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Reply #3475
Good to see the support for ffmpeg and nero out of the box. But I am not able to use it due to a problem that I had mentioned in this same thread an year or two ago

- SoundCheck feature of ipod does not work with all accessories using USB audio connection (accessories using analog audio connection work fine, though). As a workaround, one has to "apply" replaygain before sending files to ipod.

musicmusic, can an options like "apply replaygain" be added? It can also be extended to DSP effects etc. (dynamic compression effect is very useful for noisy environments like car/travelling)

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Reply #3476
Did you not hear back from Clarion (or Apple) then?

I suppose that option (apply gain before encoding) could be added to the converter; of course you would have to force all files to be transcoded. Does the [-100%,+100%] per-track volume slider in iTunes definitely not work as well? I am not convinced the need for DSP effects here is great, and it's a separate issue anyway.
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Reply #3477
Hi musicmusic, thanks again for all the work you've done on this component.

With the latest version (0.6.9.4) adding podcasts with foobar is buggy. Podcasts added with itunes appear fine, when added with foobar they either don't appear on the itunes app (I've an iphone 3gs with jailbroken 4.3.3) or all appear under the same title. Was working fine with 0.6.9.1.

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Reply #3478
Did you not hear back from Clarion (or Apple) then?

Nope! Apple hasn't released any firmware upgrade since then. BTW, I came across people facing the same issue with other head unit makes as well.

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I suppose that option (apply gain before encoding) could be added to the converter; of course you would have to force all files to be transcoded.

That would be really great.

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Does the [-100%,+100%] per-track volume slider in iTunes definitely not work as well?

If I remember correctly from earlier experiments, it worked, but not consistently between headphone out and USB audio (it felt like linear in one case while logarithmic in the other). To clarify what I mean, if I changed the slider and made it sound louder on headphone, it sounded way too louder though USB. Something like that.

In any case, even if that had worked, I believe since it is a manual task it would be neither practical for a large library nor accurate enough.

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I am not convinced the need for DSP effects here is great, and it's a separate issue anyway.

Agreed, it is not as compelling as the need for applying replaygain. I was just thinking it shouldn't harm if the existing converter code in foobar2k is to be used, but then I am not a programmer and don't know fb2k internals!

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Reply #3479
There is no easy way I'm afraid, other than using the synchronise command instead.


Sooooo basically there is no way?

Also it seems when I load my iPod library > edit the album art > and click "update album art" option it doesn't update it on my iPod. I think it did once but hasn't done it again.  Just a glitch?

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Reply #3480
Hello everyone, I have a problem which i couldn't manage to solve by my own. I'm sorry if this has been posted and answered already.

I have a 5.5G iPod with firmware version 1.3 and I'm using Windows XP SP3.
Most of my audio library is in FLAC, and i transfer them to my iPod as ALAC (encoding with foobar using this method).

I tried to automate the process using the same encoder in the method listed above (while utilizing the "Convert audio tracks in unsupported formats" option and listing the same parameters as the guide in fb2k.net suggests) to have my FLAC files automatically converted to ALAC when i tell foobar to send them to my iPod.

Needless to say, the parameters suggested at fb2k.net (-i – -acodec alac %d) didn't work both with foobar's own converter and with foo_dop's converter.

foobar's error log after trying to convert:

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CLI encoder: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ffmpeg.exe
Destination file: D:\Full Length\Lossless\Accept - Restless And Wild - 1982\01. Fast As A Shark.m4a
Encoder stream format: 44100Hz / 2ch / 16bps
Command line: "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ffmpeg.exe" -i – -acodec alac "01. Fast As A Shark.m4a"
Working folder: D:\Full Length\Lossless\Accept - Restless And Wild - 1982\
Could not determine file attributes for "D:\Full Length\Lossless\Accept - Restless And Wild - 1982\01. Fast As A Shark.m4a", reason: Object not found
An error occurred while writing to file (The encoder has terminated prematurely with code 1 (0x00000001); please re-check parameters) : "D:\Full Length\Lossless\Accept - Restless And Wild - 1982\01. Fast As A Shark.m4a"
Additional information:
Encoder stream format: 44100Hz / 2ch / 16bps
Command line: "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ffmpeg.exe" -i – -acodec alac "01. Fast As A Shark.m4a"
Working folder: D:\Full Length\Lossless\Accept - Restless And Wild - 1982\
Conversion failed: The encoder has terminated prematurely with code 1 (0x00000001); please re-check parameters
could not enumerate tracks (Object not found) on:
D:\Full Length\Lossless\Accept - Restless And Wild - 1982\01. Fast As A Shark.m4a
Total encoding time: 0:03.047, 0.13x realtime


trying to convert via foo_dop when sending to iPod yielded this result:
"Failed to add file to iPod: Conversion failed - Unexpected process exit code 00000001h".

However, the parameters suggested in the comment section at fb2k.net (-i %s -acodec alac %d), worked with foobar's converter, but when trying to use the same parameters through foo_dop's automatic converting option when sending to iPod, i got the same result listed above.

I would be very happy if you could help me with this issue, i think others would also benefit well from this.

