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Lossless / Other Codecs / New lossless codec comparison, categorizing electronic music
Last post by ktf -
Hi all,

Seeing that the last version of this lossless codec comparison turned 6 years old last week and there having been talk of improvements of Monkey's Audio, I thought it would be a good idea to create a new lossless comparison document. I've been working on rebuilding the list of music I use for this comparison for quite some time now, but I'm stuck on electronic music.

Last time I did this comparison, the list was based on genres. This didn't really show strengths or weaknesses in individual codecs, while many of you know certain music compresses (much) better with certain codecs. To combat this, the new list is based on instrumentation instead of genre. This works fine for orchestral, acoustic and amplified music, but it doesn't work with electronic music. If I used the same classification for electronic music, many entries would say something like voice, synth, samples.

Here is the current list:

All comments on this list are welcome, but I think especially the electronic section needs quite a bit of work. If you have an addition, please explain what it is that makes it different from the rest. If you can think of a better way to classify electronic music, please let me know.

3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Re: Georgia-ReBORN - A Clean foobar2000 Theme
Last post by TT -

I'm really busy atm and we already have 11 themes and most users are using the Reborn theme. It would be really difficult to implement this,
I guess SMP would need to implement callbacks and I don't know if it's even possible.
But I would like to implement the Blend function from WilB's Biography and add it as a new option additional to the flat theme colors,
that would look really nice and refresh the looks of all themes, but it's also hard to implement it...

General Audio / Re: Directory structure for organizing FLAC files.
Last post by Porcus -
and you can achieve that with ALBUMARTISTSORT
If you use foobar2000 to move and rename directories and files (which I do), then you can also use that very same pattern to name a parent folder (which I do not) - so that is off topic to the discussion.

Edit: you would have to tweak it to get 0 through 9 into the same folder, but that is just more code. Still you can have fb2k do the job based on, say, ALBUMARTISTSORT defaulting to %artist%.
Scientific Discussion / Re: xiphmont’s ‘There is no point to distributing music in 24 bit/192 kHz’
Last post by Porcus -
If I'm paying for something, I'll take as many bits as possible please! I don't care about a race to the bottom, or calculating the exact frequency that I can no longer hear - if this music was produced in 192kHz @ 32bit, I'll take that please.

If what I am offered is a file straight from the artist's DAW - the artist likely not even taking note that it is a different kind of .wav than in the stores - then yes please, float or not.
Not because of the audio quality, but because it is closer to the artist's hand. Just like if a painter releases a litho series and there is a video with "and this time I finally learned to do the damn printing by hand without help" - it is not because it makes the printing anything more accurate. Heck, when I realized that WavPack handles all the quirks of 32-bit formats and can restore the original .wav bit by bit, I went back to the .wavs and re-WavPack'd them, using the WavPack exe rather than fb2k.

Especially if the .wav is for free, less incentives of faking it. (I have a hunch that 32-bit .wavs tend to disappear from Soundcloud when fans ask why they cannot play them.)

One example still up on Soundcloud: . One of the label owners' own projects, with Tim Bowness of No-Man. The last file is as weird as 44.1 kHz/32-bit. And then there's a nice little Blue Öyster Cult cover.
General Audio / Re: Directory structure for organizing FLAC files.
Last post by SimBun -
But you're unnecessarily mixing your display requirements with the storage layout, and that often leads to poor choices being made.

If we take your suggestion above, there's really no need to introduce that 0-Z grouping in the storage (unless you have a really flat folder structure and explorer takes forever to render as you suggest). I understand that you may want to see 0-Z when you're browsing via a mobile interface, but doing that anywhere else (filesystem or desktop app) is actually now slower (because you could have just typed the first letter in), and a good mobile interface already does that.
Using the Greek letter υ for various so that it sorts Various Artists to the bottom is again, purely a display issue, and you can achieve that with ALBUMARTISTSORT; by putting it into the filesystem you now need to code foobar to put Various Artists albums under υ (if you're using it for ripping/tagging) whilst also remembering to do that when browsing at a filesystem level.

Another common abuse I see is with using Genre at the root; not only are you limiting Genre to a single value per album (which you can achieve equally well by using the tag if you want), but quite often they'll also be limiting an albumartist to a single Genre as they want to group all of an albumartists works together, which is mad.

I appreciate that workflows can dictate structure, for instance Classical music is different enough to other music that it may be easier to separate them out for processing purposes, so I'm not suggesting anything other than xyz is bad, just to design the backend to fulful the backend requirements, not the frontend.