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Title: new asio component
Post by: amiti on 2006-04-13 11:36:01
what is bit format of the new asio component? i saw  the bitdepth options are unavalible when choosing asio output and dither option is avalible. does that mean it is only 16bit?

Amit
Title: new asio component
Post by: Funkstar De Luxe on 2006-04-13 12:07:12
I have the same question. However since my card only supporst 24bit, I assume the ASIO output is not only 16bit
Title: new asio component
Post by: foosion on 2006-04-13 12:08:46
The audio stream is converted (per channel) to the format reported by the driver.
Title: new asio component
Post by: Funkstar De Luxe on 2006-04-13 13:03:40
Thanks.  Everything works perfectly with my setup.
Title: new asio component
Post by: boombaard on 2006-04-13 13:05:07
The audio stream is converted (per channel) to the format reported by the driver.


neat .. ASIO makes all sounds sound like they're produced by a synthesizer.. mind telling me why?
(Using Creative X-Fi ExtremeMusic)
it's sort of cute, but i'm not sure if it's what i want to hear all day..
There's an echo thing involved in it, when i listen to sung pieces.. but it also deforms some of the lower/heavier vocals to the point where they crack a bit.
happens with all possible settings, and i don't have any 'odd' settings enabled in my x-fi software bundle, it's configured pretty much only with defaults
Title: new asio component
Post by: amiti on 2006-04-13 13:06:27
thanks for the answer .

i have ESI juli@ soundcard. the plugin works only with the asio4all driver and not with the hardware asio driver.it cannot read the channel info when using the esi driver.
Title: new asio component
Post by: kaiwei on 2006-04-13 15:05:48
Hmmmm,

I'm using both M-Audio Delta Dio 2496 (max 24bit, 96Mhz) & Apogee MiniDac (24bit, 192Mhz).

Added both of them fine in the ASIO device editor but when playing a track, the track plays but silently??? Tried all sort of mapping and can't hear the test signal too. Strange.

Moreover, the M-Audio is reported as 32bit while the Apogee is 16bit. Maybe someone can enlighten me on this?
Title: new asio component
Post by: parrot5 on 2006-04-13 17:21:48
Hmmmm,

I'm using both M-Audio Delta Dio 2496 (max 24bit, 96Mhz) & Apogee MiniDac (24bit, 192Mhz).

Added both of them fine in the ASIO device editor but when playing a track, the track plays but silently??? Tried all sort of mapping and can't hear the test signal too. Strange.

Moreover, the M-Audio is reported as 32bit while the Apogee is 16bit. Maybe someone can enlighten me on this?

My M-Audio Revolution 5.1 doesn't work with 0.91's ASIO too (so does someone else's Emu0404).  Same problem as yours, plays silently with no error message.

About the 32-bit thing, my M-Audio Revolution 5.1 is reported as 32bit too, and I've always used 32-bit with it when I had Foobar 0.83 ASIO/Kernel Streaming with no problem.
Title: new asio component
Post by: kaiwei on 2006-04-13 18:31:01
aha, I guess the funny thing is that it's not 32bit floating, which I can at least take it to mean that that is the player's output resolution but 32bit? My card is 24 bit and I can't change?

Why's the Apogee 16bit then?

Oh well. Guess we'll have to wait for later versions of ASIO to work for us.
Title: new asio component
Post by: TBM on 2006-04-13 18:36:05
ASIO dll on 0.9.1.b1 works fine! I am using ASIO4ALL and a USB DAC. 

Tom
Title: new asio component
Post by: kaiwei on 2006-04-13 18:42:33
ASIO4ALL is basically WDM Kernel-Streaming through the ASIO API. I would rather use Apogee's low latency drivers, that is if I can get them working haha. Great news for you though.
Title: new asio component
Post by: markanini on 2006-04-13 19:30:26
Silent with Emu 1212m too.
Title: new asio component
Post by: MagusG on 2006-04-13 20:12:22
Where can one find this new ASIO dll?
Title: new asio component
Post by: Stuart60611 on 2006-04-13 20:15:48
Where can one find this new ASIO dll?



