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Reply #75 –
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I also just found that disabling "allow pages to use own fonts" did the trick. So it is the new design. No good solution for daily use though.

Try now? It was originally forcing -webkit-font-smoothing to antialiased instead of auto or none or whatever.

Also, I set timestamps to relative everywhere, hover over them for a full timestamp tool tip.

No real change.

Edit: Don't worry about me and the fonts. I found a FF addon "Stylish" that sets a custom font for URLs. Works for me.
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Reply #76 –
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I found a FF addon "Stylish" that sets a custom font for URLs.


I do that a lot. Most of my read-heavy sites have a serif font that I like, extra line-height and maybe some color tweaks.

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No real change.


That's really odd. While I did find that the CSS smoothing setting is a no-op in windows/firefox, I wonder if FFX force-applies greyscale antialias to "custom" fonts? There are a slew of about:config settings on font smoothing and it's not clear what any one does.

Usually font smoothing for custom fonts looks better, since they're so poorly hinted; unlike Georgia and Verdana which are superbly hinted and look great without antialias.

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Reply #77 –
Exactly, Verdana looks good to me. I use it the way it is suggested here in case others want to play with it https://support.mozilla.org/questions/1020054
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Reply #78 –
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1. The PHPSESSID string should be stripped from the URLs of the threads linked on the home page.

That is added automatically, for anonymous user tracking. Unless you're logged in, in which case, maybe that stupid EU cookie warning thing I enabled does some bad things to prevent use of cookies.

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2. Redirects will be needed to deal with examples like these:

/forums/index.php?showforum=2 -> /index.php/board,2.0.html
/forums/index.php?showtopic=110060 -> /index.php/topic,110060.0.html
/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=110060&view=findpost&p=906764 -> /index.php/topic,110060.msg906764.html#msg906764
/forums/index.php?showuser=4082 -> /index.php?action=profile;u=4082

Yes, I can add permanent redirects for various old scripts' paths and queries. And incidentally, #new always works for whichever message is specified using the msg parameter.

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3. Consider replacing Gravatar URLs with local URLs that are served via a caching proxy. So instead of //www.gravatar.com/avatar/a9c1bdfdffd0fe84201345da357d0da5;s=65&r=g you would link to, say, /gravatar/a9c1bdfdffd0fe84201345da357d0da5;s=65&r=g ... then your server, configured appropriately, would serve the images from its own cache, only contacting Gravatar to fetch new images when the cache expires. This would alleviate privacy concerns and would boost performance for users. An example config for nginx: https://serverfault.com/questions/744969/ng...xpires-too-soon (I think as per the answer there, you have to add "Expires" to the "proxy_ignore_headers Cache-Control" line). There is probably also a way to fall back on a default image URL if the proxy returns an error. Along those same lines, onerror="this.style.display='none'" might be a good idea to add to the avatar img element. That way, if the image can't be loaded, the user won't see a broken image icon. Or if you wanted to substitute a generic image, onerror="this.src='/path/to/the/generic_avatar.png'".

Paranoid much? I would have to step into the gravatar portion of the script to change where it links, assuming there isn't already a mod for this. I suppose you block Gravatar now, so you'll also be missing my current avatar on this site, which I manually set to a Gravatar link.

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Reply #79 –
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Commercial depends entirely upon me finding a commercial forum that can import the entire backlog, and won't break my bank. Many commercial forums involve a yearly license fee to maintain support and updates.

The nearest suggested choice from the same source that suggested ElkArte was XenForo, which runs at $40 per year to renew licensing, which is entirely reasonable. I think the up front cost is a bit more, though.

Oh, and the oldest IP.Board that XenForo can import from is 3.x, so I'd be looking to use Garf's lifetime (up to 3.x) license to acquire 3.x and import the 2.x history into it first. I'm sure that'd be fun.


Just in case it is at all useful, I've just completed an upgrade at work from 3.4.8 to 4.1.6 Invision.  It wasn't without issue, but it was certainly much smoother than it could have been.  Invision has announced the end of the 3.4.x support for April 1 next year.

We're using all of their applications (minus Nexus and Chat) and that runs $70 twice a year.

PM me if I can answer any questions?

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Reply #80 –
I won't be touching Invision 4.x with a galaxy sized pole, I've heard it's an utter trainwreck, and even if we did go that route, we'd be looking at buying a whole new license, and renewing it every year.

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Reply #81 –
Quote from: kode54 on
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1. The PHPSESSID string should be stripped from the URLs of the threads linked on the home page.

That is added automatically, for anonymous user tracking.

Ah, OK, makes sense.

Quote from: kode54 on
Paranoid much? I would have to step into the gravatar portion of the script to change where it links, assuming there isn't already a mod for this. I suppose you block Gravatar now, so you'll also be missing my current avatar on this site, which I manually set to a Gravatar link.

Yes, your user image (broken image icon, for me) is what got me thinking about how to avoid that, regardless of where they're hosted.

