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Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

I built a new PC a few days ago and it is working well except ripping CDs. The rips have a lot of static which makes them virtually useless
Things I have tried
1)Ripping with 3 different programs FREAC and Asunder and Sound Juicer
2) Ripping FLAC and MP3 same album
3) trying different discs
4)Changing out the new Plextor DVD CD Burner with a LG burner I know works
5) Looking to see if there is some internal problem inside the case - the sata cable may have been pinched but I straightened it out
Interestingly if I play the actual disc on VLC there is no problem no static. Also I tried full CDParanoia mode and with that off.
I am not sure where to look now
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$ inxi -Fxxxrz
System:
  Kernel: 5.19.17-051917-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A
    Desktop: Cinnamon 5.4.12 tk: GTK 3.24.33 wm: Mutter vt: 7
    dm: LightDM 1.30.0 Distro: Linux Mint 21 Vanessa base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: B650M AORUS ELITE AX v: -CF
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: B650M AORUS ELITE AX v: x.x
    serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: F3c
    date: 11/14/2022
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M510
    serial: <filter> charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes
    status: Discharging
CPU:
  Info: 6-core model: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X bits: 64 type: MT MCP smt: enabled
    arch: Zen 3 rev: 2 cache: L1: 384 KiB L2: 6 MiB L3: 32 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 400 min/max: 400/5453 boost: enabled cores: 1: 400
    2: 400 3: 400 4: 400 5: 400 6: 400 7: 400 8: 400 9: 400 10: 400 11: 400
    12: 400 bogomips: 112589
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD vendor: Gigabyte driver: amdgpu v: kernel pcie:
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: HDMI-A-1 empty: DP-1,DP-2,DP-3
    bus-ID: 10:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:164e class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.3 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu,ati
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3424x1926 s-dpi: 144 s-size: 606x341mm (23.9x13.4")
    s-diag: 695mm (27.4")
  Monitor-1: HDMI-A-0 mapped: HDMI-A-1 model: BenQ EX2780Q serial: <filter>
    res: 3424x1926 hz: 144 dpi: 146 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.2")
    diag: 685mm (27") modes: max: 2560x1440 min: 720x400
  OpenGL:
    renderer: AMD GFX1036 (LLVM 13.0.1 DRM 3.47 5.19.17-051917-generic)
    v: 4.6 Mesa 22.0.5 direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 16 GT/s
    lanes: 16 bus-ID: 10:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1640 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Family 17h HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel pcie: speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 10:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3
    class-ID: 0403
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.19.17-051917-generic running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
  Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE vendor: Gigabyte driver: r8169 v: kernel
    pcie: speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 0b:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8125
    class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp11s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz driver: iwlwifi
    v: kernel pcie: speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 0c:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2725
    class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlp12s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX210 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
    bus-ID: 1-6:4 chip-ID: 8087:0032 class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 16.37 TiB used: 3.52 TiB (21.5%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 980 PRO 2TB size: 1.82 TiB
    speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 3B2QGXA7
    temp: 30.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 980 PRO 2TB size: 1.82 TiB
    speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 5B2QGXA7
    temp: 30.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WUH721414ALE6L4
    size: 12.73 TiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter>
    rev: W240 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 56.88 GiB used: 22.25 GiB (39.1%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 7.2 MiB (1.4%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
  ID-3: /home size: 56.53 GiB used: 4.1 GiB (7.3%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 3 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
    file: /mnt/Videos/swapfile
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 16.8 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 29.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 2933 apt: 2927 flatpak: 6
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/additional-repositories.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/brave-browser-archive-keyring.gpg arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cappelikan-ppa-jammy.list
    1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/cappelikan/ppa/ubuntu jammy main
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list
    1: deb https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/linuxmint-packages vanessa main upstream import backport
    2: deb http://archive.ubuntu.mirror.rafal.ca/ubuntu jammy main restricted universe multiverse
    3: deb http://archive.ubuntu.mirror.rafal.ca/ubuntu jammy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
    4: deb http://archive.ubuntu.mirror.rafal.ca/ubuntu jammy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
    5: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy-security main restricted universe multiverse
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/phoerious-keepassxc-jammy.list
    1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/phoerious/keepassxc/ubuntu jammy main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/protonvpn-stable.list
    1: deb [arch="all", signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/protonvpn-stable-archive-keyring.gpg] https://repo.protonvpn.com/debian stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/team-xbmc-ppa-jammy.list
    1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu jammy main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/team-xbmc-xbmc-nightly-jammy.list
    1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/xbmc-nightly/ubuntu jammy main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/winehq.gpg] http://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ jammy main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yannubuntu-boot-repair-jammy.list
    1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/yannubuntu/boot-repair/ubuntu jammy main
Info:
  Processes: 354 Uptime: 17m wakeups: 2 Memory: 30.51 GiB
  used: 4.29 GiB (14.1%) Init: systemd v: 249 runlevel: 5 Compilers:
  gcc: 11.3.0 alt: 11 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: gnome-terminal
  inxi: 3.3.13

