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Title: Can You Guess What Year?
Post by: fewtch on 2002-10-08 18:40:00
Size is about 1.1 megs, so broadband is recommended:

(Edit - Sorry, you missed it... see my post on the source)

Enclosed is a partial song clip (128k CBR MP3)... can you guess approximately what year this came from, type of music?  .

Edit -- This is just for fun so I'll only keep this online for awhile... I don't know how my ISP will like a lot of people downloading this so plz don't pass it around on Usenet or whatever (LOL).
Title: Can You Guess What Year?
Post by: kritip on 2002-10-08 19:01:37
I'd think this track would be very early, u can see its influence on some of the moderen electornic artists, of course it may be modern but i doubt it.

Similar to some of Aphex Twin style, Atari Teenage Riot's softer stuff, Alec Empire's amvient stuff (who i saw live in Birmingham, UK last night and he was absolutly wicked, also the support band 80's Matchbox B-Line Disater were great as well!!)


Anyways to a year, i'd say 1967 as a completly off the wall guess, im not sure if this synthesized stuff was even possible then!!

Don't knock me for being to far off the mark though!! ;-)

Kristian
Title: Can You Guess What Year?
Post by: Jan S. on 2002-10-08 19:08:08
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Enclosed is a partial song clip

Funny thing....the sample I downloaded contained only noise; no music at all.
Must be a broken file.
Title: Can You Guess What Year?
Post by: kritip on 2002-10-08 19:11:00
@ Jan.S
Was that a joke at the atyle or was it white noise? It isn't the most melodical piece, its electronic and sounds old but it is certainly music, try downloading it again, it worked fine for me but if it uncompressed it should work fine??!! GO figure

Kristian
Title: Can You Guess What Year?
Post by: fewtch on 2002-10-08 19:21:52
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I'd think this track would be very early, u can see its influence on some of the moderen electornic artists, of course it may be modern but i doubt it.

Similar to some of Aphex Twin style, Atari Teenage Riot's softer stuff, Alec Empire's amvient stuff (who i saw live in Birmingham, UK last night and he was absolutly wicked, also the support band 80's Matchbox B-Line Disater were great as well!!)


Anyways to a year, i'd say 1967 as a completly off the wall guess, im not sure if this synthesized stuff was even possible then!!

Don't knock me for being to far off the mark though!! ;-)

Kristian

I see I haven't fooled ya  (unless the sound of vinyl tipped you off).  Yes it is early, but I won't say how early yet.  The guy who did it, his more uncommon records sometimes go for $75.00 on Ebay.
Title: Can You Guess What Year?
Post by: Jan S. on 2002-10-08 19:29:35
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@ Jan.S
Was that a joke at the atyle or was it white noise? It isn't the most melodical piece, its electronic and sounds old but it is certainly music, try downloading it again, it worked fine for me but if it uncompressed it should work fine??!! GO figure

Kristian

As I said: There was no music in that file.
Title: Can You Guess What Year?
Post by: fewtch on 2002-10-08 19:31:54
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@ Jan.S
Was that a joke at the atyle or was it white noise? It isn't the most melodical piece, its electronic and sounds old but it is certainly music, try downloading it again, it worked fine for me but if it uncompressed it should work fine??!! GO figure

Kristian

As I say: There was no music in that file.

Something went wrong, I just downloaded & played it fine.  I zipped it using an older version of Winzip, but that shouldn't matter... (strange).  Oh well, it's just for fun... an idea that popped into my mind to see if people could guess how old this track is.
Title: Can You Guess What Year?
Post by: caligae on 2002-10-08 19:37:15
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Anyways to a year, i'd say 1967 as a completly off the wall guess, im not sure if this synthesized stuff was even possible then!!

1967 sounds nice for me. Maybe some time later - But of course I don't have the faintest idea.

But I think it must have been possible back then. The Moog synthesizer was already there and it could probably produce such sounds.

George Harrison released a Moog experimental album in 1969 called electronic sound. (It's pretty bad though - no melody or such in it. Sounds like someone was standing in front of the Moog having no idea, just playing with funky controls)
Title: Can You Guess What Year?
Post by: fewtch on 2002-10-08 19:39:16
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Anyways to a year, i'd say 1967 as a completly off the wall guess, im not sure if this synthesized stuff was even possible then!!

1967 sounds nice for me. Maybe some time later - But of course I don't have the faintest idea.

But I think it must have been possible back then. The Moog synthesizer was already there and it could probably produce such sounds.

George Harrison released a Moog experimental album in 1969 called electronic sound. (It's pretty bad though - no melody or such in it. Sounds like someone was standing in front of the Moog having no idea, just playing with funky controls)

Should I say yet?
Title: Can You Guess What Year?
Post by: flloyd on 2002-10-08 19:52:15
It sounds kind of like Devo but I didn't think any of their records fetched that much and they are more like late 70's to early 80's.
Title: Can You Guess What Year?
Post by: Jan S. on 2002-10-08 21:12:14
Is this the whole song (ends with silence)?

You know we can't take posting of copyrighted material lightly though samples are ok.
Title: Can You Guess What Year?
Post by: fewtch on 2002-10-08 23:04:48
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Is this the whole song (ends with silence)?

You know we can't take posting of copyrighted material lightly though samples are ok.

No, it's only about 1/3 of the song.  I wouldn't post the whole song, even though it's been OOP for quite a long time.

Edit -- I might as well take it offline (I don't want bandwidth complaints from my ISP) & reveal the source... it's from Mort Garson's (http://www.wildsscene.com/music/oddpop/moog_mg.html) "Electronic Hair Pieces" (ca. 1969) which was his treatment of the "Hair" soundtrack, the song is the final part of "Three-Five-Zero-Zero."  Good guess guys (very accurate on the date), I was wondering if someone might mistake it for 80's/90's industrial.
Title: Can You Guess What Year?
Post by: Pio2001 on 2002-10-08 23:43:59
I came too late, however, if it is synthesizer, I would have by no mean say 1967, since, to my knowledge, the oldest syhesizer record is Switched-on Bach, by Walter/Wendy Carlos, 1968.

Since you seem to know a bit, what is the oldest record with programmed rhythmics ?
My music teacher spoke about Pink Floyd as one of the firsts to use programmed rhythms, but I've got Kraftwerk 2, 1971 (recorded 10/1971) featuring a "rhytmusmachine".
Title: Can You Guess What Year?
Post by: fewtch on 2002-10-09 01:01:06
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I came too late, however, if it is synthesizer, I would have by no mean say 1967, since, to my knowledge, the oldest syhesizer record is Switched-on Bach, by Walter/Wendy Carlos, 1968.

Since you seem to know a bit, what is the oldest record with programmed rhythmics ?
My music teacher spoke about Pink Floyd as one of the firsts to use programmed rhythms, but I've got Kraftwerk 2, 1971 (recorded 10/1971) featuring a "rhytmusmachine".

I don't know the answer... but on the other point, I'm pretty sure there were experimental records before Switched On Bach (nothing popular though).  Some of them weren't synthesizers per-se (just electronic noises made with circuits).