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Lossless / Other Codecs / Re: New lossless codec comparison, categorizing electronic music
Last post by Porcus -
I thought it would be a good idea to create a new lossless comparison document.
Big "Yay!", but someone needs to kick the FLAC executives into motion on getting your improvements into the official release.
(On the other hand, a test conducted by a FLAC contributor but biased against FLAC from taking on board every other codec's updates but the incoming FLAC improvements ... at least none of the competition should whine then.)

I am stuck in the industrial corner of the electronic genres (uh, Kraftwerk and Skinny Puppy and Laibach and half the Cold Meat Industry catalog ... actually a lot of darkwave need not be "electronic" as such, some use real fiddles and horns atop the synths) and certain eras (Tangerine Dream, more Kraftwerk) so this will not be more than "consider this" - where at least I try not to push my faves all the time:
* Laibach: LaiBachKunstderFuge. Yep, Bach. But deliberately done on computers, "since the work is very much based on mathematic algorithms".  Laibach has darker releases, and more upbeat too, but this is a bit special in that it is (allegedly) overwhelmingly digitally generated. FLACs to 728, not that dense music. And it saves my selection from being, uh, so last century.
* Skinny Puppy. Likely, VIVIsectVI is the album more considered a landmark in the genre of then-considered-ugly industry. Drum machine and lots of samples - the latter is kinda both a pro and a contra if one is interested in synthetic-created waveforms. Sounds like this: FLACs to 930, that is quite dense.
* The Cold Meat Industry label was a subgenre by itself in the nineties, but it might just be my pet subgenre of synth music. They used extensively the pesky CD pre-emphasis thing - which could be an idea in itself to include in the corpus, but not too much of it.  Maybe In Slaughter Natives for the dark ambient genre. Maybe you could pick their label sampler. I can get you a copy of either.
* Klaus Schulze: maybe pick Dig It for being (as the title puns at) his first fully digital recording. (Edit: bad argument - digital recording isn't the same as electronic music. But it fits a corner of the genre too, as well as Schulze starting to use more digital synths.)
* Biosphere: Substrata (although a track from the predecessor might be more familiar for its appearance in Levi's commercials). In the cold minimalist ambient direction it is a classic. See the couple of links at
... those links also lead to proposals of Brian Eno and Aphex Twin. Hard to argue against those, but:
* But while Ambient vol. 1 - Music for Airports is an obvious choice if you want Brian Eno to be represented, and/or if you want ambient to be represented - but it has so much acoustic instrument content that ...?
* Maybe Aphex Twin's Selected Ambient Works 85-92 over the successor? Only because I have proposed beat-less ambient already
* Something by Art of Noise? Early Fairlight CMI-created (digital domain!) music, that's why.
* Björk: Vespertine? Hard to argue against her relevance (and ... there wasn't enough post-2k and not enough female vox on my list ... ?) - but here I am maybe taking an artist I like, who turned to electronic music ...

Though when it comes to Biosphere, part of me wants Biosphere/Deathprod: "Nordheim Transformed", doing the music of Arne Nordheim. Killing more birds with one stone.

Then, not what you asked about, but ...

You list a CD table, but then to make it more relevant (at the cost of time & effort, and for the second item: at the risk of lending credibility to the marketing of useless end-user formats):
* Multi-channel?
* High resolution?
There is more available by now. (Also there is much more available for free.)

General Audio / Getting and running fdkaac and opusenc encoders for dbpoweramp and foobar.
Last post by rupeshforu3 -
Hi I am Rupesh from India and I have some mp3 files and I want to convert to m4a files using fdkaac encoder latest version available. Similarly I want want to convert these mp3 files to opus using opusenc encoder latest version available.

There are a number of benifits of using latest version of encoder available like the output audio quality will be good etc., rather than using old one.

Generally i am using fdkaac or opusenc in other software like dbpoweramp and foobar. Using them directly is not good as the above software provide nice guis.

These software providers supply their own encoders for fdkaac and opusenc and they are too old.

I want to use the latest version of fdkaac and opusenc encoders instead. Source code of these encoders are available from git etc.,.

I have downloaded media auto build suite and ran it. It has downloaded the source code and compiled and created .exe files for fdkaac and opusenc.

I have copied these files to encoder directory present in the dbpoweramp folder.

I tried to convert these mp3 files to m4a and opus using old fdkaac and opusenc encoders provided by dbpoweramp. After that I have converted these mp3 files to m4a and opus using new fdkaac and opusenc compiled by msys2 or mingw64.

The files converted using old fdkaac and opusenc are of small in size than the ones converted using newly compiled fdkaac and opusenc at same bitrate.

I think that msys2 compiler is inferior than others. Which is the best way to compile source code of fdkaac and opusenc in optimal way like gcc or visual studio etc.,.

Can you suggest where to get or how to compile fdkaac and opusenc encoders .exe files which converts mp3 files to best quality output audio files.

Lossless / Other Codecs / New lossless codec comparison, categorizing electronic music
Last post by ktf -
Hi all,

Seeing that the last version of this lossless codec comparison turned 6 years old last week and there having been talk of improvements of Monkey's Audio, I thought it would be a good idea to create a new lossless comparison document. I've been working on rebuilding the list of music I use for this comparison for quite some time now, but I'm stuck on electronic music.

Last time I did this comparison, the list was based on genres. This didn't really show strengths or weaknesses in individual codecs, while many of you know certain music compresses (much) better with certain codecs. To combat this, the new list is based on instrumentation instead of genre. This works fine for orchestral, acoustic and amplified music, but it doesn't work with electronic music. If I used the same classification for electronic music, many entries would say something like voice, synth, samples.

Here is the current list:

All comments on this list are welcome, but I think especially the electronic section needs quite a bit of work. If you have an addition, please explain what it is that makes it different from the rest. If you can think of a better way to classify electronic music, please let me know.

3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Re: Georgia-ReBORN - A Clean foobar2000 Theme
Last post by TT -

I'm really busy atm and we already have 11 themes and most users are using the Reborn theme. It would be really difficult to implement this,
I guess SMP would need to implement callbacks and I don't know if it's even possible.
But I would like to implement the Blend function from WilB's Biography and add it as a new option additional to the flat theme colors,
that would look really nice and refresh the looks of all themes, but it's also hard to implement it...

General Audio / Re: Directory structure for organizing FLAC files.
Last post by Porcus -
and you can achieve that with ALBUMARTISTSORT
If you use foobar2000 to move and rename directories and files (which I do), then you can also use that very same pattern to name a parent folder (which I do not) - so that is off topic to the discussion.

Edit: you would have to tweak it to get 0 through 9 into the same folder, but that is just more code. Still you can have fb2k do the job based on, say, ALBUMARTISTSORT defaulting to %artist%.