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Reply #3481
why won't my iPod show Beyoncé, instead it only shows Unknown Artists? i go to my library, i send the albums to my iPod, and the iPod (or the iPod manager) instantly truncates the artist field, making it entirely blank. i tried id3v2.3 and id3v2.4, but it's always the same thing, and i can never get it to work

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Reply #3482
Hi musicmusic, thanks again for all the work you've done on this component.

With the latest version (0.6.9.4) adding podcasts with foobar is buggy. Podcasts added with itunes appear fine, when added with foobar they either don't appear on the itunes app (I've an iphone 3gs with jailbroken 4.3.3) or all appear under the same title. Was working fine with 0.6.9.1.
Reproduced, sorry about that. I've just posted 0.6.9.5 with a fix - you just need to run rewrite database.

If I remember correctly from earlier experiments, it worked, but not consistently between headphone out and USB audio (it felt like linear in one case while logarithmic in the other). To clarify what I mean, if I changed the slider and made it sound louder on headphone, it sounded way too louder though USB. Something like that.

In any case, even if that had worked, I believe since it is a manual task it would be neither practical for a large library nor accurate enough.
It is another potential solution i.e. the component could set that field automatically. Yes, there are some issues regarding the consistency of interpretation, but I think some of that is just various volume adjustment caps.

I was just thinking it shouldn't harm if the existing converter code in foobar2k is to be used
Nope, all written by me...

Also it seems when I load my iPod library > edit the album art > and click "update album art" option it doesn't update it on my iPod. I think it did once but hasn't done it again.  Just a glitch?
It will check the original source file if it still exists, when it doesn't it falls back to any embedded image in the file on the device.

It seems like you just have an old version of ffmpeg. Get a new one.

why won't my iPod show Beyoncé, instead it only shows Unknown Artists? i go to my library, i send the albums to my iPod, and the iPod (or the iPod manager) instantly truncates the artist field, making it entirely blank. i tried id3v2.3 and id3v2.4, but it's always the same thing, and i can never get it to work
What device? Can you try retyping Beyoncé? Can you check what it says in 'Manage contents"?
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Reply #3483
It seems like you just have an old version of ffmpeg. Get a new one.


Hello, and thanks for the response, but:

I've downloaded the latest 32-bit Static build, and extracted the ffmpeg.exe file and replaced the old one with it. Same results as before.
Are there any other files in the zip that I should use and I don't know about?

 

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Reply #3484
Looking at your parameters again "-i – -acodec alac %d" it looks like you have a dash after -i instead of a hyphen. Check that, or just grab the latest iPod manager which has pre-defined settings.
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Reply #3485
Looking at your parameters again "-i – -acodec alac %d" it looks like you have a dash after -i instead of a hyphen. Check that, or just grab the latest iPod manager which has pre-defined settings.


Wow! Thanks for the help! I've downloaded the latest foo_dop and it worked like magic!
It seems that the most annoying problems have the simplest solutions. 

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Reply #3486
Hey musicmusic, just something odd I noticed. If I rename my playlists in foobar and then resync my ipod, it seems to leave music behind on the ipod causing it to run out of space. I'm not sure if anything can be done about this, but I thought I'd mention it. To resolve it in the past I've simply wiped my entire ipod, I don't know if anyone else has a better suggestion for this.

Not a major issue, I don't rename playlists constantly, but I figured I'd mention it since maybe others have not come across it. Thanks.

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Reply #3487
It is another potential solution i.e. the component could set that field automatically. Yes, there are some issues regarding the consistency of interpretation, but I think some of that is just various volume adjustment caps.

I tried this method of volume adjustment slider, it works in iTunes and iPod using headphones but not though USB audio, same problem as SoundCheck. Applying gain seems to be the only way.
BTW, what did you mean by "caps"? (limits?)

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Nope, all written by me...

In that case I would consider it outside the scope of this plugin.

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Reply #3488
Hey musicmusic, just something odd I noticed. If I rename my playlists in foobar and then resync my ipod, it seems to leave music behind on the ipod causing it to run out of space. I'm not sure if anything can be done about this, but I thought I'd mention it. To resolve it in the past I've simply wiped my entire ipod, I don't know if anyone else has a better suggestion for this.

Not a major issue, I don't rename playlists constantly, but I figured I'd mention it since maybe others have not come across it. Thanks.
Sync looks at the files in the playlists, so renaming them shouldn't matter. If the files don't appear in the iPod's library they must be "orphaned". That shouldn't happen, but such problems may occur if you have iTunes open whilst using iPod manager. The only other thing that might take up significant space is the artwork thumbnail files. Next time you have the problem, run 'Load library' and check how the total size of all files and compare it to the size of the iPod_Control\Music folder, and also check the size of the artwork files at iPod_Control\Artwork.

I tried this method of volume adjustment slider, it works in iTunes and iPod using headphones but not though USB audio, same problem as SoundCheck. Applying gain seems to be the only way.
OK thanks, I'll put something together soon..

