if you choose to download some streamed songs. And I would love to see it work on foobar. Anyways I don't see the reason against it, unless it is pain in the ass to implement.
An option for writing the output to disk would be nice.
Just found foobar, Great! Already thinking to replace winamp2, but
- any info/plans on commandline options (more/other than just filename)?
- haven't gotten global keys to work yet, any hints?
- monkey's audio .ape files are broken here in .29a (think they did work in .27)
Thanks.
Haven't gotten global keys to work yet, any hints?
I've had luck with control + shift + alt combinations.
control + numbers of keypad working fine here B)
Is there any hope of this getting the COM treatment so I could write apps to automate it without having to use a real language?
I vote for this one too
Request for modification of searching:
I really like Winamp's substring searching. I can just type the first few letters of the artist's name, a space, and a few letters from the song title, and I find what I'm looking for in the playlist in about 1 second. Plus, the search window only shows songs matching the current search string, which makes picking the right song even faster and easier.
Could you implement this kind of substring searching for foobar2000?
hi peter
nice work with this player (small and fast).
My question is: can you implement something like the out_ds.dll (crossfade functionality) for winamp in this player?
thx for your work
mr. pi
The player is very nice
Is something like channel upmixing output via configurable matrix feasible (like the one found in the open source ac3 directshow filter found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ac3filter/ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ac3filter/) )?
So basicly I'd like to know if (in the far distant future) 2 ch to 5 ch output is feasible...
- monkey's audio .ape files are broken here in .29a (think they did work in .27)
Download foo_ape.zip again.
edit: Only thing is that foobar crashes when you play a .ape file and press a seek key (v0.29d). It's ok in v0.29b.
Request for modification of searching:
I really like Winamp's substring searching. I can just type the first few letters of the artist's name, a space, and a few letters from the song title, and I find what I'm looking for in the playlist in about 1 second. Plus, the search window only shows songs matching the current search string, which makes picking the right song even faster and easier.
Could you implement this kind of substring searching for foobar2000?
uhm, ok, noted
Request for modification of searching:
I really like Winamp's substring searching. I can just type the first few letters of the artist's name, a space, and a few letters from the song title, and I find what I'm looking for in the playlist in about 1 second. Plus, the search window only shows songs matching the current search string, which makes picking the right song even faster and easier.
Could you implement this kind of substring searching for foobar2000?
uhm, ok, noted
Er, I'm sorry, upon re-reading my post it looks like I not explain myself very clearly.
What I meant was: If I type in, for example, "to eec" in Winamp's search, Winamp runs a search through its playlist in the form "*to* AND *eec*", or something of that nature, and finds the song "Tool - Ticks & Leeches".
And not only that, but while I'm typing my search string, Winamp actively filters the list of matching songs in a floating window. So if I type "beat", I get a scrolling window of just my Beatles music. "beat white" narrows the choices down to the White Album. It makes it very easy for me to see just the songs of interest, or perhaps see how to strategically narrow my search using the fewest possible keystrokes.
I'm sure you've used the Winamp search feature before, so I'm explaining it for the benefit of others, and because I'm trying to highlight the benefits of using this type of search as opposed to the type currently implemented in Foobar2000.
yeah, i understood you after reading second time, had to edit myself
Any plans for adding MIDI support? That's currently the only reason why I still have WA2 installed on my computer, as it's the only player I've found (so far) that can force a GM, GS, or XG reset before each file.
Any plans for ASIO support?
ASIO support: can you give a single valid reason why ASIO support would be actually useful ?
MIDI support: that would need a software synth, using MIDI hardware is not an option because it would break too many things (and yes, i do miss it, i actually have XG hardware in my main dev machine).
'k about the MIDI, I guess Winamp gets to live for another few days on my machine.
re ASIO support: sure, I just want to get the bits out of my machine unaltered by Windows. I have much better D-to-A and preamp capability outside my machine than on my soundcard.
I am enjoying Foobar a great deal. I just got the NERO MP4 enabled version. I would love to have in_MP4 supported. I wouldn't have to have WA2 installed at all then
Thanks,
David
i didn't read this whole thread to see if someone already requested this, sorry to repeat if they did.
