HydrogenAudio

Lossless Audio Compression => WavPack => Topic started by: Hyperion on 2005-10-13 00:35:02

Title: WavPack V.4.2 bundle 2005-10-04
Post by: Hyperion on 2005-10-13 00:35:02
http://www.rarewares.org/files/lossless/wavpack-4.2.zip (http://www.rarewares.org/files/lossless/wavpack-4.2.zip)
Title: WavPack V.4.2 bundle 2005-10-04
Post by: rjamorim on 2005-10-13 00:45:11
I didn't properly announce it at the home page because, according to Peter's and other people's tests, the speed gain is pretty small - just a few percent compared to David's MSVC6 compiles.
Title: WavPack V.4.2 bundle 2005-10-04
Post by: smz on 2005-10-13 00:46:30
Quote
http://www.rarewares.org/files/lossless/wavpack-4.2.zip (http://www.rarewares.org/files/lossless/wavpack-4.2.zip)
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=333867"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


hmmmm... Is this 4.22? No changelog.txt, no Cooledit/Audition filter,  no WinAmp plugin...

Where is the old "WavPack V.4.2 bundle ICL8.1 compile by Logger 2005-04-11" gone? To Really Rare Wares?

Sergio
Title: WavPack V.4.2 bundle 2005-10-04
Post by: rjamorim on 2005-10-13 01:03:11
Quote
hmmmm... Is this 4.22? No changelog.txt, no Cooledit/Audition filter,  no WinAmp plugin...

Where is the old "WavPack V.4.2 bundle ICL8.1 compile by Logger 2005-04-11" gone? To Really Rare Wares?[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=333873"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Nooo, RRW is for effete stuff, and WavPack 4 surely isn't effete

I replaced Logger's compile mostly because of an effort at RW of getting rid of as many ICL compiles as possible. ICL is known for generating unstable and buggy object code (I can hear Koepi screaming from the distance), and MSVC 8 is creating much faster code than its earlier incarnations.

Besides, David's code is known for not being really optimizable by optimizing compilers (don't ask...). So it doesn't make a big difference to use ICL or VC8.

As for the plugins... I dont'see much point in a Winamp plugin, as it makes no difference to decode using 0,4% of CPU or 0.3%...

Audition would indeed be interesting. I'll look into it.

Regards;

Roberto.
Title: WavPack V.4.2 bundle 2005-10-04
Post by: smz on 2005-10-13 01:24:42
Roberto,

the problem is that apparently *NO* Audition and *NO* Winamp filter is available at RW right now. ICL compile is gone and MSC doesn't have them...

Cheers!

Sergio
Title: WavPack V.4.2 bundle 2005-10-04
Post by: rjamorim on 2005-10-13 01:30:25
Quote
the problem is that apparently *NO* Audition and *NO* Winamp filter is available at RW right now. ICL compile is gone and MSC doesn't have them...[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=333886"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Well... you can always get those at wavpack.com

But I'm compiling VC8 versions of these right now.
Title: WavPack V.4.2 bundle 2005-10-04
Post by: smz on 2005-10-13 01:39:17
Well, actualy *I* already have copies of them, both from Logger ICL and From Wavpack.com compile. I was pointing the problem out just for others who coming into RW could think that no such filters exists for WavPack. That would be a pitty as I think WavPack, all taken into account,  is best lossless compressor around. (My humble opinion, flames off, please)

Glad to see that you are compiling them with VC8 right now, anyway!


But... why getting rid of the old compiles? Running out of disk space? Tidying things up?

Thanks!

Sergio
Title: WavPack V.4.2 bundle 2005-10-04
Post by: rjamorim on 2005-10-13 02:13:17
Quote
Glad to see that you are compiling them with VC8 right now, anyway!


Done uploading!

Quote
But... why getting rid of the old compiles? Running out of disk space? Tidying things up?[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=333892"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


You mean why not offer Logger's and Peter's compiles simultaneously?

For the simple reason that I'm sure my mailbox would get flooded by questions of "which one should I get?"
Title: WavPack V.4.2 bundle 2005-10-04
Post by: smz on 2005-10-13 02:24:36
 THANK-YOU!
Title: WavPack V.4.2 bundle 2005-10-04
Post by: Mr_Rabid_Teddybear on 2005-10-13 03:07:20
Quote
  is best lossless compressor around. (My humble opinion, flames off, please)
[{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=333892")

For "best lossless" it's better to point people [a href="http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison]here[/url] and ask them to make up theire own mind.... WavPack support is still sketchy on *nix and mac, and flac has faster decoding, OptimFrog better compression etc. etc.
As there's no degradation, leave it to the people...
Still. I agree. After M. T. Ashland left his supporters in the wilderland, seemingly never to return, with an unuseable, halfbaked license... and WavPack development picked up I became a true believer myself. Waiting for the *nix crowd to realise what's the best BSD licensed lossless algorithm around ....
Title: WavPack V.4.2 bundle 2005-10-04
Post by: Hyperion on 2005-10-13 05:39:47
Quote
Quote
the problem is that apparently *NO* Audition and *NO* Winamp filter is available at RW right now. ICL compile is gone and MSC doesn't have them...[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=333886"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Well... you can always get those at wavpack.com

But I'm compiling VC8 versions of these right now.
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=333888"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


WinAmp plugin didn't work.
Title: WavPack V.4.2 bundle 2005-10-04
Post by: Drenholm on 2005-10-17 10:22:38
Quote
an effort at RW of getting rid of as many ICL compiles as possible

Will there be non-ICL LAME compiles or does LAME 'need' ICL?