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Support - (fb2k) / Re: foobar2000 (1.4) now always hangs after trying and failing to play something
Last post by Magus -
Ah, I tried updating it to 1.4.1 beta 2, but it didn't make any difference.

Components (I uninstalled everything and reinstalled fooobar2000, and even tried Safe Mode, but it didn't help):

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Core (2018-10-12 13:03:08 UTC)
    foobar2000 core 1.4.1 beta 2
foo_albumlist.dll (2018-10-12 13:02:10 UTC)
    Album List 4.6
foo_cdda.dll (2018-10-12 13:02:12 UTC)
    CD Audio Decoder 3.0
foo_converter.dll (2018-10-12 13:02:18 UTC)
    Converter 1.5.3
foo_dsp_eq.dll (2018-10-12 13:02:08 UTC)
    Equalizer 1.2.1
foo_dsp_std.dll (2018-10-12 13:02:10 UTC)
    Standard DSP Array 1.3.2
foo_fileops.dll (2018-10-12 13:02:18 UTC)
    File Operations 2.3
foo_freedb2.dll (2018-10-12 13:02:10 UTC)
    Online Tagger 0.7
foo_input_std.dll (2018-10-12 13:02:38 UTC)
    FFmpeg Decoders 3.2.4
    Standard Input Array 1.0
foo_rgscan.dll (2018-10-12 13:02:16 UTC)
    ReplayGain Scanner 2.3
foo_ui_std.dll (2018-10-12 13:02:34 UTC)
    Default User Interface 0.9.5
foo_unpack.dll (2018-10-12 13:02:14 UTC)
    ZIP/GZIP/RAR Reader 1.8


Thread dumps from Process Explorer:

• Highest CSwitch Delta by far - I presume this makes it the suspicious thread (foobar2000.exe+0x156008):

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wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x544
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x3a5
wow64cpu.dll!BTCpuSimulate+0x9
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x236
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x120
ntdll.dll!LdrInitShimEngineDynamic+0x308f
ntdll.dll!memset+0x1ec93
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x5b
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe

Additional threads:

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wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x544
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x9e
wow64cpu.dll!BTCpuSimulate+0x9
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x236
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x120
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x179
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x5b
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe

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wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x544
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x9e
wow64cpu.dll!BTCpuSimulate+0x9
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x236
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x120
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x179
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x5b
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe

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wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x544
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x9e
wow64cpu.dll!BTCpuSimulate+0x9
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x236
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x120
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x179
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x5b
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe

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wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x544
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x9e
wow64cpu.dll!BTCpuSimulate+0x9
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x236
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x120
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x179
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x5b
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe

CSWitch Delta value shows up here:

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wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x544
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x9e
wow64cpu.dll!BTCpuSimulate+0x9
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x236
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x120
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x179
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x5b
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe

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wow64win.dll+0x17924
wow64win.dll+0x429a
wow64.dll!Wow64SystemServiceEx+0x153
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0xb
wow64cpu.dll!BTCpuSimulate+0x9
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x236
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x120
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x179
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x5b
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe

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ntdll.dll!ZwWaitForWorkViaWorkerFactory+0x14
wow64.dll!Wow64LogPrint+0xf44
wow64.dll!Wow64SystemServiceEx+0x153
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0xb
wow64cpu.dll!BTCpuSimulate+0x9
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x236
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x120
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x179
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x5b
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe

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ntdll.dll!ZwWaitForWorkViaWorkerFactory+0x14
wow64.dll!Wow64LogPrint+0xf44
wow64.dll!Wow64SystemServiceEx+0x153
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0xb
wow64cpu.dll!BTCpuSimulate+0x9
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x236
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x120
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x179
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x5b
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe

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wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x544
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x421
wow64cpu.dll!BTCpuSimulate+0x9
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x236
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x120
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x179
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x5b
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe

CSwitch Delta value shows up here too:

