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Reply #1525
ITYM
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%artist%[ $if($stricmp(%bootleg%,Bootlegs),Bootlegs,)]

Oh, yeah... Nice catch!  I was already thinking "why don't you leave the tag blank for non-bootlegs..."

Alex O.: if you did that, you could use my suggestion.

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Reply #1526
I am having a few problems with foo_dop and my iPod:

1. Album art refuses to send. I have the path correct, and it used to work (before iPod reformat), so I don't know what's going on. My question is, how to 'flush' the art database, or if an option can be added to wipe, and update the artwork database WITHOUT having to resend all songs.

2. Multi-value fields don't seem to work correctly, or maybe I am doing something wrong? My example is, I have set up the Genre field in foo_dop to map to MY custom %type% field. I have set up my %type% field in foobar2000 to be multi-value. So I tag my songs, separating the values with ; (ex. Studio; Cover; Live etc). Upon looking at the Genre section of my iPod, it shows "Studio, Cover, Live" as ONE full Type. It doesn't put that song under the Studio, Cover, and Live fields independently. What am I doing wrong?

If someone can help me with any of this stuff, that's be great, thanks
Song List: keikoniumboards.ke.funpic.org/files/songlist.html


 

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Reply #1528
2. Multi-value fields don't seem to work correctly, or maybe I am doing something wrong?

The iPod does not support multi-value fields. (This hasn't changed in the newer models, has it?) Or more precisely, it reads all of the values as one single value. I learned that when I tried placing multiple genres in my tracks and ended up with genres entries like "Game, Instrumental, Electronica." I was pretty disappointed that a system like the iPod doesn't support that.

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Reply #1529
wipe, and update the artwork database WITHOUT having to resend all songs.
Perhaps using Update metadata on iPod command?

HTH.

Alessandro


Ah wonderful, thank you !


2. Multi-value fields don't seem to work correctly, or maybe I am doing something wrong?

The iPod does not support multi-value fields. (This hasn't changed in the newer models, has it?) Or more precisely, it reads all of the values as one single value. I learned that when I tried placing multiple genres in my tracks and ended up with genres entries like "Game, Instrumental, Electronica." I was pretty disappointed that a system like the iPod doesn't support that.


Whoa, that kind of surprises me too  . I thought for sure that it would since it supports sorting by genre and that is almost always a multi-value field. That's not so great news, especially since I just fishished tagging a couple thousand files >.< haha
Song List: keikoniumboards.ke.funpic.org/files/songlist.html

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Reply #1530
iPod, at least my iPhone, does not support multiple value tags, it will only see the first of the values and will ignore the rest.  When files are sent with foo_dop it will coalesce all of the multiple values into a single value separated with a semicolon.  If I send my Naked City album, which is tagged in foobar2000 to show up under Avant-Garde, Jazz, and Metal (I prefer fairly loose genre categorizations of course) it will show up as Avant-Garde only when sent with iTunes, but "Avant-Garde; Jazz; Metal" with foo_dop.

Grumble...apple sucks....grumble.  I agree it's pretty lame, but they are always way ahead on flair and a few steps behind on functionality that only our little niche of music-tech geeks really care about.

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Reply #1531

Try this?
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%artist% [%bootleg%]

ITYM
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%artist%[ $if($stricmp(%bootleg%,Bootlegs),Bootlegs,)]




Hi,
sorry for going OT one last time, but now I have tried this string but it didn't work. I still have all my live shows between the albums. I have also tried the string without the space efter the [ , but this did not work, too.
Maybe there is just a little mistake, but I am just learning this all, so I can't figure it out. So any help is much apreciated.

Thanks in advance

Alex

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Reply #1532

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%artist%[ $if($stricmp(%bootleg%,Bootlegs),Bootlegs,)]

sorry for going OT one last time, but now I have tried this string but it didn't work. I still have all my live shows between the albums. I have also tried the string without the space efter the [ , but this did not work, too.
Maybe there is just a little mistake, but I am just learning this all, so I can't figure it out. So any help is much apreciated.

If all else fails, add the above format string as a column to your playlist view and you'll see what it does exactly. Unless I'm very mistaken here the above format string should only append "Bootlegs" if the bootleg-Tag was set to "Bootlegs" for a file.
np: 4'33"

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Reply #1533
ok i was wondering... for the artwork.. what exactly is needed so that the artwork is uploaded from the same directory as the mp3s being uploaded... bcz my artwork is labeled after the directory

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Reply #1534
I'm an idiot, and used foo_dop with my iPod Touch 2.0. Now all my tracks are orphaned. Does anybody know software that can recover orphaned tracks? foo_dop can't do it.

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Reply #1535
Hi~ Is there anyway I can resend all my album art to my iPod? Update metadata on iPod doesn't seem to resend my album art over to the database.
:)

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Reply #1536
hi, first of all, thx a lot to the one who developped this plugin, it's awesome.

here's what I tried to do but wasn't able to:

I want my albums to be sorted in chrnological order, but don't want the year to actually show up on the ipod.

I tried this line:

%album artist% - '%date%'%album% - %disc% - %tracknumber% - %title%

That didn't really work...

what should I do?


I have a question about gapless playback now:

I have some live albums on mp3, and I guess to get them to go gapless I'd have to access them thru itunes and check "gapless" in the proprieties.

will that still work though after transferring them using foo_dop? since foo_dop creates dummiy gapless data (it didn't work for me when I left that option unchecked).


thanks!