I'd like to have two 'shuffle' switches, one for albums and one for songs. That way, I can use a huge playlist with all my stuff, and switch fb2k to play a random album from start to finish, or play random songs from a random album until the album is finished. And obviously once an album plays completely through it is removed from the queue unless I stop and restart play. I hope that makes some sort of sense, and might be possible to include in fb2k
Or if anyone knows how to do this with winamp I would be most appreciative thanks.
i didn't read this whole thread to see if someone already requested this, sorry to repeat if they did.
I'd like to have two 'shuffle' switches, one for albums and one for songs. That way, I can use a huge playlist with all my stuff, and switch fb2k to play a random album from start to finish, or play random songs from a random album until the album is finished. And obviously once an album plays completely through it is removed from the queue unless I stop and restart play. I hope that makes some sort of sense, and might be possible to include in fb2k
Or if anyone knows how to do this with winamp I would be most appreciative thanks.
For that, Peter should make a playlist first which enables recognizing seperate albums (folders). I think it would cost a lot of time, but it sure as hell works great...
I second the ASIO support capability. I just dun trust microsoft KMixer. Moreover I just sick of things/apps working around it or god knows what M$ will do with the KMixer in the future. ASIO access the hardware directly & has been around for quite a while, seems the best choice to me.
I think that the "dual-shuffle" method suggested by floyd is fantastic. I'm thinking exactly the same thing as floyd; why not have the ability to load an entire HDD's worth of music, by album, into a huge playlist, playing through each album
1)Sequentially as they appear in the playlist
2)Shuffling each song, independent of album
3)Shuffling each album, and playing through the entire album sequentially
3)Shuffling each album, and playing through the entire album randomly
Perhaps this could at least be added to the "to do" list? :-)
my friend has a 250 cd jukebox that does exactly these types of shuffling, and I guess hanging out there I've been spoiled by it i've been searching for a winamp plugin to do this, but it seems like while every other useless function under the sun has been implemented, not this...
my friend has a 250 cd jukebox that does exactly these types of shuffling, and I guess hanging out there I've been spoiled by it i've been searching for a winamp plugin to do this, but it seems like while every other useless function under the sun has been implemented, not this...
One thing I've learned about Winamp2: EVERYTHING's been implemented for it
A Google search yielded this neat toy: Album List for Winamp (http://www.littlesandpit.com/albumlist/home.html). Indirectly, it'll do what you're asking it to do, that is, play albums randomly, but play them all the way through.
It makes a second playlist window, but with only one entry per album. Double-click an album, and it'll load it into the playlist. You can have it shuffle the order of the albums in its window, thereby randomly playing albums, but playing the album from start to finish.
Thanks for bringing up this feature request, because now I have yet another Winamp2 toy to play with!
Is there a fully integrated mail client for Winamp2 yet?
The Law of Software Envelopment (http://static.userland.com/userLandDiscussArchive/msg018352.html)
The Law of Software Envelopment
Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can.
- Jamie Zawinski
What about a version of foobar for windows 98, I have windows 98 run in my pc and I can't try or enjoy your player ZzZzZzZzZz
What about a version of foobar for windows 98, I have windows 98 run in my pc and I can't try or enjoy your player ZzZzZzZzZz
Ditto... also, could someone please consolidate the Foobar-related threads? >_<
I think a good feature would be a slight modification to the search tool. Instead of having it just highlight the entries found, make it create a new 'playlist' of the found items. Maybe have the search playlists stay up until closed, so the user could create several 'playlists' out of their main playlist. Somewhat like the current Jump feature in Winamp, but better.
Oh, and why no previous track key?
Well, this is a suggestions thread, so I figured I would throw some out there for Peter to chew on:
1) How about nixing Restore, Move, etc from the right click in the System Tray? Most of my other apps down there don't have those options, and people are pretty familiar with double clicking on the icon to bring something back. I would definately keep an "Exit" option though.
2) You've got "Preferences" and "Open" in the right click menu. How about an option for "Enqueue"?
3) We can configure what is displayed in the tool tip for the system tray, so can we get a variable for "time" that would show the elapsed time or remaining time based on how we set it in preferences?
