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Reply #175
If I just want my AAC files' SoundCheck data set from their RG data, how would I go about doing that? I tried sending one to the iPod through foo_dop, then sending it through iTunes and rewriting the RG data and then the database from foo_dop. Neither worked.

If its an exisiting file, you need to make sure it has replaygain data, and run the "Reload iPod library metadata.." command. But that will also rewrite all the metadata to the database.

For new files, you just need to make sure they have replaygain data before sending them.

I sometimes get this error when unmounting:


iPodService Error: Invalid iPod Handle, Code: 8004E06A/-2147164054

Notes and changelog moved here. Read them first!



I don't know what causes it. But I'll try and work around it.

two questions :

is there any way to get album art on my ipod using this plugin instead of itunes ?
No, sorry.

The playlist "Ipod Media Library" is on my playlist switcher ...is it okay to delete this? There are no songs in it and i want to make sure it's safe to delete without messing my ipod up.
You can do what you like with it

also...this doesnt have to do with the plugin but does anyone know how i can disable songs from remembering the spot they were last played so when i click on it it will start from the beginning on my ipod...not the last spot it was stopped.
Open iTunes, find the song on your iPod, right click, select "Get Info", and disable "Remember playback position".

This plugin is great. For me now, there are two things missing for me to drop iTunes forever:

1. Ability to send videos to the iPod (doesn't matter if foobar cannot visualize them)

But foobar needs to be able to handle them. AFAIK iPod videos may have extensions mov, mp4 and m4v. Out of those, I think only mp4 will load into foobar2000. But in foobar it just looks like an audio file, no? So either I would read the container myself, or hack it with metadata. They would need categorising anyway ("TV Show", "Music Video", im sure I saw "Movies" on the actual 5G iPod as well..), in fact categorising is the only thing that I really need to do. But its still a problem, because a file without those tags wll end up in the music list. For m4v, it could be assumed its video, but I'd need to get it loading into foobar first.

Ideally, it would also check if the video format is compatible with the iPod. But I don't see that happening.

2. Some way of uploading podcasts to the iPod (and even better: download them from RSS feeds storing all data on the iPod itself, allowing for download from multiple locations).
That's not really on my to-do list, sorry. I may look at it once I finished implementing what I wanted to do.
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Reply #176
firstly, thanks musicmusic for taking on this task.  Without you we wouldn't have a great UI (Columns) nor would we have iPod support in 0.9, so thank you.

However, I do have just one feature request before I can really start using this.  The field remapping feature from foo_pod is exceedingly useful.  Because the iPod doesn't support "Album Artist", I was using foo_pod to remap the %album artist% tag to %artist% so that I could browse my iPod and have artist/album working properly.  If you could add this to your todo list, I and anyone else who uses the %album artist% tag would be most appreciative.

Obviously I don't expect this to happen overnight, but if you could add to your list of wanted features to implemented at some future point, I would be most pleased.

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Reply #177
firstly, thanks musicmusic for taking on this task.  Without you we wouldn't have a great UI (Columns) nor would we have iPod support in 0.9, so thank you.

However, I do have just one feature request before I can really start using this.  The field remapping feature from foo_pod is exceedingly useful.  Because the iPod doesn't support "Album Artist", I was using foo_pod to remap the %album artist% tag to %artist% so that I could browse my iPod and have artist/album working properly.  If you could add this to your todo list, I and anyone else who uses the %album artist% tag would be most appreciative.

Obviously I don't expect this to happen overnight, but if you could add to your list of wanted features to implemented at some future point, I would be most pleased.

there's a feature request list here. It might be best to add it there...


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Reply #179
None of my files have replaygain information, and I don't plan on adding it (as I only have a USB 1.1 port and the thought of readding 3000+ files makes me want to cry). Is there any plan to implement a normal SoundCheck the way certain other programs do? (I never really understood replaygain or its advantage anyways)

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Reply #180
I only have a USB 1.1 port and the thought of readding 3000+ files makes me want to cry). Is there any plan to implement a normal SoundCheck the way certain other programs do?


Yeah, I obviously second that! 

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Reply #181
You could always use iTunes.

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Reply #182
"Album art integration (check for an image based on a set of rules (like foo_uie_albumart) and add as album art if present)"

That's what I read in the request list. Do u mean that it will be able to add album art so that it will be viewable on the iPod? Or else, how does iTunes add covers to the files? I'm a beginner with foobar and I don't understand very much, any help will be appreciated. I am trying to clone iTunes with Foobar

If it isn't possible to add cover art to the files, then why not? Could you explain this to me?

