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Topic: What's with so much necroposting lately? (Read 11142 times) previous topic - next topic
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What's with so much necroposting lately?

Don't wanna come across as a zealot, but I bet I'm not the only one frustrated when I spot a new post on the homepage - just to discover it's responding to a thread that's been dead and buried for years - or even decades!

More often than not, these are just random thoughts that could easily kick off a new thread, but it seems like in most cases the poster got carried away/excited about the discussion they've just read but didn't even bother checking when the last update was.

I probably got HA's TOS confused with rules from other forums, but before re-reading them, I could've sworn they had rules against that.
• Listen to the music, not the media it's on
• The older, the 'lossier'

Re: What's with so much necroposting lately?

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Don't wanna come across as a zealot, but I bet I'm not the only one frustrated when I spot a new post on the homepage - just to discover it's responding to a thread that's been dead and buried for years - or even decades!

More often than not, these are just random thoughts that could easily kick off a new thread, but it seems like in most cases the poster got carried away/excited about the discussion they've just read but didn't even bother checking when the last update was.

I probably got HA's TOS confused with rules from other forums, but before re-reading them, I could've sworn they had rules against that.

Are you talking  about me :)

Re: What's with so much necroposting lately?

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Nope! I was obviously referring to what, IMO, appears to be a trend - or a bad habit at least.
There'd be no point in singling out any one member.

No need to throw down the gauntlet or put up your dukes.
• Listen to the music, not the media it's on
• The older, the 'lossier'

Re: What's with so much necroposting lately?

Reply #3 –
The "forum" concept has lots its allure to the young generation. They are more interested in reddit and discord and social media? Forums aren't getting attention from them so most of us are probably from older generations. I still think forums have a lot of value. Reviving an old thread is not a bad practice per se, if it serves a purpose. Opening a new thread for every new question or remark is bad practice in my book.

If i remember correctly, hydrogen audio used to have more traffic back in the day when audio compression was big deal when there was no "streaming" services. We all used to carry our own music with us. Those were the times. So yeah, we and this forum probably is a dying breed. I don't really think anybody will need to carry pretty much anything in the near future. It will be up in the cloud.

Re: What's with so much necroposting lately?

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Well, young audiences not caring about anything (or caring about nobodyknows) is equally annoying to the old audiences, who want a www forum to become a well-organized, clean library, who demand every posting to be a scientific work.

Yeah, www forums die. Recently eg, closedown of WATMM music forum was announced.

I'm 50+ and witnessed the glorious days of Usenet. Then witnessed the time when advertising company Google was great and a search engine, you could even find user output with their search, instead of ads.

Re: What's with so much necroposting lately?

Reply #5 –
Thats so funny earlier this day i was thinking about reviving a thread from 2006 just for the meme.

https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,48206.0.html
And so, with digital, computer was put into place, and all the IT that came with it.

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The "forum" concept has lots its allure to the young generation. They are more interested in reddit and discord and social media? Forums aren't getting attention from them so most of us are probably from older generations.
Ending a statement with a question mark instead of constructing the sentence as a question ("Are they...") seems "young generation" to me!

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I still think forums have a lot of value.
Yes.  Social media is almost impossible to search and pushes the trendy at the expense of the relevant.  It encourages low attention spans.

If you want multiple independent technical discussions to thrive over a long period, forums are it.
It's your privilege to disagree, but that doesn't make you right and me wrong.

Re: What's with so much necroposting lately?

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Ending a statement with a question mark instead of constructing the sentence as a question ("Are they...") seems "young generation" to me!
I was thinking the same?

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I don't think it is too weird to try to find the answers in a relevant-looking thread - that is usually considered good practice, rather than starting a new one all the time. Of course we might be off the sweet-spot level of necromancy every now and then.

Remember the forum search functionality is broken and does not return recent results. So users may think the top hit that looks relevant in topic, is the most current one.

Re: What's with so much necroposting lately?

Reply #9 –
I am over 40. Are you really that bothered by one question mark? Sorry, English is not my first language. I took the time to learn yours but it is not perfect i admit.

Re: What's with so much necroposting lately?

Reply #10 –
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Remember the forum search functionality is broken and does not return recent results. So users may think the top hit that looks relevant in topic, is the most current one.
As a makeshift solution, Google's battered-but-trusty
Code: [Select]
"search term" site:hydrogenaud.io
hasn't let me down that much,  serving up everything from helpful hits to downright bizarre finds.

PS: But you're right on the money regarding recent stuff.
• Listen to the music, not the media it's on
• The older, the 'lossier'

Re: What's with so much necroposting lately?

Reply #11 –
Quote from: Porcus on
Of course we might be off the sweet-spot level of necromancy every now and then.
We've practically hit Edward Kelley's levels as of late! ⚰️⚰️
• Listen to the music, not the media it's on
• The older, the 'lossier'

Re: What's with so much necroposting lately?

Reply #12 –
Yes, if you are aware that the forum's search is broken, then you use something else.
"You should suspect it from the results" doesn't always hit home.

Better remove that search than pretend it works.

Re: What's with so much necroposting lately?

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Quote from: lovecraft on
I am over 40. Are you really that bothered by one question mark? Sorry, English is not my first language. I took the time to learn yours but it is not perfect i admit.
Okay, fair enough, that was not obvious – your written English is better than a lot of natives, particularly on the less erudite forums.

I was amused that you commented on the younger generation and then copied them – nothing more.

Perhaps you were not to know, but being serious for a moment the difference between spoken and written English is intonation and body language.  If what one says is unclear, the listener has non-verbal elements to gain more information,  or ultimately can seek clarification.  Not so in the written form, it should be clear by grammar and punctuation – so to answer your question, when the punctuation contradicts the grammar, what is the reader supposed to think?
It's your privilege to disagree, but that doesn't make you right and me wrong.

Re: What's with so much necroposting lately?

Reply #14 –
If necroposting is always wrong, should the forum just auto-lock idle threads after a certain number of months? I'm aware of several forums which do that.

I'm honestly on the fence on that question, although that might belie my own behavior. Sometimes you really do have an important contribution to make to a thread a couple of years after it's died out. (But of course, most of the people who might think that, probably don't.)

Re: What's with so much necroposting lately?

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I for one appreciate that the forum does not auto lock old threads. It's up to people's judgment to decide if something belongs in an existing thread or if a new thread should be started. I don't find using an old thread to continue the topic at all annoying. If the new post is irrelevant I do wonder if the poster is a spam bot waiting to strike, or if his mind works in mysterious ways.

Frankly I'm happy there is still discussion going on, active forum wins a dead one hands down. And starting a new thread has a higher threshold than posting in an existing one.
 

Re: What's with so much necroposting lately?

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Yeah, let's create new topics for every minor problem and spread information thin and make it even less discoverable.

An ADD generation that can only scroll incessantly.