4) I've heard it asked before, but streaming support would be nifty. We've got a radio stream here, and I'd love to use Foobar with it.
5) Oh - yeah - how about fast forward and rewind? Maybe seek to time?
I can't think of anything else at the moment, so I'll stop asking there... for now .
- Agent 86
Aside from having the possibility of redirecting the output to disk, I'd like the possibility of disabling the hard limiter, and displaying realtime peak levels of the song being played, in order to detect clipping, doesn't need to be graphically.
my friend has a 250 cd jukebox that does exactly these types of shuffling, and I guess hanging out there I've been spoiled by it i've been searching for a winamp plugin to do this, but it seems like while every other useless function under the sun has been implemented, not this...
One thing I've learned about Winamp2: EVERYTHING's been implemented for it
A Google search yielded this neat toy: Album List for Winamp (http://www.littlesandpit.com/albumlist/home.html). Indirectly, it'll do what you're asking it to do, that is, play albums randomly, but play them all the way through.
It makes a second playlist window, but with only one entry per album. Double-click an album, and it'll load it into the playlist. You can have it shuffle the order of the albums in its window, thereby randomly playing albums, but playing the album from start to finish.
Thanks for bringing up this feature request, because now I have yet another Winamp2 toy to play with!
I already tried album list, unfortunately. album list doesn't do it.. i couldn't make it proceed to the next album after one is done. and you have to manually shuffle the albums every time. it's close, and could be the solution, but for me right now its not
First of all, this player is now my player of choice (quality first ), Congratulations for this great job !
I'd like to have :
- An equalizer like Super Eq (this is already planned : great !!!)
- The ablility to have some profiles (for instance, one profile for headphones with Eq off and DSP crossfeed on, and another for speakers with Eq on an crossfeed off), it should be awsome !
Cheers,
Marc
An equalizer like Super Eq (this is already planned : great !!!)
you mean like the Super Eq that is already part of the fb2k installation package AND separately available on the fb2k page (http://foobar2000.hydrogenaudio.org) under "additional DSPs." (foo_dsp_extra.zip)?
i'm all for profiles though!
Hi ssamadhi97
I dont't know exactly about Super EQ
zZzZzZz said (in the first page of this thread):
SuperEQ DSP is planned.
actually i'm not sure about that either.. maybe i should just stop talking out of my ..you know where.
Hi ssamadhi97
I dont't know exactly about Super EQ
zZzZzZz said (in the first page of this thread):
SuperEQ DSP is planned.
Yeah, it was planned... until it was put into the release a version or two ago (meaning, oh, about a day-and-a-half ago).
The Equalizer you can reach from the Preferences menu choice (second from the bottom as of v0.3) is SuperEQ. Just remember to enable it on the DSP Manager.
Yeah, it was planned... until it was put into the release a version or two ago
yay, I win X-)
Feature Req: Ability to edit ReplayGain tags in Vorbis files? There are times (although few and far between) that I want to alter those.
it would be good if the user was able to change the background color or even put a picture there.
great work, like foobar, but i would like an inline search that filters the list, and *sometimes* it takes too long to load up with a large playlist loaded (i have 1300 mp3s).
Also, it reports all my lame 3.92+ 192 cbr mp3s as VBR. Its not the first program to do this, but its wrong.. They have id3v2 & apev2. They are not corrupt.. All other files are reported fine.
yeah, write me a function that determines if an mp3 file is VBR or CBR without checking VBR headers and scanning entire file and i'll fix that.
If I'm not mistaken, it should be possible to get this information (that LAME files are VBR or CBR) by reading info from the LAME tag. Not sure how much of a hassle it would be to implement that, but it might provide for some interesting possibilities elsewhere too.
Yes the lame header has the info in the file. (I dont know how its stored in the file, but encspot displays it as "VBR Method" is "cbr" when you click on lame header details.)
