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Reply #225 –
Quote from: Ken-chan on
What if, per example, I were running an unservicepacked WinXP? :P Not that I do, but there's Foobar, but no MTP (afaik).

MTP on XP comes with WMP10, not any service packs.  Still wouldn't be on a machine with no updates and an original XP release installed.

As I understand it MTP is very different from how ipods work so it would be pretty unusual to see this plugin support it.  There are open source media players like Amarok that support MTP devices and libraris too like libmtp, so it shouldn't be impossible to make a foobar plugin to support them.  Just need to find a developr actually interested in doing it.

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Reply #226 –
Hm, all of them make mention of requiring Service pakc 1 or higher, though. Perhaps WMP10 is no go on WXPSP0? I do not know - I merely would love to sync using Foobar.
There's a storm on the loose, there's sirens in my head...

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Reply #227 –
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Reply #228 –
I'm not sure if this has been asked already but is their anyway to add or delete playlists from your ipod with foo_dop?

Does anybody know what the benefits are of having the ipod service installed.  I do not used it and have used foo_dop sucessfully?

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Reply #229 –
Quote from: Northpole on
I'm not sure if this has been asked already but is their anyway to add or delete playlists from your ipod with foo_dop?

Does anybody know what the benefits are of having the ipod service installed.  I do not used it and have used foo_dop sucessfully?


I think it just lets you use the unmount ipod command in foo_dop.

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Reply #230 –
@Mike

Thanks for the response.

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Reply #231 –
Bugreport : foo_dop seems to reset itunes specific tags in the database, i.e. "don't play when shuffling songs" -- is this possible?

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Reply #232 –
After the initial sprint start the development seems to have come to a stop for while. Just out of curiosity, will the plugin ever leave alpha status? I have been using it for quite a while now and never had any problems with it. Great job! 

Chris

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Reply #233 –
I think musicmusic took the summer off, so once hes around again there may be more work on this plugin.

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Reply #234 –
The iPod software has been updated to version 1.2...

Apparently they finally managed to implement...gapless playback! 

Well...thing is foo_dop seems to be incompatible with the new firmware. Mounting/Unmounting doesnt work anymore since the update.

Chris

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Reply #235 –
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Bugreport : foo_dop seems to reset itunes specific tags in the database, i.e. "don't play when shuffling songs" -- is this possible?
No its not meant to and shouldn't be doing that (at least the field you mention). I'll test myself later.

Quote from: schroeder on
The iPod software has been updated to version 1.2...

Apparently they finally managed to implement...gapless playback! 

Well...thing is foo_dop seems to be incompatible with the new firmware. Mounting/Unmounting doesnt work anymore since the update.

Chris
Just don't use those commands. I will remove then from the next build, they are more trouble than they are worth.
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Reply #236 –
Yay! he's back!  All praise the great musicmusichammed.

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Reply #237 –
I have used foo_dop for a while now. 2 days ago i formatted my ipod. then i used anapod to send 1 file to the ipod so there was a database file for foo_dop to find. then i sent the rest of my songs to my ipod. They are definitly on my ipod, i can see them all in the FXX folders. however, the ipod doesn't see them. even after using rebuild databse the songs do not show up. any idea why this is happening?

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Reply #238 –
It is a bit of a pain that foo_pod isn't supported with 0.9. I didn't like iTunes so I uninstalled it and used foo_pod exclusively. I will test foo_dop but I am in the process of moving house, so reluctantly I have downloaded and installed iTunes again as a temporary measure. Hopefully when I get settled in I can remove iTunes again and continue with 100% foobar2000.
 

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Reply #239 –
Quote from: falconfox on
I have used foo_dop for a while now. 2 days ago i formatted my ipod. then i used anapod to send 1 file to the ipod so there was a database file for foo_dop to find. then i sent the rest of my songs to my ipod. They are definitly on my ipod, i can see them all in the FXX folders. however, the ipod doesn't see them. even after using rebuild databse the songs do not show up. any idea why this is happening?