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Reply #1537
I'm an idiot, and used foo_dop with my iPod Touch 2.0. Now all my tracks are orphaned. Does anybody know software that can recover orphaned tracks? foo_dop can't do it.
Depends on what you mean. You can copy the tracks from the touch using foo_dop, but if you meant recover the database only iTunes can create an accepted database. However if you only used foo_dop once, there will be a backup saved on the device.

Hi~ Is there anyway I can resend all my album art to my iPod? Update metadata on iPod doesn't seem to resend my album art over to the database.
It is not possible currently, you have to resend the tracks.

I want my albums to be sorted in chrnological order, but don't want the year to actually show up on the ipod.
You can currently not do this.

I tried this line:

%album artist% - '%date%'%album% - %disc% - %tracknumber% - %title%

That didn't really work...
That is for something else, read a bit more carefully or press help when in doubt.

I have some live albums on mp3, and I guess to get them to go gapless I'd have to access them thru itunes and check "gapless" in the proprieties.
That is only used at the moment by iTunes to disable crossfading, for continuous albums (such as mix CDs). It's not important to enable it for the iPod.

will that still work though after transferring them using foo_dop? since foo_dop creates dummiy gapless data (it didn't work for me when I left that option unchecked).
Gapless playback will work for MP3 files with LAME gapless data, and MP4 AAC files with Nero or iTunes gapless data. If enabled, dummy data will be used for files where the component fails to read any gapless data.
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Reply #1538
thanks for your reply!

I'm wondering though, how can I put gapless date in mp3 and m4a files? When I rip cds with foobar2000, using the nero aac encoder, will they have gapless data? How about mp3 files that were encoded with lame? Is there a way to make foobar scan the files without gapless data so these files can play without gaps?

another issue I'm having is that I'm trying to lower the volume of all the songs on the ipod, by -7db. It doesn't seem to work using "soundcheck adjustment". Or is it that I didn't get what this option is for?

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Reply #1539
Yes, the current version of the Nero encoder is compatible, and probably the one before that. Files produced by the mentioned encoders will have the gapless data by default.

Note we are referring to gaps introduced by the encoding process. Some more information about the topic is available here or maybe here.

You can check the gapless information status of files on your iPod under 'Manage contents'.
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Reply #1540
There will most likely be at least new iPod classic firmware released soon, and possibly nano 3G, there is a chance it may lock out foo_dop and other iPod managers, so if you value those don't update until I or others have checked this.
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Reply #1541
Hi~ Is there anyway I can resend all my album art to my iPod? Update metadata on iPod doesn't seem to resend my album art over to the database.
It is not possible currently, you have to resend the tracks.


Last night I deleted all the tracks from my ipod classic 160GB and resent them to my ipod. The album art still did not show up on the new tracks, and I checked that foo_dop uses the file cover.jpg for album art.
I also tried updating the metadata by selecting all the tracks and right-clicking on them.

I'm not too sure how to fix this... do I need to completely format the ipod or something?

Any help would be appreciated, thank you!

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Reply #1542
I think there is some confusion.

If you want to update missing art, you can use 'Update metadata on iPod' if the original files have not moved.
If you want to replace existing art, you need to resend.

If the component is not picking up your cover.jpg for new files, check your configuration (after clicking help) or otherwise post a screenshot of that prefs page.
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Reply #1543
I think there is some confusion.

If you want to update missing art, you can use 'Update metadata on iPod' if the original files have not moved.
If you want to replace existing art, you need to resend.

If the component is not picking up your cover.jpg for new files, check your configuration (after clicking help) or otherwise post a screenshot of that prefs page.


Thank you for your help. I figured out the problem, it was really rudimentary and I feel ridiculous for not noticing it!

In the cover path box, I had written "cover.jpg" instead of NOT including the extension. I hope it will work now!

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Reply #1544
is there a chance for ipod nano 4g support in further releases?

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Reply #1545
I am assuming it doesn't work, which is likely really. It remains to be seen what protection mechanisms Apple are using on the database, but it is probably similar to iPhone 2.0 software. Time will give us some answers anyway..
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Reply #1546
pfff i would buy a nano 4g NOW if i could use any ipod manager i want.

big applause for apple 

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Reply #1547
I am assuming it doesn't work, which is likely really. It remains to be seen what protection mechanisms Apple are using on the database, but it is probably similar to iPhone 2.0 software. Time will give us some answers anyway..


So I guess they (whoever they are  ) aren't close to cracking the 2.1 firmware? 

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Reply #1548
First I want to thank you for your great plugin! So I can use my ipod with my favourite music player.
But theres one thing I misses in foo_dop: I can't see how much space is free on my ipod. I always have to select the whole database and search for the size of the selected items.
Is it possible to show the free size e.g. in the status bar. It would be easier to put music on the ipod!

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Reply #1549
So I guess they (whoever they are  ) aren't close to cracking the 2.1 firmware? 
I don't think anything has changed from 2.0 to 2.1 in this regard. I was only really aware of one person making any decent progress. But I do not know what happened exactly, I can only assume he hit some snag.

Hopefully if it affects the standard iPods now there will be more of a push to overcome this. These were posted before, but there is discussion in #ipodhash on Freenode, and a webpage with some info at http://bluwiki.com/go/Ipodhash .

But theres one thing I misses in foo_dop: I can't see how much space is free on my ipod. I always have to select the whole database and search for the size of the selected items.
Is it possible to show the free size e.g. in the status bar. It would be easier to put music on the ipod!
Not in the status bar, it may be added in iPod properties and iPod devices.
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