Edit: i think this explains the lame header specs:
http://users.belgacom.net/gc247244/extra/tag.html (http://users.belgacom.net/gc247244/extra/tag.html)
Edit2 (dont see point in new post): ok dibrom... B) i thought they were probably old (hence the "think")
Btw, specifications for the latest LAME tag revision can be found here:
http://gabriel.mp3-tech.org/mp3infotag.html (http://gabriel.mp3-tech.org/mp3infotag.html)
If a function was implemented to read this tag for the previously mentioned purpose, it might be interesting to also add functionality to allow for displaying the preset used (if available) somewhere, since I think that overall that's a little more relevant than bitrate information (at least to me).
Edit: @musicmusic
The link you provided is for the older tag revision
yeah, write me a function that determines if an mp3 file is VBR or CBR without checking VBR headers and scanning entire file and i'll fix that.
i see deaf people here too...
It's just plain impossible,
but you could add an option to scan files once,
then write length to the database,
like you did with Winamp3 replaygain.
What about having the 'J-key' functionality of winamp2 together with the ALT-LEFT-MOUSE of winamp3:
'J' displays all songs that match the word(s) typed in the edit box, and ALT-LEFT-MOUSE enqueues these song(s) as next to be played
vha
Why not a foobar version for win9x???
Why not a foobar version for win9x???
"Windows 9x/ME" and "high quality / stability" are mutually exclusive.
So true about the reason why this puppys not ported to Win9X.
However, Peter, like a sizable portion of us have already stated, we're gonna need a good interface for this player to be widely accepted. Even the biggest audio purists need a nice Winamp-like interface to easily navigate with.
Since you seem to dislike Winamp 3 so much, why not just make this player a continuation of sorts for Winamp 2? You could add support for Winamp 2 skins (highly unlikely I know) We do need a nice interface though, no vis plugins or such.
This is how you could maintain one sourcecode for Win9x/ME and 2k/XP:
You could use your own String class which converts between charsets
and outputs WCHAR_T* or CHAR* on demand.
And use ifs around all Unicode functions.
Only tricky part is to write conversion tables.
And Win9x systems are stable, if software used is memory and resource leak free.
That's why Win98 SE haven't crashed here even once
just few simple suggestions (to help me moving from wa2 )
in playlist window I want to see
- numbers
- highlighting of the playing entry
I think it's a good idea to save in playlist file
- current position
- state of shuffle, repeat etc
and I still miss shortcuts for shortcuts
- for prev
- for file info
One important thing for future is the ability in the core of the engine to play several tracks at the same time and to drive them separately (DSP, level, channel?). After that we have the opportunity to develop a new kind of player with a high quality of sound . At this level of the development, I don’t think it’s the right time to talk about how we could use it (if somebody need it, I can bring few example). Because I don’t know the source code, I don’t know exactly the “price” of it (maybe nothing), but I know that sometimes it is very difficult to do it later if it’s not anticipated.
Another important thing (but at the interface level, so…) is the possibility to use the drag/drop FROM foobar (it’s already work TO foobar). Because I have understood that the target of FB2K is to offer the best player in terms of quality it takes the way of the “best of breed” in his category. The more natural way to do it (at least for the user) is the cut/past or drag/drop from the application. For example, I have a good track list in my in my FB2K B) and I would like to put it in my CD burner program . Currently I have to search these tracks one by one (with explorer for example (w00t) ) and to drag and drop it in my CD program . Another people tried to do it thru the diskwriter…
So if concerned persons read this, if he/they could let me know what is possible…
Many thanks
how about Play/Pause for Actions as Keyboard Shortcuts
Heya...
thanx for this great player!
I would like to know if its possible to control foobar2k from an other application.
I would like to make a front-end in a alternate win shell i use that controls foobar
and shows title and time, etc.. something simmilar those wa front-ends..
Is this possible?
Not now, but is probably on his TODO list...
Since the other topic i replied is closed ill ask here..
I allready have gappless output so that not what i was reffering to..
Im curious if there will be some sort of crossfading option in foobar2k
simalar like the dsound plugin for wa2...
I would like this much.. i use it @ home for my mp3 jukebox...
Not now, but is probably on his TODO list...
You can do some of the stuff, (play, pause etc.) winspector Spy tells you the WM_Command codes.. But I don't know about getting title etc. (you could read the window title).
Anyway, heres a small list of WM_COMMAND codes.