I think it is somekind of interference in the PC between components but I do not know how to troubleshoot it

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #1 –
Does the static also happen with rips made using a different PC?

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #2 –
What do you mean "static"?  Can you post up some examples?

I also built a PC and put Mint on it, but I've not gone over to ripping in Linux yet, simply because I would miss EAC.
It's your privilege to disagree, but that doesn't make you right and me wrong.

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #3 –
Quote from: FarFromTheMaddingCrowd on
The rips have a lot of static which makes them virtually useless
But not all static? Had there been only static, I would have suggested "endianness?"
(And: test by rip to WAVE and rip to AIFF ... that is likely not the worst debugging suggestion anyway, what changes?)

(@fooball: "static" is slang for white noise)


Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #4 –
Quote from: Porcus on
Quote from: FarFromTheMaddingCrowd on
The rips have a lot of static which makes them virtually useless
But not all static? Had there been only static, I would have suggested "endianness?"
(And: test by rip to WAVE and rip to AIFF ... that is likely not the worst debugging suggestion anyway, what changes?)

(@fooball: "static" is slang for white noise)



I ripped to WAV  but it still has static. Not seeing a AIFF encoder on the music rippers I have. I am going to go over the wiring connections  in the PC a bit more carefully and see iff anything is wrong there

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #5 –
fre:ac v1.1.5 added support for AccurateRip; I don't know how it presents it to the user but I assume your rips weren't accurate?
If you perform two rips to FLAC do the tracks have different MD5's? This may also show up in the log as different CRC's.

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #6 –
I don't think it's the issue, but EAC has an "endian" setting:
Main Menu > EAC > Drive Options... > Drive > "Big Endian" byte order

OP, have you tried swapping out the DVD-ROM SATA cable?  Stranger things have happened.

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #7 –
Quote from: Apesbrain on
I don't think it's the issue, but EAC has an "endian" setting:
Main Menu > EAC > Drive Options... > Drive > "Big Endian" byte order

OP, have you tried swapping out the DVD-ROM SATA cable?  Stranger things have happened.
Brand new cable but I will try that

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #8 –
No go with the new cable. I might try a newer kernel but at this point I am grasping at straws

would the power cable be a factor. It is a brand new Seasonic power supply with new cables?

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #9 –
I bet you tried another of the SATA connections? Also, you have not set it for RAID or anything?
How does it work reading *files* from a DVD/CDROM?
Next thing I would have tried is one of my pesky SATA-to-USB bridges, just to see if that works.

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #10 –
This discussion might provide a hint:
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=228284

I thought it strange that your DVD-ROM device does not appear in your inxi dump and this guy's issue also had that symptom.  He found a workaround for ripping, but the thread dies out before a real solution.

To me, that would be the first thing to confirm: is your DVD-ROM drive actually installed in your system?  Hopefully, someone with more knowledge of Mint/Ubuntu will comment.