Sounds like corrupted/invalid database. But usually foo_dop would fix that when re-writing if it can actually read the DB.

Does foo_dop see the songs when you use its load library feature?

You could try starting the DB off with a different program. Next version of foo_dop has a feature to "prepare" a blank ipod (makes empty database) so can use it with foo_dop.

Otherwise, I heard of some issue like this with rockbox and latest ipod nano firmware.
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Reply #240 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
Quote from: falconfox on

I have used foo_dop for a while now. 2 days ago i formatted my ipod. then i used anapod to send 1 file to the ipod so there was a database file for foo_dop to find. then i sent the rest of my songs to my ipod. They are definitly on my ipod, i can see them all in the FXX folders. however, the ipod doesn't see them. even after using rebuild databse the songs do not show up. any idea why this is happening?

Sounds like corrupted/invalid database. But usually foo_dop would fix that when re-writing if it can actually read the DB.

Does foo_dop see the songs when you use its load library feature?

You could try starting the DB off with a different program. Next version of foo_dop has a feature to "prepare" a blank ipod (makes empty database) so can use it with foo_dop.

Otherwise, I heard of some issue like this with rockbox and latest ipod nano firmware.


AAHHHH. The reason i formatted my ipod was because i had rockbox on it! I thought i completely uninstalled it however. Well i am patiently waiting for the next version with blank database option. BTW, foo_dop does NOT see the files when it loads the ipod playlist. it only see the single file transfered via anapod. Hope this helps...

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Reply #241 –
Couple things.
  • Gapless playback seems to break when uploading through foo_dop. ie, if I encode with iTunes AAC, and upload the tracks through iTunes, gapless is preserved, but if I upload through foo_dop, gapless is broken.
  • Feature suggestion: I'd really like some sort of way to scribble over the SoundCheck info in place on the host. Even if that means mucking around with the iTunes database directly.

Excellent work btw

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Reply #242 –
Quote from: Axon on
  • Gapless playback seems to break when uploading through foo_dop. ie, if I encode with iTunes AAC, and upload the tracks through iTunes, gapless is preserved, but if I upload through foo_dop, gapless is broken.


Of course, current version of foo_dop doesn't write the gapless info to the iTunesDB.

The good news is I've taken a look at the iTunesDB generated by iTunes 7 and worked out where the gapless info seems to go.

Bad news: One of the fields is "byte offset from the first audio frame to the 8th-from-last audio frame" (the explaination I found here). I don't think I can calculate that using interfaces from foobar2000 SDK. Well maybe I can by messing around with input interfaces, I'll give it a try at least, but it would be slooow.

Other data (encoder delay, encoder padding) I can pull from tech info. But I think that they are only populated for LAME encoded MP3s. I don't know about Nero enocoded MP4s (Let alone iTunes/Quicktime MP4s). Its also a problem if the fields get renamed in future version of foobar2000 like some other ones.
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Reply #243 –
Hi, this is my first post here, but I've been lurking for years. I registered to make a suggestion.
First up, thanks musicmusic for this great component, it really is a great help in minimising the amount of time I have to use iTunes.

My suggestion is: For MP4 Videos, instead of worry about whether the mp4 IS in fact a video. Why not just add an option: "Send Mp4 as Video" and leave it with the user?

I thik this makes sense, because people who want to use foobar will have to convert their videos to the correct format (if they are not using iTunes) So they should already know which files are videos...

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Reply #244 –
since everyone is throwing there $0.02 in; i will as well.

first. Music- it's very nice to have you back. and i'll alwyas be grateful for the work you're doing.

second. i would love to see playlist management implemented before gapless, video, and the other bells and whistles that apple decided to put into iTunes 7. obviously others will want the bells and whistles but hey, that's why this is only worth 2 cents.

again thanks for all the work.

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Reply #245 –
Quote from: PokéParadox on
My suggestion is: For MP4 Videos, instead of worry about whether the mp4 IS in fact a video. Why not just add an option: "Send Mp4 as Video" and leave it with the user?

Yes, it would work for MP4. I'll consider it.

