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Lossy Audio Compression => MP3 => MP3 - General => Topic started by: anykey on 2005-01-09 18:01:36

Title: how do I indentify MP3Pro files using MrQ/EncSpot
Post by: anykey on 2005-01-09 18:01:36
Hello, I used to rip my CDs into MP3Pro. I now know better and use EAC with LAME. My collection is now muddled and I don't know which are MP3s and which are MP3Pro's.

I have used MrQuestionMan and EncSpot and while it tells me the codec I do not know which one is MP3Pro. They are displayed as MPEG 1 Layer 3 followed by Blade, FhG, LAME, Shine, Xing and so on.

I have spent the afternoon searching this forum and Googling. I am now going round in circles. Please clarify things for me. 

Which one is MP3Pro? 
Title: how do I indentify MP3Pro files using MrQ/EncSpot
Post by: anykey on 2005-01-10 21:49:54
  

I should be grateful if you would tell me how to identify MP3Pro files using MrQ or EncSpot.
Title: how do I indentify MP3Pro files using MrQ/EncSpot
Post by: yong on 2005-01-11 11:15:52
For normal MP3 file, encspot should show it is MPEG-1 layer 3,
for mp3pro, it should be MPEG-2 layer 3, sample rate is 22050Hz...

Sorry if my reply isn't good enough...
Title: how do I indentify MP3Pro files using MrQ/EncSpot
Post by: anykey on 2005-01-11 22:44:15
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For normal MP3 file, encspot should show it is MPEG-1 layer 3,
for mp3pro, it should be MPEG-2 layer 3, sample rate is 22050Hz...

Sorry if my reply isn't good enough...
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Many thanks yong that's just what I wanted 
Title: how do I indentify MP3Pro files using MrQ/EncSpot
Post by: geopoul on 2005-01-12 02:54:39
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For normal MP3 file, encspot should show it is MPEG-1 layer 3,
for mp3pro, it should be MPEG-2 layer 3, sample rate is 22050Hz...
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If the sample rate is 22050Hz then the file is not necessarily mp3pro. The converse is true though, so if a file's sample rate is 22050Hz then this file is a candidate for being mp3pro. You can open such files with winamp to figure out. You must have the mp3pro plugin installed for this to work.
Title: how do I indentify MP3Pro files using MrQ/EncSpot
Post by: music_man_mpc on 2005-01-12 03:54:25
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For normal MP3 file, encspot should show it is MPEG-1 layer 3,
for mp3pro, it should be MPEG-2 layer 3, sample rate is 22050Hz...
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If the sample rate is 22050Hz then the file is not necessarily mp3pro. The converse is true though, so if a file's sample rate is 22050Hz then this file is a candidate for being mp3pro. You can open such files with winamp to figure out. You must have the mp3pro plugin installed for this to work.
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I think if anykey finds any 22kHz mp3 (non-pro) files on his computer he should probably get rid of those as well .
Title: how do I indentify MP3Pro files using MrQ/EncSpot
Post by: yong on 2005-01-12 11:44:56
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If the sample rate is 22050Hz then the file is not necessarily mp3pro. The converse is true though, so if a file's sample rate is 22050Hz then this file is a candidate for being mp3pro. You can open such files with winamp to figure out. You must have the mp3pro plugin installed for this to work.
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Yes yes, you have to figure out yourself, with audio player.
sometime is hard to tell which file is normal mp3 or mp3pro,
if you encode a wav file with lame with --lowpass 11 switch,
the mp3 file will be MPEG-2 layer 3...(don't know the sample rate, might same as 22050Hz)  , but encspot will tell you the mp3 file have LAME header.

Usually the encspot will show the encoder is Fhg if the file is mp3pro.
Title: how do I indentify MP3Pro files using MrQ/EncSpot
Post by: anykey on 2005-01-12 17:16:59
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For normal MP3 file, encspot should show it is MPEG-1 layer 3,
for mp3pro, it should be MPEG-2 layer 3, sample rate is 22050Hz...
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=264449"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

If the sample rate is 22050Hz then the file is not necessarily mp3pro. The converse is true though, so if a file's sample rate is 22050Hz then this file is a candidate for being mp3pro. You can open such files with winamp to figure out. You must have the mp3pro plugin installed for this to work.
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I think if anykey finds any 22kHz mp3 (non-pro) files on his computer he should probably get rid of those as well .
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Thank You music_man. That is good advice. However I hope I don't have any that bad 
Title: how do I indentify MP3Pro files using MrQ/EncSpot
Post by: anykey on 2005-01-12 17:19:27
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For normal MP3 file, encspot should show it is MPEG-1 layer 3,
for mp3pro, it should be MPEG-2 layer 3, sample rate is 22050Hz...
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=264449"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

If the sample rate is 22050Hz then the file is not necessarily mp3pro. The converse is true though, so if a file's sample rate is 22050Hz then this file is a candidate for being mp3pro. You can open such files with winamp to figure out. You must have the mp3pro plugin installed for this to work.
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Thank You geopoul. With your help I am now begginning to understand this. I find it so confusing, but I am gradually getting rid of the poor quality stuff and redoing the ripping with EAC and LAME. 
Title: how do I indentify MP3Pro files using MrQ/EncSpot
Post by: geopoul on 2005-01-13 02:28:18
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You can open such files with winamp ....
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My reference to winamp should not be missunderdtood. I don't use this program
Title: how do I indentify MP3Pro files using MrQ/EncSpot
Post by: anykey on 2005-01-13 19:10:20
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You can open such files with winamp ....
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My reference to winamp should not be missunderdtood. I don't use this program
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it's ok geopoul, it goes without saying 

However, what can you tell me of a pc mp3 player called Billy...
Title: how do I indentify MP3Pro files using MrQ/EncSpot
Post by: eyebex on 2005-11-30 23:21:09
A while back I wrote a command line utility which uses Thomson's free mp3PRO Winamp plug-in to detect mp3PRO files and renames them. Get it here: http://threekings.tk/download/mp3tyre.rar (http://threekings.tk/download/mp3tyre.rar)
Title: how do I indentify MP3Pro files using MrQ/EncSpot
Post by: chrizoo on 2008-08-11 02:21:27
A while back I wrote a command line utility which uses Thomson's free mp3PRO Winamp plug-in to detect mp3PRO files and renames them. Get it here: http://threekings.tk/download/mp3tyre.rar (http://threekings.tk/download/mp3tyre.rar)

That utility would be wonderful. The link is broken now. Can you upload it elsewhere ?
Many thanks!
Title: how do I indentify MP3Pro files using MrQ/EncSpot
Post by: incunabula on 2008-08-11 02:35:12
You'll never guess where i found it!!

http://www.google.com/search?q=mp3tyre (http://www.google.com/search?q=mp3tyre)
Title: how do I indentify MP3Pro files using MrQ/EncSpot
Post by: chrizoo on 2008-08-11 04:08:36
ooooh. ... sorry, somehow I thought it was something very experimental and unknown so I didn't even search. I pledge not to sin again ...