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #11 –
Quote from: Apesbrain on
This discussion might provide a hint:
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=228284

I thought it strange that your DVD-ROM device does not appear in your inxi dump and this guy's issue also had that symptom.  He found a workaround for ripping, but the thread dies out before a real solution.

To me, that would be the first thing to confirm: is your DVD-ROM drive actually installed in your system?  Hopefully, someone with more knowledge of Mint/Ubuntu will comment.

Thanks for the link. Yes I can see it isn't listed under inxi command but it is listed in System profile under Storage devices. I will take a look at the thread. I tried updating the kernel which of course didn't work. I tried changing to a different  sata port on the motherboard. I can't figure this out. I will try one more time putting the DVD/CD burner that was in my last working system

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #12 –
Quote from: Porcus on
I bet you tried another of the SATA connections? Also, you have not set it for RAID or anything?
How does it work reading *files* from a DVD/CDROM?
Next thing I would have tried is one of my pesky SATA-to-USB bridges, just to see if that works.

Yes it will play files from the optical disc fine and I did try another sata port

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #13 –
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inxi -Fxzd
System:
  Kernel: 5.19.17-051917-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A
    Desktop: Cinnamon 5.4.12 Distro: Linux Mint 21 Vanessa
    base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: B650M AORUS ELITE AX v: -CF
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: B650M AORUS ELITE AX v: x.x
    serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: F3c
    date: 11/14/2022
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M510
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) status: Discharging
CPU:
  Info: 6-core model: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 3
    rev: 2 cache: L1: 384 KiB L2: 6 MiB L3: 32 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 400 min/max: 400/5453 boost: enabled cores: 1: 400
    2: 400 3: 400 4: 400 5: 400 6: 400 7: 400 8: 400 9: 400 10: 400 11: 400
    12: 400 bogomips: 112588
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD vendor: Gigabyte driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus-ID: 10:00.0
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.3 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu,ati
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa gpu: amdgpu resolution: 3424x1926~144Hz
  OpenGL:
    renderer: AMD GFX1036 (LLVM 13.0.1 DRM 3.47 5.19.17-051917-generic)
    v: 4.6 Mesa 22.0.5 direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 10:00.1
  Device-2: AMD Family 17h HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel bus-ID: 10:00.6
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.19.17-051917-generic running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
  Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE vendor: Gigabyte driver: r8169 v: kernel
    port: f000 bus-ID: 0b:00.0
  IF: enp11s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz driver: iwlwifi
    v: kernel bus-ID: 0c:00.0
  IF: wlp12s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX210 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
    bus-ID: 1-6:4
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 16.37 TiB used: 3.5 TiB (21.4%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 980 PRO 2TB size: 1.82 TiB
    temp: 30.9 C
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 980 PRO 2TB size: 1.82 TiB
    temp: 30.9 C
  ID-3: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WUH721414ALE6L4
    size: 12.73 TiB
  Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: PLEXTOR model: PX-891SAF rev: 1.JN
    dev-links: cdrom
  Features: speed: 48 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes
    rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r state: running
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 56.88 GiB used: 23.36 GiB (41.1%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 7.2 MiB (1.4%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
  ID-3: /home size: 56.53 GiB used: 4.32 GiB (7.6%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 3 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
    file: /mnt/Videos/swapfile
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 16.8 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 29.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
  Processes: 352 Uptime: 17m Memory: 30.51 GiB used: 4.02 GiB (13.2%)
  Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 11.3.0 Packages: 2944 Shell: Bash
  v: 5.1.16 inxi: 3.3.13

slightly different command but shows the plextor drive is there

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #14 –
Quote from: FarFromTheMaddingCrowd on
Quote from: Apesbrain on
This discussion might provide a hint:
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=228284

Solution seemed to be to use K3B which I didn't think of as I use that for video mainly. Unfortunately it didn't work. I am giving in for now will try a few things later. Thanks for all the help everyone has offfered!

I thought it strange that your DVD-ROM device does not appear in your inxi dump and this guy's issue also had that symptom.  He found a workaround for ripping, but the thread dies out before a real solution.