FOOBAR_PAUSE = 40044
FOOBAR_STOP = 40010
FOOBAR_PLAY = 40009
FOOBAR_NEXT = 40011
FOOBAR_SHUFFLE = 40014
FOOBAR_REPEAT = 40015
FOOBAR_REPEATONE = 40042
FOOBAR_STOPAFTERCURRENT = 40045
FOOBAR_FOLLOWCURSOR = 40047
FOOBAR_ALWAYSONTOP = 40041
FOOBAR_OPENFILE = 40049
FOOBAR_ADDDIRECTORY = 40035
FOOBAR_ADDFILES = 40037
FOOBAR_ADDPLAYLIST = 40038
FOOBAR_SEARCH = 40040
Peter,
First, thanks for letting fb2k out into the world! It's working great for me. Two requests for enhancement: 1) Would it possible for the program to remember where in the playlist it's at between sessions? When I need to shut it down to install a newer release it would be nice to pick up where I left off. 2) Could you make the cursor marking the current track a little more obvious, or maybe a command to go to the currently playing song in the playlist? With a long playlist it can be difficult to see where you are.
Thanks,
--Nathan
1. noted, 2. doubleclick on status bar at the bottom of the window to locate currently played file.
I think it's a good idea to save in playlist file
- current position
- state of shuffle, repeat etc
and other suggestions from that post are useful, imho
if i wanted to read every single bloody post people write, i'd have to spend all my time reading forums instead of writing code. sorry,
1. noted, 2. doubleclick on status bar at the bottom of the window to locate currently played file.
1. Great, thanks for considering it.
2. works for me
--Nathan
One suggestion regarding the UI....
I personaly prefer that the titlebar format would be customizable or at least have the following format:
Foobar2000-0.3c (Currently playing song)
instead of:
Currently playing song [foobar2000 v0.3c]
I just think it's pretier and more coherent with all other applicatins that exist out there...
You could also make the song name in the titlebar customizable...
Good Work! B)
It should be left untouched or made configurable. (tagz?)
With present setting you know what's played.
It is consistent with Winamp2.
One small thing about assigning stuff to keys, i can't seem to bind to combinations such as win + z (windows key),
as i'm used to in winamp with a plugin called (global hotkeys) could this be fixed in future vesions ?
peter ?
Ablilty to send currently playing info to current window. ie function like Titlebar for winamp which displays the currently playing song & artist on the top right hand corner of your current window.
If posible MP4 and AAC support and also a diffrent tag editor for MPC - like in Winamp I mean chosing tagtype - APE 1.0 APE 2.0 ID3 1.1
Maybe plugin to display covers from mp3 ogg tags... and lirycs too But this is not very needable (not such high prioryty like AAC and MP4 support)
I have many mixed/concert albums in mp3 format. So I wish to have gapless mp3 playing (not crossfading). Now I'm using mp3splice winamp output plug-in and it works very well. Will such feature be included in Foobar? This is the only reason why I use winamp yet.
what would be nice also is to have scrolling titles in the windows taskbar, of course with a naming sheme that i can define in the display options.
I have many mixed/concert albums in mp3 format. So I wish to have gapless mp3 playing (not crossfading). Now I'm using mp3splice winamp output plug-in and it works very well. Will such feature be included in Foobar? This is the only reason why I use winamp yet.
oups sry. this post was nonsence. i thought u were talking about ogg
because they play gapless
No, it isn't ogg. It's really possible to make mp3 playing gapless. I have use mp3splice for a long time. And there is no album where i can hear any gaps or clicks between tracks. I even don't know where one tracks ends and another begins.
Here is the plug-in: MP3-splicer for Winamp (http://www.pyramidedata.dk/mp3splice.html).
(Sorry for my English)
It would be nice to have the ability to bookmark the current position so that playing can be resumed after rebooting.
Oh yeah, jako77!
That is what i always think about when rebooting...
another suggestion:
we need an option to remove the number in front of the track names (read out tag).
i think the number is not useful for anything if you have something like 3000 files in your playlist. I don't need to know that some Tracy Chapman song is is number 2675 in my playlist. we have a serach option and the playlist is sorted from a-z.
would be nice
a/b repeat would be cool too
no software player has that
There is no dithering (noise shaping) for 16bit...