Quote from: furious on
second. i would love to see playlist management implemented before gapless, video, and the other bells and whistles that apple decided to put into iTunes 7. obviously others will want the bells and whistles but hey, that's why this is only worth 2 cents.

Well, yes adding gapless isn't as straighforward as I would have hoped. It doesn't help I don't have a compatible iPod to test it.

Next version will have better compatiblility with iTunes 7. So at least you can use iTunes for gapless scanning and foo_dop won't undo it. It also uses metadata from the files (and keeps a cache) rather than using the metadata from the iPod's database for display in foobar2000. Its slower (especially first time) but at least allows for possibility of metadata field mappings in the future (and it works beter in general..).
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Reply #246 –
musicmusic with iTunes 7 adding gapless playback to the iPod, is their any chance for you to add support for auto track splitting.  I have many mixes that are in CUE+MP3 format, and it would be great if foo_dop could use the CUE to split the one big MP3 file into multiple tracks with the proper gaplass data.

Would this even be possible with foobar2000?

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Reply #247 –
Quote from: Skates on
It would be great if foo_dop could use the CUE to split the one big MP3 file into multiple tracks with the proper gaplass data.

Would this even be possible with foobar2000?
I don't think it is...

I have an additional request, though.  Is there any way we could transfert rating tags to the ipod ML, and if so, what format should they be in?  1-5? 0-100?
Do you know if it would be possible to code (easily) a piece of software that took the itunesML rating info and pushed it as metadata on the ipod?

Also, for smart playlists, are they automatically generated on the iPod at every load?  I thought I noticed them being created on iTunes, and transferred as regular playlists.  If that's the case, perhaps we could send autoplaylists as playlists on the iPod?

Will iPod sync in iTunes undo anything foo_dop has done, in case of further metadata rehandling?

Thanks for your time,
Tristan.

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Reply #248 –
I f**kin' hate the new gapless feature !!! You can't disable it anywhere. It wades straight in and screws any custom tags you might have created with foo_pod. Is there any word on making custom tags with TAGZ using foo_dop ? I can't wait !

'Add as video' would be great - its the only reason I'm using itunes in the first place. Even then it's such slow sh1t. Tell you what itunes - just load it to the pod and let me worry about compatibility.  AARRRGH. iTunes is absolutely anathema to iPod. How can one be so great, and one so awful. New 5.1G pods are actually a step back too. Much slower to load, and to locate files to playback

cheers

Niels

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Reply #249 –
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I have an additional request, though.  Is there any way we could transfert rating tags to the ipod ML, and if so, what format should they be in?  1-5? 0-100?

0-5 I think.

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Do you know if it would be possible to code (easily) a piece of software that took the itunesML rating info and pushed it as metadata on the ipod?
I don't understand.

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Also, for smart playlists, are they automatically generated on the iPod at every load?

No Idea, sorry.

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If that's the case, perhaps we could send autoplaylists as playlists on the iPod?
No Autoplaylist API => Not possible

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Will iPod sync in iTunes undo anything foo_dop has done, in case of further metadata rehandling?
Yes, maybe even including deleting all your songs sent by foo_dop from your iPod.

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Thanks for your time,
Tristan.
You're welcome


Quote from: clunesy on
I f**kin' hate the new gapless feature !!! You can't disable it anywhere. It wades straight in and screws any custom tags you might have created with foo_pod.
Yes, I noticed it rewrites all the metadata in the DB also 

But foo_dop 0.3.0 TEST will be released soon. Then after iTunes has done it once, it shouldn't do it again (until you send more files using foo_dop..)



Quote from: clunesy on
Is there any word on making custom tags with TAGZ using foo_dop ? I can't wait !
It would be easy to add after 0.3.0. Maybe for 0.3.1. Only configuration is worrying, there are quite a few fields these days..

Quote from: clunesy on
'Add as video' would be great - its the only reason I'm using itunes in the first place.

Now I bought a "5.5G" iPod Video it could be more motivation for me to add it

BTW do you find that the games (e.g. breakout) go jerky during MP3 playback?
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