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Title: EncoderPro
Post by: CRYON on 2005-11-30 08:29:34
Download EndoderPro 3.9 FINAL

DOWNLOAD (http://www.republika.pl/scron/forum/EncoderPro_3_9_FINAL.bin.rar)

Try this software, this is free and GPL'ed program.

Program is developed for more than two years.

HomePage:

htp://scron.republika.pl/download.html (http://scron.republika.pl/download.html)

EDIT: Changed download link to my site!
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: dev0 on 2005-11-30 08:32:04
And what exactly does it?
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: CRYON on 2005-11-30 08:38:32
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And what exactly does it?
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This tool is designed to convert (encode) .WAV files to MP3 and MP4 (AAC). But the most important advantage is andavced configuration for MP3. It uses LAME and FAAC librarys.
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: Shade[ST] on 2005-11-30 09:29:10
your site looks dead and you sound very very vague, general and nondescript.

Please elaborate about what "advanced configuration for mp3" is...
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: CRYON on 2005-11-30 09:35:45
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your site looks dead and you sound very very vague, general and nondescript.

Please elaborate about what "advanced configuration for mp3" is...
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sorry for link, I updated it


in general, the advanced options are this, that common user dont use, like in lame mostly are used simple presets, yes the presets are for user that don't wanna mess with difficult options and this is good, but EncoderPro is designed for adv and common users

i don't now software (free) that offers more configuration options in easy way like EncoderPro

Try It!
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: Lyx on 2005-11-30 09:56:58
In other words, it will allow me to mess up the optimally tuned presets and in exchange give me an "OMG my self-tuned music sounds so cool"-placebo effect.

- Lyx
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: CRYON on 2005-11-30 10:01:02
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In other words, it will allow me to mess up the optimally tuned presets and in exchange give me an "OMG my self-tuned music sounds so cool"-placebo effect.

- Lyx
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yeah, you dont need mess up with all settings ;-)

only this you wnat or need, and not all software allows you to tweak this settings

but who cares, i give a software with power settings for user that are intrested with this, for others there are prestes
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: Lyx on 2005-11-30 10:04:46
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only this you wnat or need, and not all software allows you to tweak this settings
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Right, and those which dont have a good reason for this: there is no need to, unless you are a codec-developer/tester. But codec-devs/testers can handle commandline encoders. So the main "advantage" of your app is that it allows uneducated users to mess with settings which they do not understand.

- Lyx
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: CRYON on 2005-11-30 10:09:50
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only this you wnat or need, and not all software allows you to tweak this settings
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Right, and those which dont have a good reason for this: there is no need to, unless you are a codec-developer/tester. But codec-devs/testers can handle commandline encoders. So the main "advantage" of your app is that it allows uneducated users to mess with settings which they do not understand.

- Lyx
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If you think so, but this is not true. This software was developed for users that are intrested in advanced tunning and i don't see any point to continue discusion in this way. Command line tools also offers lots of options and u don't use this, but there are for some purpose. The purpose of options is to let users them self to chose optimal settings. Personaly i dont like prestes in lame for eg. and i use different settings for my encodings. But if you dont need this, then don't use and stick with other software, it's free wolrd of free choises.
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: _Raziel-BG on 2005-11-30 11:19:33
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The purpose of options is to let users them self to chose optimal settings.
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Flaw detected. Optimal settings are already available via the presets. Unless I misunderstand the meaning of the word 'optimal'.
The app is nice but there are many options that the uneducated users (myself included) don't understand. That way we can screw things up. There isn't a manual or documentation which to explain the settings.
So unexpereienced users can mess things up instead of getting better results.
Experienced users are the ones claiming the presets are the optimal choice and I seriously doubt they would want bad sounding music SO they would use presets themselves. That leaves all those advanced options to be used for the purpose of an experiment/test or something, and not for main encoding
LAME developers and testers have spent a lot of time to make the presets as optimal as possible.
I myself thought I could do a better job at defining my encoding settings. After a while I realized I was getting bigger sized files without hearing ANY difference at all. (That compared my settings vs presets). So I switched to presets.
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: CRYON on 2005-11-30 11:33:27
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The purpose of options is to let users them self to chose optimal settings.
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Flaw detected. Optimal settings are already available via the presets. Unless I misunderstand the meaning of the word 'optimal'.
The app is nice but there are many options that the uneducated users (myself included) don't understand. That way we can screw things up. There isn't a manual or documentation which to explain the settings.
So unexpereienced users can mess things up instead of getting better results.
Experienced users are the ones claiming the presets are the optimal choice and I seriously doubt they would want bad sounding music SO they would use presets themselves. That leaves all those advanced options to be used for the purpose of an experiment/test or something, and not for main encoding
LAME developers and testers have spent a lot of time to make the presets as optimal as possible.
I myself thought I could do a better job at defining my encoding settings. After a while I realized I was getting bigger sized files without hearing ANY difference at all. (That compared my settings vs presets). So I switched to presets.
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I agree and I don't say that lame presets are bad, like i write before. The point was to make app that wrap most off lame options in one place and most of default settings are more like lame settings, with small differences. It is home made software, for most of time tested and used by couple of people and i put it on the net having in mind that it will be useful for someone.
I put this app here, to get opinions of users, that have knowlege to test this app, and i take all criticism with full understanding.
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: Big_Berny on 2005-11-30 12:34:33
Looks like a great tool!  Also if presets give very good results!