Yes, paranoid, I suppose, but also just cynical and irritated by the insistent tracking of everything everyone does online, and the behind-the-scenes aggregation and passing around of all that info among companies desperately clawing for cash.

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Reply #82 –
What was missing from this forum is embedding of video links for posts.

If you agree the setting for elkarte it is at "Enable auto-embedding of video links" in admin > forum  > Posts and Topics >.Post Setting

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Reply #83 –
I generally dislike change, but I like this. It seems to work well. I just wanted to post to thank you for all your hard work and time spent kode54. I hope this works out.

Cheers,
David.

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Reply #84 –
Yeah, whatever you did to the colours kode54 it is perfect! Nice on the eyes and has the correct hydrogen feeling
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Reply #85 –
Am I the only one who feels it's a waste of precious screen real estate to have a long column with Forum Staff on the right? I'd prefer to give the actual content, the Recent Topics that people are coming to HA for, more space. HA's content is top notch so I'd say give it all the space it can get.
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Reply #86 –
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Am I the only one who feels it's a waste of precious screen real estate to have a long column with Forum Staff on the right? I'd prefer to give the actual content, the Recent Topics that people are coming to HA for, more space. HA's content is top notch so I'd say give it all the space it can get.


Thing is, expanding the Recent Topics panel doesn't really extend any of the text since the titles are limited to a certain length. Right pane widget provides some nice balance imo.

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Reply #87 –
Quote from: Coreda on
Quote from: Maurits on
Am I the only one who feels it's a waste of precious screen real estate to have a long column with Forum Staff on the right? I'd prefer to give the actual content, the Recent Topics that people are coming to HA for, more space. HA's content is top notch so I'd say give it all the space it can get.


Thing is, expanding the Recent Topics panel doesn't really extend any of the text since the titles are limited to a certain length. Right pane widget provides some nice balance imo.

Yes, you can see that when you collapse it. I guess the point is that not having a column there still adds something, it adds focus on the Recent Topics. It also removes some distraction. The page is already fairly 'crowded' if you ask me.
Every night with my star friends / We eat caviar and drink champagne
Sniffing in the VIP area / We talk about Frank Sinatra
Do you know Frank Sinatra? / He's dead

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Reply #88 –
You can hide the two columns, but they are restored at every page refresh: maybe there's a simple way to save their state (visibile/hidden) somehow?

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Reply #89 –
Quote from: Maurits on
Am I the only one who feels it's a waste of precious screen real estate to have a long column with Forum Staff on the right? I'd prefer to give the actual content, the Recent Topics that people are coming to HA for, more space. HA's content is top notch so I'd say give it all the space it can get.


+1, and same problem in this page as well
https://argonaural.io/index.php?action=forum

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Is it possible to make the right column (latest topics) in 3 lines (like the old version) or even better, multiline with word wrap? The left column (sub-forum descriptions) like "Uploads" even has many lines and makes the right column looks blank.

old vs new:

Need admin help regarding TOS ...
Need admin help regar...

WavPack 4.75.2 is available
WavPack 4.75.2 is ava...

EDIT: Maybe multiline is a bad idea since malicious users can use a very long title, but 3 lines (title, poster, time) like the old version should be OK?

In case you didn't notice, it also has a tooltip displaying the full topic name.


Since the descriptions in the left column seldom changes, why don't give more space to display the titles of recent posts? Tooltip can only display one title but not all titles.

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Reply #90 –
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Am I the only one who feels it's a waste of precious screen real estate to have a long column with Forum Staff on the right? I'd prefer to give the actual content, the Recent Topics that people are coming to HA for, more space. HA's content is top notch so I'd say give it all the space it can get.
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I can disable this column. Then nobody will know who to report to directly, but at least they can use the Report Post or Topic feature and be sure to reach the staff.

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and same problem in this page as well
https://argonaural.io/index.php?action=forum
Don't forget people with small screens.

Quote from: bennetng on
Since the descriptions in the left column seldom changes, why don't give more space to display the titles of recent posts? Tooltip can only display one title but not all titles.
Yes, but how many characters to display? Or should I eliminate topic name shortening altogether? Again, don't forget people with small screens. Try reducing the width of your browser to fit into 1280 pixels, or 1024 pixels, or even 800 pixels, and see how well it looks with a full topic name in there.

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Exactly, Verdana looks good to me. I use it the way it is suggested here in case others want to play with it https://support.mozilla.org/questions/1020054
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These days I think Windows browsers use DirectWrite for fast, GPU-based font rendering wherever they can, with the special exception that they force GDI rendering for the MS Core Web fonts (Times, Arial, Verdana, etc.) because people go nuts if 10px Arial doesn't display the exact same pixels it did in Win3.1.

So, yeah, anything but MS Core Fonts, you get (fairly decent, in my opinion) anti-aliasing. But I guess I've sort of lost touch with what blurry text looks like on low resolution displays, what with operating on a 5120x2880 panel for over a year now. And even on my secondary 1920x1080 panel, I'm mostly dealing with Apple's text rendering, not Microsoft's crappy solution.

