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Title: FB2K v1.1.15 Masstagger now writes POPM 'RATING WMP' insted of
Post by: trelain on 2012-10-08 02:55:00
Something in the FB2K conversion from v1.1.14a to v1.1.15 appears to have changed my Masstagger's v1.8.4 script for setting the "RATING" tag.    I have this script:

Set "RATING" = "1"

Which before created a TXXX frame of "RATING" set to 1.    But after the upgrade to FB2K v1.1.15, the same Masstagger script instead creates a "RATING WMP" type tag of a POPM frame of 1.    You can't see the difference in FB2K's Properties, it either case it shows a "RATING" tag of 1, since it doesn't appear to differentiate between the two.  But MP3tag and a hex dump of the file both show the POPM tag frame being created by Masstagger instead of the TXXX tag frame.    I am writing ID3v2.4 tags to mp3, with no ID3v1, running Windows XP with all latest updates.    I verified the behavior change on both a standard install of FB2K and a portable install in another drive.  In both cases the tags were written correctly under v1.1.14a, and problem introduced after upgrading to v1.1.15, and problem went away when reverting back to v1.1.14a.

Title: FB2K v1.1.15 Masstagger now writes POPM 'RATING WMP' insted of
Post by: BenB on 2012-10-08 03:56:03
As of 1.1.15, foobar writes a WMP-compatible POPM frame when ratings are written to your files' tags. You can complain about it in this thread (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=97012&hl=) if you'd like.

The change was alluded to in the changelog (http://www.foobar2000.org/changelog).
Title: FB2K v1.1.15 Masstagger now writes POPM 'RATING WMP' insted of
Post by: trelain on 2012-10-08 04:22:06
Ok thanks BenB.    I did see this in the changelog back when v1.1.15 came out, but didn't realize FB would now stop writing a TXXX frame completely.

ID3v2: “rating” tags now compatible with Windows Media Player (beta 2).

There is already a "RATING WMP" option in Masstagger.  If I wanted a WMP POPM frame for a rating, I would choose that option.  Choosing "RATING" instead as an available alternative obviously means I DON"T want a POPM WMP Rating tag, and am happy with the user TXXX "RATING" tag from a "RATING" option.    I believe MP3Tag expects the user to specify "RATING WMP" to get a POPM WMP tag, why would FB2K do it differently?  What if someone wants a Media Monkey rating tag from "RATING"?   

Title: FB2K v1.1.15 Masstagger now writes POPM 'RATING WMP' insted of
Post by: kode54 on 2012-10-08 15:26:29
There is already a "RATING WMP" option in Masstagger.

Only if you or somebody else added it. It certainly isn't built-in.
Title: FB2K v1.1.15 Masstagger now writes POPM 'RATING WMP' insted of
Post by: trelain on 2012-10-08 20:28:33
Ah yes kode54 you are right, I stand corrected.    On a fresh install there is only RATING, and under v1.1.14a if I try to add a "RATING WMP" entry, it creates a TXXX frame of "RATING WMP" - not very useful.    And according to MP3Tag's tag mapping page, RATING MM for Media Monkey also uses POPM for its file Rating tag.  So before v1.1.15 there was NO way to create a POPM Rating in FB2K? 
A config option to toggle mapping to TXXX or POPM would be ideal for folks like me who prefer a user tag that won't get overlaid by over zealous software copying its database rating to POPM.