I really don't understand why there are users who bash all tools which have more options than the presets! I know that they give best quality in most cases because they are already tuned, but hey, you don't have to use this tool if you don't like it. You should support freeware programmers (also with constructiv criticism if you want) and not bash it. Just my 2 Cents. (Between there are no general "optimal settings"! Sometimes other athaa-settings give better results for example, ask guru...)

Big_Berny
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: Jan S. on 2005-11-30 12:49:52
I downloaded this and from the look this is just a frontend. There is nothing more here than what has always been available.
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: CRYON on 2005-11-30 12:53:57
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I downloaded this and from the look this is just a frontend. There is nothing more here than what has always been available.
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sorry, but this is in any mean frontend, frontend to what???
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: Digga on 2005-11-30 13:46:59
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I downloaded this and from the look this is just a frontend. There is nothing more here than what has always been available.
sorry, but this is in any mean frontend, frontend to what???
LAME and FAAC are the actual encoders (backend) that you could use either via CLI or GUI (frontend). Jan S. is referring to EncoderPro as being a frontend for FAAC and LAME.
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: Destroid on 2005-11-30 13:49:08
Well, like a front-end to LAME (called EncoderLib.dll).

As for SimpleEnc.dll, I have no idea what MP3 encoder that is or what it's based on...

edit: aha! " - SimpleEnc some sources from ISO developing. Author is unknown, quality is not so high but it can be usefull."
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: CRYON on 2005-11-30 13:54:41
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I downloaded this and from the look this is just a frontend. There is nothing more here than what has always been available.
sorry, but this is in any mean frontend, frontend to what???
LAME and FAAC are the actual encoders (backend) that you could use either via CLI or GUI (frontend). Jan S. is referring to EncoderPro as being a frontend for FAAC and LAME.
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maybe yes, meybe not, for me frontend (like RazorLame etc...) is software that is only interacting with encoder (lame, faac) in command line
that is my definitions, maybe i'm worng, correct me if it's true.

EncoderPro uses .dll's with only librarys compiled inside line libmp3lame, libfaac, etc...

but if this is important, for naming of this stuff right, then please put some more light to tihis subject
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: CRYON on 2005-12-01 12:58:06
Well, the verion 3.9 of EncoderPro is little outdated, but this is the newest version that I released on the web.

I want put here newest version, that I have produced (First time release).

This is version 5.0 FINAL (in about box is build date).

Note, that I changed name of program from EncoderPro to EncoderPro Workstation.

Download EncoderPro Workstation 5.0 FINAL:

DOWNLOAD (http://www.republika.pl/scron/forum/EncProWork50FINAL.rar)

and here is screenshot (v5.0 FINAL):

(http://www.republika.pl/scron/forum/epw50f.jpg)

Try It and comment.

EDIT: Removed BatchRunner, changed links to my site!
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: kode54 on 2005-12-01 13:11:06
Why are you using the forum to host this?
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: CRYON on 2005-12-01 13:13:09
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Why are you using the forum to host this?
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This is not the purpose of this posts, I have my own website, but I wont opinions of people that have more knowledge of audio encoding.
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: kode54 on 2005-12-01 13:16:35
If your host forbids hotlinking, then you could at least provide a link to your site.
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: CRYON on 2005-12-01 13:21:23
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If your host forbids hotlinking, then you could at least provide a link to your site.
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I see that, posting free and (propobly good) software in "Uploads" section is forbiden.
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: Jan S. on 2005-12-01 13:27:22
It is not. But this is not a hosting service.
And since you already have your own webspace there is no need to use ours.
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: Brink on 2005-12-01 13:29:44
www.yousendit.com
www.rapidshare.de
www.megaupload.com

You can host it in many places for free.
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: ronnie_t on 2005-12-01 13:32:35
Looks a great tool to replace razorlame, but how can I encode using the presets??
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: CRYON on 2005-12-01 13:33:42
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No, but this is not a hosting service. And since you appear to have functional hosting, there does not seem to be any good reason for you to prefer uploading to the forum over hosting the files yourself.
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Sorry for my behaviour, but there is maybe one good reason for this. Maybe its not so good exuse, but I try to explain, if not I delete this stuff that I uploaded, OK.