FerdiV

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Reply #183
"Album art integration (check for an image based on a set of rules (like foo_uie_albumart) and add as album art if present)"

That's what I read in the request list. Do u mean that it will be able to add album art so that it will be viewable on the iPod? Or else, how does iTunes add covers to the files? I'm a beginner with foobar and I don't understand very much, any help will be appreciated. I am trying to clone iTunes with Foobar

If it isn't possible to add cover art to the files, then why not? Could you explain this to me?

FerdiV

it's theoretically possible, just not implemented... wait for musicmusic to catch his breath and he might add it - or do it yourself, after all, the sourcecode is available... i know that anapod is able to add album-art automatically but the rest of the software stinks.

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Reply #184
Would custom field mapping and custom sorting be possible?

I use %STYLE% tags, and would like %STYLE% or %GENRE% - %STYLE% to be mapped to <GENRE>...
Also, I'd like to sort composers by last name...

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Reply #185
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Also, I'd like to sort composers by last name...

that's what the foobar2000 scripting is there for. just read the manual.

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Reply #186
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Also, I'd like to sort composers by last name...

that's what the foobar2000 scripting is there for. just read the manual.

on my iPod?...

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Reply #187
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Also, I'd like to sort composers by last name...

that's what the foobar2000 scripting is there for. just read the manual.

on my iPod?...

how do you suppose a foobar-plugin can change the way your ipod sorts songs? and if you just want to make the last name appear first in the tags, that, in fact, is possible with scripts (although i'm rather confused why you would want to do that - after all, how would any AI know whether "Smashing Pumpkins" or "Michael Jackson" are names of artists or bands... and while "Jackson, Michael" my seem reasonable I myself wouldn't want to have "Pumpkins, Smashing" showing up under artists).

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Reply #188
Please note I did say I wanted COMPOSERS sorted.  They generally only have real names (eg. "Pink Floyd" isn't a composer").  I also don't want to change my tags on the files, but as is said in the Changelog,
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The sort order of tracks in the library on your iPod may be a bit different after rewrite.
I'm not sure your insisting behaviour and demeaning attitude is useful, at all.  If musicmusic isn't able to work this type of feature in, he'll mention it himself -- It seems he is able to make the iPod ignore "THE"s in front of artist names while sorting, though, so I'm guessing the sort order is fixed in the iPod Database (probably by key number or something -- I haven't looked at the reverse engineering work)


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Reply #190
However, I do have just one feature request before I can really start using this.  The field remapping feature from foo_pod is exceedingly useful.  Because the iPod doesn't support "Album Artist", I was using foo_pod to remap the %album artist% tag to %artist% so that I could browse my iPod and have artist/album working properly.  If you could add this to your todo list, I and anyone else who uses the %album artist% tag would be most appreciative.

I don't have anything against it. But the main problem is, the reload metadata function. On file formats foobar does not support or when the read otherwise fails, the old metadata read from the database will be kept. But I don't see any good method for foobar to tell me which files it failed on. So those files would end up being mapped again (since reverse mappings isn't going to work reliably either). If I can find a workaround or something then I don't mind implementing it. But like you say I don't plan to try and implement this anytime soon.

None of my files have replaygain information, and I don't plan on adding it (as I only have a USB 1.1 port and the thought of readding 3000+ files makes me want to cry). Is there any plan to implement a normal SoundCheck the way certain other programs do? (I never really understood replaygain or its advantage anyways)
I don't really understand. I don't use iTunes so I don't know how soundcheck differs from replaygain. But you can replaygain scan all the files on your iPod and do a reload metadata... from the iPod menu.

"Album art integration (check for an image based on a set of rules (like foo_uie_albumart) and add as album art if present)"

That's what I read in the request list. Do u mean that it will be able to add album art so that it will be viewable on the iPod? Or else, how does iTunes add covers to the files? I'm a beginner with foobar and I don't understand very much, any help will be appreciated. I am trying to clone iTunes with Foobar

If it isn't possible to add cover art to the files, then why not? Could you explain this to me?

FerdiV
3G iPod doesn't really support album art. So it would be difficult for me to implement it even if I wanted to.

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Would custom field mapping and custom sorting be possible?

I use %STYLE% tags, and would like %STYLE% or %GENRE% - %STYLE% to be mapped to <GENRE>...
Also, I'd like to sort composers by last name...

Custom sorting is possible to implement yes. Maybe one day.. for now you may as well put it in the feature requests list.. Custom field mappings is answered above.