Dito.  Could someone please post the link to the new asio.dll
Title: new asio component
Post by: boombaard on 2006-04-13 20:46:22

Where can one find this new ASIO dll?



Dito.  Could someone please post the link to the new asio.dll


http://www.foobar2000.org/beta/ (http://www.foobar2000.org/beta/) and
http://www.foobar2000.org/beta/components.html (http://www.foobar2000.org/beta/components.html) (just so you won't post a follow-up with a 'i can't find it there', since clicking the totally obvious 'additional components' button was too much of a stretch as well)

anyway, as you might've guessed, not everything seems to be quite working yet.
Title: new asio component
Post by: qrat on 2006-04-13 23:15:19
ASIO works fine with my Audiotrak Maya EX5 which is USB card. This card provides the ASIO driver which was made by Steinberg.
Title: new asio component
Post by: kaiwei on 2006-04-14 13:12:47
Ok I think I sort of figured it out. The Apogee MiniDAC is working fine now at 24bit.

Firstly, the bitdept under "format" in the ASIO Virtual Device Editor is the ASIO resolution and not your soundcard bitdepth. Using Apogee's control panel, I can change it to 16, 24 or 32. I figured out the mapping and now the MiniDAC works fine.

M-Audio ASIO still plays silently though.
Title: new asio component
Post by: dennis_em on 2006-04-14 18:01:53
I use the new asio component on my M-Audio FW410 Audio interface,the component can't work.

When foobar 0.9 playback music with ASIO, I only hear the noise
Title: new asio component
Post by: MagusG on 2006-04-14 18:51:17
I can confirm that the ASIO driver is not working with my Emu 0404, I don't get an error, just no sound.  I have tried all available port mappings.
-Mag
Title: new asio component
Post by: everfantasia on 2006-04-15 18:55:38
The ASIO plug-in on 0.9.1.beta works fine with my Audigy 2 ZS Notebook! It has detected two ASIO devices of the sound card: one 16bit, another 32 bit.
Title: new asio component
Post by: Rozzo on 2006-04-15 19:40:47
Works fine here with Creative Asio, Sound Blaster x-fi, 32 bits x channel.

Thanks,
Rozzo
Title: new asio component
Post by: djet on 2006-04-15 23:32:03
With my Audiotrak (ESI) ProDigy 7.1LT it almost hangs WinXP. The mouse movements becomes jerky and I even can't call Task Manager.
Title: new asio component
Post by: theWANDERER on 2006-04-16 00:04:11
with my 1212m, foobar2000 seems not load it, I cant see it in the component list, and I cant select any output device with asio.

however, after I change the name of the .dll into .old. restart foobar2000, foobar2000 told me that foo_out_asio is removed.....

it's kind of strange

  but I'm still happy about the development of the plugin.

Thank you
Title: new asio component
Post by: Dandruff on 2006-04-16 17:27:32
asio output works fine here (rme hdsp9632).



but i found one problem/bug:

- change the buffersize in your asio-driver-panel: sound stops in foobar. this (buffersize changes on the fly) were possible with otachan's asio-plugin for foobar 0.8.x!
Title: new asio component
Post by: Alex B on 2006-04-16 19:21:24
My Terratec DMX6 fire 24/96 has the same symptom. It plays only silence with the original Terratec ASIO driver.

The ASIO4ALL v.2.6 driver can produce audio with my Terratec card, but the sound is seriously distorded. The combination produces a constant crackling artifact.

I have tried all available configuration options. Foobar 0.83 with ASIO output 0.49 SSE2 (exe version) does not have these problems on this PC.