I can't hear the difference but i still want have the best!
edit: sorry, it seems that i've mistaken about dithering...
1) Maybe use www.foobar.tk or www.foobar2K.tk or www.foobar2000.tk
2) Better GUI is good idea
3) Maybe make translation files?
4) Discwriter plugin is good idea.
5) Maybe make an automatic updater for Foobar2K?
we need an option to remove the number in front of the track names (read out tag).
I agree (If you talking about the playlist numbers)
Either that, or move it into display options, for manipulation
Edit: Whilst Im at it, why does foobar stop playing if I forward past the end of the current track? (Whilst it will play the ext track if I wait for it to get there.)
we need an option to remove the number in front of the track names (read out tag).
(If you talking about the playlist numbers)
jupp :-)
we need an option to remove the number in front of the track names (read out tag).
(If you talking about the playlist numbers)
jupp :-)
A good idea! Nearly all my files have track numbers in filenames
Basic RIFF wave sampler block support, for looping. Not sure how to handle multiple loops... perhaps paying attention to the loop count, changing the loop flow after each loop has run its course. Not like I have anything that would use that, or plan to design any loops, just extending the basic idea. Original idea is just for a single loop. Example of multi loop:
loop 1: from 16384 to 32768, repeat 5 times
loop 2: from 24576 to 27000, repeat 2 times
Stream plays normally, then jumps back 5 times when it hits the end of loop 1, then jumps back 2 times each time it hits the end of loop 2.
... Come to think of it, I'd be better off implementing this myself. Considering how I only want single infinite loops, though as I was typing this, I thought of a (partial?) solution for multiple loops, since the sampler chunk appears to support up to 4294967296 loop blocks, even if the RIFF file format does not support that much data. I tend to go nuts with simple ideas sometimes.
EDIT: Better yet, instead of this, I'll write a plug-in for the source format I converted from, Lunar:EB's .PCM audio tracks. 16384Hz, mono/stereo, 8 bit (sign bit format, padded to 16 bits, big endian). Files are always an even number of cooked CD sectors (2048 bytes) in length, with the first sector being the header. The first word seems to be a channel indicator, in reverse, as it's 2 for all of the mono files, and 1 for the two stereo files. Stereo files are interleaved sectors of left/right channels. The two dwords following that first word are loop start (sector offset from first sector of audio, must be even for stereo format, or I assume things will get screwy) and loop end. (sample offset from start of audio, I assume it is to be included in the loop) I don't know the significance of the rest of the numbers in the header. Just describing this lovely internal format for anyone who cares.
I'd would like very much if I could configure the player to inmediately play a song added via command line (launched via mirc script for example) without removing the playlist already loaded (and continuing with the next song in the playlist when finished) :P
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Hello, maybe there already is option for this, but I couldn't find it :) There is option "Commandline - Enqueue incoming files by default when adding from commandline", but it doesn't seem to help when I double click an mp3 in windows explorer.
We definately are in need of an in-build taskbar / tray solution. foo_notaskbar may be a sideway, but it's a very flawed workaround! Why not make this configurable like in Winamp, the user may select his / her best way to handle with a running foobar, either in taskbar and tray, only taskbar or only tray... Right now it's like: Opening foobar, taskbar flashes up and hides - very ugly. You press on the icon in the tray (left or right click doesn't matter), taskbar flashes again... Whee. Please cosider it at least.
Anyway thanks to the author of foo_notaskbar, it's an okay solution.
//edit:typo
I'm converting my FLAC to mp3s for the car and what to embed the artwork. Each folder has a
folder.jpg in there. In the code below the
--ti "folder.jpg" takes care of this as this will work with the current directory just fine.
If I use this converter for lame.exe it works on the 2nd attempt as
folder.jpg has been copied over but it gives an error on the first attempt.
This is the lame.exe command line I have.
-S -o --ti "folder.jpg" -b 320 -q 0 -m s - %d
Then for the copy files to the destination folder:
folder.jpg
If the convertor copied the files first, I wouldn't get the error and it would be a one-step process.