To me, that would be the first thing to confirm: is your DVD-ROM drive actually installed in your system?  Hopefully, someone with more knowledge of Mint/Ubuntu will comment.

Thanks for the link. Yes I can see it isn't listed under inxi command but it is listed in System profile under Storage devices. I will take a look at the thread. I tried updating the kernel which of course didn't work. I tried changing to a different  sata port on the motherboard. I can't figure this out. I will try one more time putting the DVD/CD burner that was in my last working system

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #15 –
Last effort for tonight. I tried with a different power connector in a different port on the power supply no luck. I think I have eliminated just about every possibility except there are USB slots directly above the CD burner 2 of which are not connected to the header because I don't have enough USB 3.1 headers(just one). I am waiting for a connector from NewEgg (ordered a week ago)that will allow me to connect those USB slots to a USB 2.0 header. Other possibility is I have to shell out a little for a new burner. Just seems odd that I tried the burner form the old PC which worked fine and it had the same issues as the new one

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #16 –
The problem I have with following this is that "static" AKA "white noise" (if it really is that, the OP has not confirmed) can only really be introduced in the analogue domain.  Whatever signal problems there might be in the digital domain are going to result in detectable data corruption and failed operations.

Presuming the above is true, then any white noise should be the same for any audio source being fed through the same signal path – and the OP says other sources behave properly.

Therefore, something in the above must be incorrect... and I propose what's incorrect is the description of "static" as white noise.  Some samples should reveal a great deal.
It's your privilege to disagree, but that doesn't make you right and me wrong.

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #17 –
Quote from: fooball on
The problem I have with following this is that "static" AKA "white noise" (if it really is that, the OP has not confirmed) can only really be introduced in the analogue domain.  Whatever signal problems there might be in the digital domain are going to result in detectable data corruption and failed operations.



Presuming the above is true, then any white noise should be the same for any audio source being fed through the same signal path – and the OP says other sources behave properly.

Therefore, something in the above must be incorrect... and I propose what's incorrect is the description of "static" as white noise.  Some samples should reveal a great deal.
I thought of posting a brief segment of a song to show what I mean but I don't feel comfortable doing that with copyrighted music. It is static or white noise that overlays the actual music. It is present both over my monitor speakers and also  my stereo speakers connected to my LMS Touch Squeezebox(Energy Audio). An example of the sound is in the first few seconds of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at4qhZmx53A

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #18 –
Well, in my opinion there's nothing wrong with your hardware and you're chasing shadows.  If all your hardware pathways work with one set of software (which you said they do) and not with another then there's something wrong with the software (or how it's configured) and not the hardware.

MAYBE an unterminated analogue input is being mixed into the output or the rip.  You might test for that by applying a signal to the analogue inputs and see if it breaks through.  I don't see any likelihood that digitally-generated noise is being mixed in unless it's deliberate.  A big/little-endian mix-up would sound gross.

But this is Linux.  Mint is pretty good generally, but (especially when it comes to hardware) I find some software works and some doesn't.  The pragmatic approach is to test alternatives and settle on what works.  I think you're more likely to get help if you post on the Mint forum.
It's your privilege to disagree, but that doesn't make you right and me wrong.

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #21 –
Thanks
I have tried with cdparanoia off and on from the beginning. I am downloading Majaro and will try ripping a cd  with that

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #22 –
Just out of curiosity, do you hear the same statics when you play the CDs on the computer or only when you rip them?

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #23 –
Quote from: tehabe on
Just out of curiosity, do you hear the same statics when you play the CDs on the computer or only when you rip them?
Quote from: FarFromTheMaddingCrowd on
Interestingly if I play the actual disc on VLC there is no problem no static.
It's your privilege to disagree, but that doesn't make you right and me wrong.

Re: Static on newly Ripped Flacs and MP3s

Reply #24 –
The Uploads section of this site says: " Acceptable content includes freely and legally distributable data of the following types: audio programs, audio samples (under 30 second clips), ..."

I'd say that if you included a 15-second clip of your problematic output, that would be considered fair use. I'd love to listen to a sample of your problem.