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Support - (fb2k) / Re: Foobar2000 v2.* playback sound quality lower than v1.X
Last post by Porcus -
It isn't hard to set up two different fb2k versions, mask the identity, and then have a person play from whatever fb2k the coin says. Guess which one. Write it down.
Arguably you should set up three, and always play from "number zero" in between, so that test subject cannot guess from the time it takes to start playback whether it was the same as the previous.
Rinse and repeat a pre-determined number of times. Count up the correct answers. Report here.

That could have been done a long time ago.

And then one could maybe have taken it serious. But not anymore. Someone who has already made up their mind to this degree, why shouldn't they bother to do the test they have so much aversion against, when they can just make up numbers that support their desired conclusion and post those instead?
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Support - (fb2k) / Re: Foobar2000 v2.* playback sound quality lower than v1.X
Last post by ojdo -
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[...] lack of tangible proof does not mean that hypothesis is false :)
Agreed, but it does not free you from having to bring tangible evidence for your claim as per ToS and a basic "burden of proof" gate. We are basically in a dragon in my garage situation. Without anything to go by, all we can do is ignore the claim. Or never stop looking for all those dragons out there.
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Support - (fb2k) / Re: Foobar2000 v2.* playback sound quality lower than v1.X
Last post by Globares -
I do understand the need to reproduce problem to fix it. Please note that a positive ABX test result from my side will not solve this problem.  Originally I hoped that the difference would be noticeable for developers.
The issue talking about the differences between 2 f2k versions ABX test is possible only with recordings, and the recordings need to be good enough to capture the differences. The recordings I compared were provided by misio, who has a decent sound card, but there's no information if even misio was able to hear the differences in the recordings.  My statement is based on my system.  I'll be happy to provide recordings if I find a way to get good enough recording setup. And the science and logic says, that lack of tangible proof does not mean that hypothesis is false :)
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foobar2000 mobile / Cue Sheet is not working when file is played from FTP server
Last post by Trimonium -
Hi,

I'm using cue sheets with my audio files. They'll work without any problems when I'm playing files from the internal memory or from a SD card.

But the same audio files and cue sheets are not working when I'll ty to play them from my NAS.

I can access the NAS without any problems and can also play the audio file without the cue sheet. I also see the cue sheet and can click on it, but nothing happens when I'll try to start playing my audio file using the cue sheet.

There is no error message and also nothing will be written into the Console log.

So is someone else here that ever tried to play audio files using a cue sheet via FTP or can someone maybe try to do this?

It's also working fine, when I'm playing the same files from FTP in the Foobar PC version and also works when I'm playing it with my Dune HD Mediaplayer.

Anyone an idea why this is not working in the mobile version of Foobar?

Thanks and Regards

Tri
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3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Re: foo_vis_spectrum_analyzer
Last post by TF3RDL -
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Please provide more details about what you think is wrong.
There are multiple Gaussian-like curves (asides the sidelobes from window function) that is not present in my own spectrum analyzer project on CodePen, even on the same window function and FFT settings (4096 samples Hann-windowed FFT) on a 50Hz test tone (though not tested on my own fb2k with foo_vis_spectrum_analyzer as it is obvious on the screenshots by someone else even if the audio source is not a test tone)

Maybe you can do rigorous testing to make sure that the results between these two are the same so long as the settings between your component (a C++ port of my own project, algorithm-wise) and my own project (not just this, but also another one) are the same as eachother (if applicable)?
Ah, I forgot to attach the 50Hz tone file and BTW, this should look like this within the default configuration (aside the color scheme resembling fb2k built-in "Spectrum" visualization and 20Hz-20kHz range):
Don't we forget about the "incorrect" looking sinc/Lanczos FFT interpolation for lower frequencies part in the default FFT mode? This is the most obvious discrepancy between my own CodePen project " Frequency bands spectrum analyzer using either FFT or CQT" and your fb2k visualization component

BTW, should we switch the FFT library to perhaps a modified version of PFFFT that supports double-precision floats and can utilize AVX2 if the PC's CPU support these instruction sets?
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Support - (fb2k) / Re: Foobar2000 v2.* playback sound quality lower than v1.X
Last post by mudlord -
Think of it this way, from a developer perspective:

1) Imagine someone saying there is a problem with sound quality with your app vs older versions.
2) You are the only person saying so.
3) You haven't done any tests to confirm your claims, but its entirely your say so.
4) Dev tries to find such differences in sound quality
5) It ends up being a wild goose chase since there is no scientific proof to the claims in the first place, so it cannot be proven or  reproduced on their end.

Doing such work without possible reproducible data results in a complete waste of time that could be spent elsewhere. I had this personally happen numerous times, no doubt the FB2K dev has too and many other devs. Like the time I experienced some problems with HLS streaming some radio stations only to find the HLS server software itself is completely b0rked and not a issue on the player end, which involved a ton of work to debug and mitigate.
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3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Re: foo_skip: skip tracks that match a specified search query
Last post by Case -
The context menu feels like a wrong place for that action. Context menu is supposed to show valid actions that you can perform to any number of selected tracks regardless of current playback state. Bookmarking playback position is only related to the active playing track. The on/off toggle isn't in the context menu either.