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Mp3 Settings

I had a problem with mpc files not sounding like the original wav file due to the settings in winamp when the eq was on.

I have a similar problem with mp3 files.  when I encode wav to mp3 with stardard settings, the mp3 has too much bass.  when I decode the mp3 to wav again, the original wav and the new wav sound exactly the same.

Im assuming I need to change the settings in winamp but do not know which one.

can anyone help pleeeease!

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Reply #1 –
My best suggestion is to never use EQ
If you must use EQ, use it wisely:
If you want "x" kHz to be louder, lower all but "x".
Another (possible) sollution may be to MP3Gain your files.

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Reply #2 –
MP3 plugin also uses it's own EQ by default, to change that to Winamp's generic EQ go to preferences (ctrl-P), select Plug-ins -> Input -> Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder, hit configure and disable "Fast Layer 3 EQ" under "Decoder" tab.

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Reply #3 –
Are both EQ bad quality? The internal one and the external one?
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Honda - The Power of Dreams

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Reply #4 –
perfect  (w00t)

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Reply #5 –
I just want everything to use the winamp eq so I can compare audio codecs.  Its a bit difficult when each codec uses its own eq.

But everything seems to be perfect now.

Im so happy (w00t)

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Reply #6 –
Hmm, didn't the WinAmp eq completely destroy over 16khz frequencies. This was the case iirc at least some versions ago. Haven't checked lately..
Juha Laaksonheimo

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Reply #7 –
Yeah that was the case, with the WinAmp EQ's, as far as I know WinAmp 3 still has this bug  !
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Honda - The Power of Dreams

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Reply #8 –
why is their EQ so shit?

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Reply #9 –
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I just want everything to use the winamp eq so I can compare audio codecs.

Using an equalizer doesn't seem to be a fair way to do so.

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Reply #10 –
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Hmm, didn't the WinAmp eq completely destroy over 16khz frequencies. This was the case iirc at least some versions ago. Haven't checked lately..

That's for the winamp EQ ( the one that jenny wants to use ).
The MP3 EQ comes from applying the EQ settings on the bands of the MP3 file.
The problem of using the MP3 EQ (in mp3's of course) is that since there are just 10 sliders in the EQ window, and more bands in the MP3 (don't know how many), then some sliders modify more than one mp3 band, and I think that the higher bands are not modified (read >16Khz)

In conclusion: None of the EQ's is good. One because it is low quality, the other because it's too simple.

Note: Don't take this as a fact, because this is just a deduction after having seen other EQ's.

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Reply #11 –
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I just want everything to use the winamp eq so I can compare audio codecs.

Using an equalizer doesn't seem to be a fair way to do so.

Yeah, I'd have to agree with this.  There's too much room for error when using all kinds of eq-ing, and plus you will end up doing bad things like breaking the masking and stuff used in some cases.

If you really want to compare audio codecs, the best way to do it would be not to use winamp at all, but to decode the different formats back to .wav files and load them up in something like pcabx, or ff123's utility on his page: http://www.ff123.net

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Reply #12 –
So basically the EQ is modifying more than one MP3 band, and thus effecting the quality of the resulting audio sound, so we need and EQ that can modify the MP3 bands excatly, for it to reproduce correctly?

BTW, as a side note then wouldn't the Winamp EQ be better, as that modifies the audio output before it reaches the output plugin? And theoretically the MP3 bands will not come into play.

Anyways its been proven Winamp EQ sucks >16khz, so if you need to use and EQ gets Shibata's EQ from Rarewares!
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