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wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x544
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x9e
wow64cpu.dll!BTCpuSimulate+0x9
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x236
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x120
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x179
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x5b
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe

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wow64win.dll+0xf3a4
wow64win.dll+0x3ea2
wow64win.dll+0x4149
wow64.dll!Wow64SystemServiceEx+0x153
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0xb
wow64cpu.dll!BTCpuSimulate+0x9
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x236
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x120
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x179
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x5b
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe

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wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x544
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x9e
wow64cpu.dll!BTCpuSimulate+0x9
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x236
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x120
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x179
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x5b
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe

And here:

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wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x544
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x9e
wow64cpu.dll!BTCpuSimulate+0x9
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x236
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x120
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x179
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x5b
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe

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ntdll.dll!ZwWaitForWorkViaWorkerFactory+0x14
wow64.dll!Wow64LogPrint+0xf44
wow64.dll!Wow64SystemServiceEx+0x153
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0xb
wow64cpu.dll!BTCpuSimulate+0x9
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x236
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x120
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x179
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0x5b
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe

Thanks!
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3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Mudlord's (2018-02-09) component shows strange behavior? Or is it just me?
Last post by mus1c1smyl1fe -
Hi everybody, I am new here. I had a strange problem with Mudlord's De-emphasis postprocessor I recently downloaded from https://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_dsp_deemph - or let's say it worked differently from what I expected: As soon as it was installed, every audio file I played that had the pre-emphasis tag was played with de-emphasis applied, even when the plugin was not listed in "Actice DSPs". I wanted more control, so I removed the component, and I was happy to find out that the foo_dsp_deemph.zip (version 0.0.3) available at the beginning of this thread works exactly the way I like: Does not do anything as long as it is not added to Actice DSPs, and starts de-emphasising files during playback as soon as I add it to Active DSPs.

Anyway, given that the components posted here are from 2013, I am wondering if there are any updates? Or aren't there any updates because the tools work just right? (That would make sense.)

Also, did anyone else encounter the problem I had with (the current version of) Mudlord's component?
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Audio Hardware / Re: Help me build my first serious music (stereo) system
Last post by BrilliantBob -
If we listen digital audio files, why we can't use digital devices, not hardware, eg. "Equalizer APO" and "Room Acoustics Software" to dramatically improve the sound quality, limited only by the speakers performances? This powerful equalizer is simple amazing! Better than many analogic expensive hardware devices... and free (donations welcome).

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3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Re: foo_beefweb - modern web interface
Last post by hyperblast -
I understand that the music is played from the device that has foobar installed, but do I have to install Foobar on the tablet as well as I presume the Beefweb plugin is installed on the tablet not the lap top (or is it?).
Actually, it's the opposite. You need to install this component on desktop foobar2000 which actually plays music.
The component has embeded web server that provides clients with web interface for controlling player. On your tablet/phone you only need a web browser.
To access the web UI you need to find out IP address of your laptop, better if it would be a static one,so it does not change over the time,
then just open URL http://X.X.X.X:8880 from your tablet, where X.X.X.X is your IP address, typically something like 192.168.X.X.
See this random guide found over the internet for information how to find out IP address.
Also make sure that firewall if any is not blocking incoming connections for foobar2000.

Sorry if I have missed the point but I am new to this - (not bad at analogue though!)  Grateful for any help - is there a 'for dummies' set-up guide out there?
Unfortunately there is no such guide yet, I'll make some eventually.
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3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Re: foo_beefweb - modern web interface
Last post by Mitch66 -
I have a 'stupid question' too.  Just to set the scenario  - I store my music on a dedicated lap top which is situated in my Hi Fi cabinet, and play it using Foobar.  I would like to be able to control Foobar from a tablet (iOS or /Android) remotely so that I do not have to use the lap top mouse pad to change playlist etc.  I understand that the music is played from the device that has foobar installed, but do I have to install Foobar on the tablet as well as I presume the Beefweb plugin is installed on the tablet not the lap top (or is it?).  Sorry if I have missed the point but I am new to this - (not bad at analogue though!)  Grateful for any help - is there a 'for dummies' set-up guide out there?
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General Audio / Re: Is it all bull**** now?
Last post by Porcus -
My mantra is: I'd rather have a 9000$ CD collection playing on a 1000$ audio system, than a 1000$ CD collection playing on a 9000$ audio system. Because in the end, if my tech budget is eating up my music budget, then what's the point of getting an audio setup in the first place.

