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Lossless Audio Compression => WavPack => Topic started by: JohnV on 2002-04-15 22:32:49

Title: Wavpack 3.94 released.
Post by: JohnV on 2002-04-15 22:32:49
http://www.wavpack.com/ (http://www.wavpack.com/)
WavPack 3.94 Features:
Title: Wavpack 3.94 released.
Post by: xmixahlx on 2002-04-15 22:35:13
the hybrid mode + correction file isn't exactly new...

but impressive

later
mike
Title: Wavpack 3.94 released.
Post by: Dezibel on 2002-04-16 00:57:19
... damn! has anyone experiences made with this hybrid mode? does it realy work 100 percent correctly?

Dezibel
Title: Wavpack 3.94 released.
Post by: rjamorim on 2002-04-16 01:04:44
I encoded one test file with it, and worked well (Including the restoration later)

But I didn't do any kind of listening test.
Title: Wavpack 3.94 released.
Post by: mithrandir on 2002-04-16 01:43:05
The new hybrid mode sounds very exciting but it's a shame that the lossy file in that mode requires about 256kbps for 44.1KHz input files. You can't create a 128kbps lossy + correction file.
Title: Wavpack 3.94 released.
Post by: Dezibel on 2002-04-16 02:07:20
... hm. i made an fast test:

original wav: dream theater - overture 1928 [37.536Mb]

encodet with the parameter -b128 -c gave two files:

"overture.wv" [7.070Mb] and "overture.wvc" [20.708Mb]

winamp shows an average bitrate from 1044kbps :eek: while playing. i don't abx it but in winamp it sounds weird at high frequencies.

restored to wave [the *.wvc must in the same folder as the *.wv file] i can't hear an difference to the original. looks like it works correct.

hm... weird thing! 

Dezibel
Title: Wavpack 3.94 released.
Post by: bryant on 2002-04-16 17:22:47
Dezibel:

What you saw actually makes some sense. The winamp plugin now uses the .wvc file by default, so it will show the average bitrate for the lossless playback which would be over 1000 for your file. If you delete or move the .wvc file (or turn off the option in the configuration) then the displayed bitrate will drop and you will get lossy playback.

Also, as mithrandir correctly points out, the hybrid mode bottoms out at about 256 kbps, so when you specify 128 it is basically pegged at the minimum. I recommend at least 320 kbps for high-quality. I realize that this is pretty high, but I have found that it gives UAQUAL ODG scores averaging around –0.25 over a wide range of music, which I think is better than most codecs at 128 kbps.

BTW, WavPack includes a 32-bit error checking code, so if it reports lossless restoration you can be pretty sure that it's true.

Thanks for checking it out, guys!