Win XP / Intel 865PE chipset / P4
Title: new asio component
Post by: ReDVsion on 2006-04-17 20:58:19
Same problems with an M-Audio Audiophile 192, no sound, tried every option I could think of.
Title: new asio component
Post by: vairulez on 2006-04-18 15:31:16
Same problems with an M-Audio Audiophile 192, no sound, tried every option I could think of.

if you want asio to work with an m-audio you have to use 24 bit padded to 32 bit, is it still there in 0.9 (I use 0.8.3)
Title: new asio component
Post by: ReDVsion on 2006-04-19 04:19:31

Same problems with an M-Audio Audiophile 192, no sound, tried every option I could think of.

if you want asio to work with an m-audio you have to use 24 bit padded to 32 bit, is it still there in 0.9 (I use 0.8.3)

ASIO in 0.9.1b1 is supposed to automatically choose the appropriate bit depth. And you don't *have* to use 24-bit padded to 32-bit, straight 32-bit works just fine.
Title: new asio component
Post by: marae on 2006-04-20 01:43:03
Hello,

when you have more then one asio device you have a message like "trouble enumerating ..."

tips: del not used HKLM\software\asio ... before to map


also I confirm that emu 1212m not working, no error, but no sound

cheers
Title: new asio component
Post by: Dandruff on 2006-04-23 07:25:16
asio output works fine here (rme hdsp9632).



but i found one problem/bug:

- change the buffersize in your asio-driver-panel: sound stops in foobar.

not fixed in 0.9.1 final
Title: new asio component
Post by: djet on 2006-04-23 16:04:57
ASIO still broken with 0.9.1 final.
Title: new asio component
Post by: Pusherman on 2006-04-24 14:48:23
Me too, no sound from ASIO with M-Audio Delta 192 (0.9.1 final).
Title: new asio component
Post by: master on 2006-04-24 15:24:33
Same here for EMU 1820m. EMU ASIO added under ASIO Virtual Devices, select EMU ASIO from output @ 32-bit data format, no sound can be heard.

KS no problem though.

Will continue to use 0.9.1 since I need wma support.
Title: new asio component
Post by: PedroElGringo on 2006-04-25 01:37:06
Found something strange with my m-audio firewire audiophile.
In the m-audio control panel, when the asio buffer size is set to 256, I can't hear any sound, which is the case for all m-audio owner.
But when I set it to max, 2048 I hear a strange sound when playing music, which is half music half distorted sound, as if the computer was too slow.
If set to 1024, I hear a bit more sound and a bit less music.
I can sum up like this, the higher the buffer size, the more music, I should be able to set bufer size to 10,000 to hear the normal music.

Hope this can help fix the problem
Title: new asio component
Post by: kaiwei on 2006-04-25 10:28:31
Under ASIO Fb2k ver 0.91, I am unable to use my Apogee MiniDAC for 96kHz playback. The error message received is

Quote
Unrecoverable playback error: The ASIO device does not support specified sample rate (96000Hz); please configure resampler appropriately


16bit, 44.1kHz material is fine or 24bit 96kHz played using DS is fine too.

???
Title: new asio component
Post by: TrNSZ on 2006-04-25 15:48:10
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Title: new asio component
Post by: Pusherman on 2006-04-25 17:36:21
Edit: Nothing
Title: new asio component
Post by: TheSlip on 2006-04-25 20:20:28
If you are having problems getting sound from your ASIO device, please post (in a codebox!) the results of "asiodump (http://www.republika.pl/roed/asiodump/asiodump.zip) -l 3" for us to see.

By any chance, does ASIOSigGen (http://www.magma.ca/~gtaylor/ASIOSigGen.zip) work?


I can also confirm the same ASIO problems with my M-Audio Revolution 7.1. Files play without errors (seekbar and playtime advance and activity shows on the spectrum analyzer) but there is no sound. ASIOSigGen works fine. Successfully generated swept tone at both 48kHz and 96kHz. The reported min and max buffer sizes are not correct since it seems to query the selected value in the m-audio control panel. The available buffer sizes are 64 min and 2688 max.