Put it this way: What would you rather eat? A great meal cooked on a decent stove or a mediocre meal cooked on an amazing stove?

As someone with enough great meals to kill me (that is, too many CDs to listen to, I bought a few collections over the years, and just last week I filled some holes at £1/piece ...), I spend more on going to concerts. Since I am into amplified music, that means near-mono rumbling, knobs tuned by guys whose "experience" has cost them the second-to-highest octave ..., and I am also well aware that part of what I "hear" I actually see on stage. All them issues with non-blind "testing", I happily use to my advantage.
A side effect is that I have gotten pretty good at "compensating", mentally, for certain types of deficiencies - while I am pickier on others. Rollercoaster bass response? I hear that it is wrong, but it does not bother me much as long as I have the lowest end. Whenever I am caught by the urge to get rid of the room, I put headphones on.
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General Audio / Re: Is it all bull**** now?
Last post by Lionheart.H -
Enjoyment is the name of the game. I'm still happy with my Yamaha RX-460 and Paradigm 3seMk3 speakers, as well as other speakers that I (in my mind) have positioned carefully.  Never felt the need to go beyond the bass, treble, mid-cut, and the other crucial tone control: volume. I can make the system sound good to me at any level I consider reasonable for the situation.  How did we ever get by without room correction?  Yeah, yeah, something like the picture I posted earlier, I know.  Oh, that and bass traps. ;)

I also have an RX-770 and a pair of AR9s (Hi-Res Series), but I don't have an appropriate room to put them in.   I also had a pair of AR S20s that I really liked.

Do I have tin ears?  Dunno, but I was told that I was one of the best critical listeners at the time when I worked for Dolby Labs.

My mantra is: I'd rather have a 9000$ CD collection playing on a 1000$ audio system, than a 1000$ CD collection playing on a 9000$ audio system. Because in the end, if my tech budget is eating up my music budget, then what's the point of getting an audio setup in the first place.

Put it this way: What would you rather eat? A great meal cooked on a decent stove or a mediocre meal cooked on an amazing stove?

We'd all like to have it both ways but that's just not a reality for 99% of people. And a lot of the times when I listen to "Audiophiles" talk, I have the nagging suspicion that that's where they find enjoyment. They enjoy the realization that they're the lucky few who can splurge on this type of stuff.

This fetish for spending insane amounts of money and all the mysticism and snake oil that comes with it seems to be unique to the audio community. You don't find this in other parts of the tech community, take PC gaming for instance. Sure there are expensive graphics cards and processors that people buy, but there it's all about the benchmarks and concrete scientific data. And if companies like intel, AMD or Nvidia use deceptive marketing practices or manipulated benchmarks then there are legions of tech reviews ready to call them out on their BS (which we saw recently with the core i9 release).
There doesn't seem to be this propensity for mysticism and pseudoscience which you find in the audio community. Now you might say that this is because audio is a very subjective topic. But that doesn't explain why people still promote ideas that have literally been scientifically disproven such as SACDs sounding better, 1000$ USB cables sounding better, Nyquist frequency not being adequate, WAV sounding better than FLAC etc. etc.

And this whole "I'll trust my own ears" thing is complete Bull. There's nothing more subjective than one's own hearing after having spend thousands of dollars on a USB cable. Trust me, after having spent that amount of money you're going to hear a difference whether there is one or not.
Besides, you can't turn a subjective personal experience into an objective universal argument.

Anyway, forgive my rambling. I realize some people's eyes might have glazed over :D

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