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What was missing from this forum is embedding of video links for posts.

If you agree the setting for elkarte it is at "Enable auto-embedding of video links" in admin > forum  > Posts and Topics >.Post Setting
Does a serious audio discussion forum really need embedded Youtube videos?
 

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Reply #91 –
Quote from: kode54 on
Quote from: bennetng on
and same problem in this page as well
https://argonaural.io/index.php?action=forum

Don't forget people with small screens.

Quote from: bennetng on
Since the descriptions in the left column seldom changes, why don't give more space to display the titles of recent posts? Tooltip can only display one title but not all titles.

Yes, but how many characters to display? Or should I eliminate topic name shortening altogether? Again, don't forget people with small screens. Try reducing the width of your browser to fit into 1280 pixels, or 1024 pixels, or even 800 pixels, and see how well it looks with a full topic name in there.


Actually my home PC's monitor is 1280*1024, I tried a little bit and noticed that the layout changes with screen width and font size. Now the left column supports word wrap but right doesn't, how about allowing title length same as row count of left column?

https://www.hydrogenaud.io/forums/index.php...ost&id=8483

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Reply #92 –
Quote from: kode54 on
Quote from: bennetng on
Quote from: Maurits on
Am I the only one who feels it's a waste of precious screen real estate to have a long column with Forum Staff on the right? I'd prefer to give the actual content, the Recent Topics that people are coming to HA for, more space. HA's content is top notch so I'd say give it all the space it can get.

+1

I can disable this column. Then nobody will know who to report to directly, but at least they can use the Report Post or Topic feature and be sure to reach the staff.

Thanks, it looks a lot better now!
Every night with my star friends / We eat caviar and drink champagne
Sniffing in the VIP area / We talk about Frank Sinatra
Do you know Frank Sinatra? / He's dead

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Reply #93 –
A cookie preference would be nice, but not sure how easy/possible it would be add. At 1440p all I see is extra white space  On smaller monitors I can see the use.

Good to see the new relative dates back

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Reply #94 –
Quote from: kode54 on
Quote from: bennetng on
Quote from: Maurits on
Am I the only one who feels it's a waste of precious screen real estate to have a long column with Forum Staff on the right? I'd prefer to give the actual content, the Recent Topics that people are coming to HA for, more space. HA's content is top notch so I'd say give it all the space it can get.

+1

I can disable this column. Then nobody will know who to report to directly, but at least they can use the Report Post or Topic feature and be sure to reach the staff.

I was happy clicking the button that hid that column, but wished my preference was remembered when I returned to the page.

korth

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Reply #95 –
I agree with korth, disabling it completely isn't the way to go, IMHO. Also, those two arrows point up and down instead of right/left, and both are positioned on the right hand side.
Shouldn't the one that hides the left one be on the left and point left/right when the panel is visible/hidden? Same for the right arrow, with reversed order.

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Reply #96 –
Could the Forum Staff box perhaps move to the bottom of the left column? There is plenty of space there and it wouldn't be in anyone's way.
Every night with my star friends / We eat caviar and drink champagne
Sniffing in the VIP area / We talk about Frank Sinatra
Do you know Frank Sinatra? / He's dead

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Reply #97 –
Quote from: bennetng on
Quote from: kode54 on
Quote from: bennetng on
and same problem in this page as well
https://argonaural.io/index.php?action=forum

Don't forget people with small screens.

Quote from: bennetng on
Since the descriptions in the left column seldom changes, why don't give more space to display the titles of recent posts? Tooltip can only display one title but not all titles.

Yes, but how many characters to display? Or should I eliminate topic name shortening altogether? Again, don't forget people with small screens. Try reducing the width of your browser to fit into 1280 pixels, or 1024 pixels, or even 800 pixels, and see how well it looks with a full topic name in there.


Actually my home PC's monitor is 1280*1024, I tried a little bit and noticed that the layout changes with screen width and font size. Now the left column supports word wrap but right doesn't, how about allowing title length same as row count of left column?

https://www.hydrogenaud.io/forums/index.php...ost&id=8483


I also noticed that the width of right column does not change. When the window is wide enough there will be a lot of wasted space in the left column since some subforum descriptions are pretty short. It would be better to make the width of both columns the same when window width is large enough, for example 1440 pixels, in order to save some space for the right column and make the content of both columns more visually balanced, without too much wasted space in either column.

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Reply #98 –
I'm the one that suggested ElkArte when the subject of alternative forum software came up.

I've also been providing guidance on what's where, based on questions and comments kode54 makes and what I see in this forum.

So... Yeah. As far as the XenForo license, I believe the initial cost is $150.

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Reply #99 –
And IPS Forum 4, which I already said I won't be touching, is $175 up front, then $25 renewal every 6 months.