BTW, what did you mean by "caps"? (limits?)
Yes, actually it's a limit on things like spending so I probably misused the word.
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Reply #3489
why won't my iPod show Beyoncé, instead it only shows Unknown Artists? i go to my library, i send the albums to my iPod, and the iPod (or the iPod manager) instantly truncates the artist field, making it entirely blank. i tried id3v2.3 and id3v2.4, but it's always the same thing, and i can never get it to work
What device? Can you try retyping Beyoncé? Can you check what it says in 'Manage contents"?


it will work by retyping, but only if i type it manually, and then click on the "update metadata". otherwise there is no way do it. it's the latest iPod Classic 160GB.
the artist name is not shown in the manage contents until i manually update the tags, just like the iPod itself.

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Reply #3490
Can you send me a file that doesn't work (e-mail address on my site) or post a hex dump of its tag. There must be something strange in there if retyping works, maybe a new line or something, who knows..
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Reply #3491
Sync looks at the files in the playlists, so renaming them shouldn't matter. If the files don't appear in the iPod's library they must be "orphaned". That shouldn't happen, but such problems may occur if you have iTunes open whilst using iPod manager. The only other thing that might take up significant space is the artwork thumbnail files. Next time you have the problem, run 'Load library' and check how the total size of all files and compare it to the size of the iPod_Control\Music folder, and also check the size of the artwork files at iPod_Control\Artwork.


Ah I think I found the issue. I had a new checkbox under sync called "media library" that was checked by default. At least I don't recall ever checking it. It was filling my iPod to the brim. Found it after I reset the whole damn thing to factory defaults.... aaah!

Ah well, thanks music, foo_dop still rocks. I've been doing some work updating other components like Columns UI, installing facets, and updating my ui configuration.

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Reply #3492
I use an iPod nano 1G. I tried to map Artist to $meta(artist,0). It works for both the iPod's Artist List and played songs. However, I thought it would be better if it worked just for the Artist list. So I didn't map Artist but "Sort artist" to $meta(artist,0). But after doing it, the iPod's Artist list showed normal entries like "Artist1 / Artist2 / Artist3". Does "Sort artist" not work for iPod nano 1G?

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Reply #3493
It functions as it does in iTunes, which is to change the order the artists are displayed. It doesn't change what is displayed, that is what the normal artist does. What you want to do is not possible.
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Reply #3494
Everytime you ad an album to the iPod and then when you try to add another one it wont allow you as it says "iPod is busy". Is there a way to fix this so you can ad albums one after the another without having to wait until the first album is completely transferred to iPod?

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Reply #3495
OK thanks, I'll put something together soon..
Added in version 0.6.9.6.

Everytime you ad an album to the iPod and then when you try to add another one it wont allow you as it says "iPod is busy". Is there a way to fix this so you can ad albums one after the another without having to wait until the first album is completely transferred to iPod?
Sorry, not currently, but you could build up a playlist first and then add or sync in one go.
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Reply #3496
Added in version 0.6.9.6.

Thank you so much! So I guess here is what happens under the hood- when "apply RG before encoding" is selected, it will apply the existing gain first (and not scan for RG later or create any soundcheck tag?). Whereas when "scan RG after encoding" is selected it will scan RG value and convert it to soundcheck. Is that correct?

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Reply #3497
Yes, that's correct.
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Reply #3498
Hi,  I have an iPhone 3GS running on iOS 4.3.3.
Is there a way to retrieve the songs that I restored on the phone via iCloud.  I can copy them manually from File -> iPod -> File System Explorer. But is there an automated way to copy just the files that are on iPhone but not in my music folder?  I tried File -> iPod -> Recover orphaned tracks but that doesn't seem to work.. it doesn't generate a playlist with the recovered tracks.  It starts the process to recover, ends without any errors but doesn't show any new playlist.

So I copied all the tracks with random characters in filenames but now can't delete those.  It says that those files were downloaded on-device and they can be deleted only from the device.  I have about 30 such files on the device which I can't remove.

Please suggest a solution.

Also there is one bug.  If the sync is going on with my iPhone and I receive a call, the sync messes up even if I don't pick up the call. 
Does that mean that I need to go to airplane mode every time I am syncing using fb2k?

Thanks.

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Reply #3499
Hi,  I have an iPhone 3GS running on iOS 4.3.3.
Is there a way to retrieve the songs that I restored on the phone via iCloud.  I can copy them manually from File -> iPod -> File System Explorer. But is there an automated way to copy just the files that are on iPhone but not in my music folder?  I tried File -> iPod -> Recover orphaned tracks but that doesn't seem to work.. it doesn't generate a playlist with the recovered tracks.  It starts the process to recover, ends without any errors but doesn't show any new playlist.

So I copied all the tracks with random characters in filenames but now can't delete those.  It says that those files were downloaded on-device and they can be deleted only from the device.  I have about 30 such files on the device which I can't remove.

Please suggest a solution.

Also there is one bug.  If the sync is going on with my iPhone and I receive a call, the sync messes up even if I don't pick up the call. 
Does that mean that I need to go to airplane mode every time I am syncing using fb2k?

Thanks.


When I copied the music from iPhone, the files got copied alright, but it lost all the tag.  Did I miss something when copying them?  Any tips on how I could preserve the tags when copying the files?
Thanks!