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MP3 decoder

Hello Peter! I just want to know what kind of MP3 decoder you are using for Foobar.. as i am informed the Frauenhoffer codec used in Winamp has some compyrights on it, or i am wrong? Because if you use an other decoder like frauenhoffer it has a very very good quality, i nerver heard a freeware decoder sounding like that!

Greetings Meischder
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fb2k uses massively modified (fixed bugs / improved safety / modified for 32bit floatingpoint output) mpglib.
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Thank you! Mpglib? I heard about it, but this 32 Bit thing sounds to me very impressive. With 24 Bit on a Audigy (I know your point of view of the Audigy    ) it sounds so great.. ahh!
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Quality-wise, how does Foobar compare to MAD? Is Foobar better than MAD (MAD playing in WinAmp as plug-in.)?


David

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Quality-wise, how does Foobar compare to MAD?

Quality wise I think Foobar2000 is the best sounding audio player!

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Quality-wise, how does Foobar compare to MAD? Is Foobar better than MAD (MAD playing in WinAmp as plug-in.)?


David

They both are standards compilant MP3 decoders (as is Fraunhofer's), so their output should be sounding equally good on the same hardware.
They just both have their own strength and weaknesses:
fb2k's mpglib produces 32bit output -  MAD uses 24bit internally.
mpglib uses floating point computation - MAD uses integer
fb2k's mpglib doesn't have a cli frontend or any other form of file output (yet) - MAD is used by mpg321, madplay and winLAME

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On a separate note, I can't compile the SDK kit's stuff, can someone provide the exact mpglib.dll file used in Foobar2000, if it's not too much trouble? This would be uber-appreciated.

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On a separate note, I can't compile the SDK kit's stuff, can someone provide the exact mpglib.dll file used in Foobar2000, if it's not too much trouble? This would be uber-appreciated.

What exactly are you talking about? The mpglib code is statically linked into foo_input_std.dll.

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I CAN hear a difference between foobar and winamp, but i cannot say if it's better or not.

Some people hear 32bit or 24bit and jump right ahead and say "it's the best sounding player".
Im not sure what difference would it make listening to a few mp3s.. would be interesting to test this on CD Audio..

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Hi,

It would be very interesting to know which tests (if any) would Foobar2000 fail in this comparison:

http://mp3decoders.mp3-tech.org/

Also, I remember that earlier versions of MAD had a bug that clipped the last few samples of mp3 files when there was no ID3v1 tag present in them.

Is Foobar2000 free from this bug? Does Foobar2000 decode all frames correctly even when there's no tag at the end of the file?

Thanks a lot.
Regards.

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On a separate note, I can't compile the SDK kit's stuff, can someone provide the exact mpglib.dll file used in Foobar2000, if it's not too much trouble? This would be uber-appreciated.

What exactly are you talking about? The mpglib code is statically linked into foo_input_std.dll.

I mean, is there a way to get the mpglib.dll either from someone who knows how to get it, or from Peter, from the foo_input_std.dll, I hope I am wording this right, sorry if not.

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It does not use a separate DLL file. I suppose with some skill, one could assemble a project to build just mpglib as a DLL, with an import LIB for other projects to use and link against mpglib.dll, but what would be the point of building it as a dynamic library?

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As to use the dll in other mp3 players as well.

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the mpglib.dll available from the internet wouldn't be the same as the one used in Foobar2000, so that's why i wanted the one Foobar2000 uses. 

Peter, do you think you could hook it up or lead me in the direction of how to do it?

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I CAN hear a difference between foobar and winamp, but i cannot say if it's better or not.

I think it is due to the colouring distortion that fb's hard limiter produces. Disable it, and it should sound exactly as Winamp.

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I CAN hear a difference between foobar and winamp, but i cannot say if it's better or not.

I think it is due to the colouring distortion that fb's hard limiter produces. Disable it, and it should sound exactly as Winamp.

Even with all the gain stuff off, although you might not hear a difference, but they do use two unique mp3 decoders. (they being w-amp and Foobar2000). that's why i've been asking if it's possible to get my hands on that version of mpglib