Code: [Select]
======================================================================
Name: M-Audio Revo ASIO
CLSID: {615C2C66-F8EB-11d3-B0B2-0000E8ED4AD9}
Path: D:\WINDOWS\system32\revoasio.dll
Version: 1
Input channels: 2
Output channels 8
Buffer sizes: min 1024, max 1024, preferred 1024, granularity 0
Current sample rate: 96000.00Hz
Supported rates: 32000Hz, 44100Hz, 48000Hz, 88200Hz, 96000Hz, 176400Hz, 192000Hz

ASIOOutputReady: supported
Latencies: input 1024, output 1024
CanInputMonitor: Yes
CanTimeInfo: Yes
CanTimeCode: Yes
CanTransport: No
CanInputGain: No
CanInputMeter: No
SupportPCMFormat: No
CanOutputGain: No
SupportDSDFormat: No
CanOutputMeter: No
Input channel 0 not active
        Name: Analog In 1 Revolution [1]
        Sample type: 18 (ASIOSTInt32LSB)
        Channel group: 0
Input channel 1 not active
        Name: Analog In 2 Revolution [1]
        Sample type: 18 (ASIOSTInt32LSB)
        Channel group: 0
Output channel 0 not active
        Name: Analog Out 1/2 Revolution [1]
        Sample type: 18 (ASIOSTInt32LSB)
        Channel group: 0
Output channel 1 not active
        Name: Analog Out 1/2 Revolution [1]
        Sample type: 18 (ASIOSTInt32LSB)
        Channel group: 0
Output channel 2 not active
        Name: Analog Out 3/4 Revolution [1]
        Sample type: 18 (ASIOSTInt32LSB)
        Channel group: 0
Output channel 3 not active
        Name: Analog Out 3/4 Revolution [1]
        Sample type: 18 (ASIOSTInt32LSB)
        Channel group: 0
Output channel 4 not active
        Name: Analog Out 5/6 Revolution [1]
        Sample type: 18 (ASIOSTInt32LSB)
        Channel group: 0
Output channel 5 not active
        Name: Analog Out 5/6 Revolution [1]
        Sample type: 18 (ASIOSTInt32LSB)
        Channel group: 0
Output channel 6 not active
        Name: Analog Out 7/8 Revolution [1]
        Sample type: 18 (ASIOSTInt32LSB)
        Channel group: 0
Output channel 7 not active
        Name: Analog Out 7/8 Revolution [1]
        Sample type: 18 (ASIOSTInt32LSB)
        Channel group: 0
======================================================================
Title: new asio component
Post by: theWANDERER on 2006-04-25 21:45:37
with my 1212m, foobar2000 seems not load it, I cant see it in the component list, and I cant select any output device with asio.

however, after I change the name of the .dll into .old. restart foobar2000, foobar2000 told me that foo_out_asio is removed.....

Code: [Select]
Found 1 ASIO driver(s).
======================================================================
Name: E-MU ASIO
CLSID: {48653F81-8A2E-11D3-9EF0-00C0F02DD390}
Path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctasio.dll
Version: 2
Input channels: 0
Output channels 2
Buffer sizes: min 88, max 32768, preferred 2200, granularity 4
Current sample rate: 44100.00Hz
Supported rates: 44100Hz, 48000Hz, 88200Hz, 96000Hz, 176400Hz, 192000Hz
ASIOOutputReady: supported
Latencies: input 2271, output 2215
CanInputMonitor: Yes
CanTimeInfo: Yes
CanTimeCode: Yes
CanTransport: Yes
CanInputGain: Yes
CanInputMeter: Yes
SupportPCMFormat: Yes
CanOutputGain: Yes
SupportDSDFormat: Yes
CanOutputMeter: Yes
Output channel 0 not active
    Name: ASIO OUT 1 / 2
    Sample type: 18 (ASIOSTInt32LSB)
    Channel group: 0
Output channel 1 not active
    Name: ASIO OUT 1 / 2
    Sample type: 18 (ASIOSTInt32LSB)
    Channel group: 0
======================================================================
Title: new asio component
Post by: Dandruff on 2006-04-25 22:00:01
I cant see it in the component list

that's OK so
Title: new asio component
Post by: R@M on 2006-04-25 22:05:46
theWANDERER:

Do you have configured the ASIO virtual devices in foobar preferences?
Title: new asio component
Post by: theWANDERER on 2006-04-25 23:42:08
theWANDERER:

Do you have configured the ASIO virtual devices in foobar preferences?



  oops....

I see it... but still no sound after configuring it.

just like other emu users

sorry that I didnt see the setting option under output device lists