...or do it yourself, after all, the sourcecode is available...
Ummm... and where might that be?
Maybe he meant foobar2000 SDK  Otherwise, source code sits on my hard drive..
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Reply #191
For custom field mapping, I was thinking : why not enable them only on transferring the file to the iPod?  Or on specific filetypes? (ie. mp3, m4a only)  Since foobar natively reads those files and their tags, there shouldn't be an issue with custom mapping, should there?

Or do you have to read the _whole_ database?  I presume you could filter by filetype -- the database must have filename in it somewhere...

Otherwise, if you share the ideas you've had with us, maybe we can all brainstorm together.

Thanks (and good luck!),
Tristan.

PS :  I have a few albums called "greatest hits" (by different artists) -- I'm not sure if this is possible, but can you tell the database not to display them all as being in same album "greatest hits" when loading the "albums" view?  Otherwise, I guess I'll have to change my tags...

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Reply #192
I just wanted to put in a second request for the replaygain 'pre-amp' option.  My reasons aren't for a volume limited IPod.  I mostly play the Ipod over a RoadTrip to an FM radio.  I've been keeping 2 copies of my files and using MP3Gain to set the "Ipod" copy to -97db.  Why do such a horrible thing?  Well, firstly, it's in the car, so fidelty isn't of the most concern.  Secondly, at -89db, the IPod dock output is so quiet that if I go back to FM radio accidentally, I end up taking a month off of my hearing since FM is WAY WAY louder than -89db.

* there was no science behind -97db; i picked it because at -98db almost 100% of my files clipped while at -97db only about 70% did.  That probably tells you alot about my cd collection and age!

-Michael

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Reply #193
I just wanted to put in a second request for the replaygain 'pre-amp' option.  My reasons aren't for a volume limited IPod.  I mostly play the Ipod over a RoadTrip to an FM radio.  I've been keeping 2 copies of my files and using MP3Gain to set the "Ipod" copy to -97db.  Why do such a horrible thing?  Well, firstly, it's in the car, so fidelty isn't of the most concern.  Secondly, at -89db, the IPod dock output is so quiet that if I go back to FM radio accidentally, I end up taking a month off of my hearing since FM is WAY WAY louder than -89db.

* there was no science behind -97db; i picked it because at -98db almost 100% of my files clipped while at -97db only about 70% did.  That probably tells you alot about my cd collection and age!

-Michael


I was just thinking the same thing...

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Reply #194
Hi musicmusic,
Thanks for taking on this project, i only keep foobar2000 8.3 because it has foo_pod, it will be nice to have it all in one package.
I saw dynamic transcoding is already in the feature request list, i wonder how highly you rate the importance of such a function and if you have made any progress in this direction?
Cheers

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Reply #195
Hi musicmusic,
Thanks for taking on this project, i only keep foobar2000 8.3 because it has foo_pod, it will be nice to have it all in one package.
I saw dynamic transcoding is already in the feature request list, i wonder how highly you rate the importance of such a function and if you have made any progress in this direction?
Cheers

Haha. I PMed him about a similar request  on custom field mapping.  No answer.  We're such leeches

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Reply #196
Had another odd sorting bug.  The band ℃-ute is getting sorted under C instead of under symbols.  I checked the tag on my computer and it is using the UTF8 E28483 value in the tag for the precomposed ℃ symbol.  I suspect at some point in the transfer or indexing it's being decomposed to C + the degree symbol (U+00B0 + U+0043) with the degree symbol being ignored for the sorting.  I've noticed in the past that iTunes likes to always compose characters if it can even if there are precomposed versions for them in the unicode version you're using (it gets really annoying with kana), so it may be an effect from that.  All the files by that group were transferred with foo_dop though...

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Reply #197
It does seem slow here (sorry if that's ungrateful). I'm prepared to help however I can - 5G testing, and of course cold hard $$$. Are you interested in donations, mm ?

 

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Reply #198
I am wondering how

I am wondering how I can get this plugin to copy songs from my Ipod to my HD? Is there a way? I have YamiPod, but would really like to be able to do it all my ITunes...Thanks

P.S Why don't you rename your plugin to foo_pod, considering it picks up where the last author left off? I prefer that name

Thanks

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Reply #199
P.S Why don't you rename your plugin to foo_pod, considering it picks up where the last author left off? I prefer that name


foo_pod is aero's plugin, and this is not aero's plugin, it is completely new.  as much as foo_pod is the more logical name, it's already been taken