I have only in work internet access, no connection in home. FTP access is blocked in company I work, more than that is onem ore thing, the one I have most of prove of my right to post this here. I have stoped from developing this software in March, and I wnated know to get some opinions on this app (Encoder Pro) from web users. This was only purpose, when I was uploding this software in forum. Thats simple as that.

PS. I am planning to get commercial hosting, I know that is not an exuse.
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: CRYON on 2005-12-01 13:36:04
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Looks a great tool to replace razorlame, but how can I encode using the presets??
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Right now only by loading tham from program instalation path, but this are my presets, that I have created, mostly for example. You can save your presets. For MP3 and Mp3, OGG only have one option.


NOTE:
(sorry, I'm not sure witch app for you asked)
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: Shade[ST] on 2005-12-01 14:46:52
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Looks a great tool to replace razorlame, but how can I encode using the presets??
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Presets are at a fixed quality.  Standard is at -V 2;  extreme is at -V 0; Insane is at -b 320;  medium is at -V 5, I believe.  Have fun;

I'd like to pass a message to the author as well :

I think your english is probably worse than what it would be by using translation software on the web (babel.altavista.com) -- this isn't destructive criticism, but maybe you should see if you get more understandable messages using that sort of service than by writing them yourself;  also, I very like the look of your software, but you should include the -preset options, they're the main reason LAME users use LAME.  As a third note, you should also have a box somewhere, which activates "Advanced" options, and allows access to the Psytune, ATH, etc, tabs, and allows you to change the lowpass and highpass.  The only settings that should be available are the bitrate options.

Also, I'm not too sure of the way the dll was optimized vs/ the way to feed it bitrate options.  Maybe someone could confirm on this, but I believe you'd be better off making a frontend for the command-line encoder, even if you choose to hide the lame window (eg, use stdin to give it wavs, it should hide the enc. window;  or ask the foobar developpers how they did it.)

Peace,
Tristan.
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: kritip on 2005-12-01 14:56:01
babel.altavista.com doesn't translate Polish i don't think, and I don't find it to hard to understand personally, maybe for other non-native English speakers it may be a bit harder. He's doing his best, if you don't practice, you don't improve

Kristian
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: Shade[ST] on 2005-12-01 15:07:37
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babel.altavista.com doesn't translate Polish i don't think, and I don't find it to hard to understand personally, maybe for other non-native English speakers it may be a bit harder. He's doing his best, if you don't practice, you don't improve

Kristian
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I am a native english speaker;  don't you find his sentences confused?

[a href="http://www.leksyka.pl/]http://www.leksyka.pl/[/url]

This site works great, and gives you an idea of english sentence structure as you translate.
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: jetpower on 2005-12-01 15:45:55
While on the topic of language perfection ,  this spellchecker (http://www.spellcheck.net/) may come in handy (seems to use American spelling though).
Also MS Word makes a great spellchecker when a text is pasted into a document.
As a non-native, I do that myself very often when writing in English .  It is just too easy to 'eat' a letter here or there.
Now, if someone could write software correcting sentences, and with perfect grammar. And adjusting to appropriate style in an instant...
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: Jan S. on 2005-12-01 15:52:37
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No, but this is not a hosting service. And since you appear to have functional hosting, there does not seem to be any good reason for you to prefer uploading to the forum over hosting the files yourself.
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Sorry for my behaviour, but there is maybe one good reason for this. Maybe its not so good exuse, but I try to explain, if not I delete this stuff that I uploaded, OK.

I have only in work internet access, no connection in home. FTP access is blocked in company I work, more than that is onem ore thing, the one I have most of prove of my right to post this here. I have stoped from developing this software in March, and I wnated know to get some opinions on this app (Encoder Pro) from web users. This was only purpose, when I was uploding this software in forum. Thats simple as that.

PS. I am planning to get commercial hosting, I know that is not an exuse.
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But since it is already uploaded to your own webspace wouldn't your limited internet access make it easier for you to just give a link to the page where it is available instead of uploaded it here all the time?
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: Shade[ST] on 2005-12-01 16:13:30
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While on the topic of language perfection ,  this spellchecker (http://www.spellcheck.net/) may come in handy (seems to use American spelling though).
Also MS Word makes a great spellchecker when a text is pasted into a document.
As a non-native, I do that myself very often when writing in English .  It is just too easy to 'eat' a letter here or there.
Now, if someone could write software correcting sentences, and with perfect grammar. And adjusting to appropriate style in an instant...
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It exists, and for french language users, it's called Antidoteā„¢
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Title: EncoderPro
Post by: CRYON on 2005-12-02 06:42:49
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No, but this is not a hosting service. And since you appear to have functional hosting, there does not seem to be any good reason for you to prefer uploading to the forum over hosting the files yourself.
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Sorry for my behaviour, but there is maybe one good reason for this. Maybe its not so good exuse, but I try to explain, if not I delete this stuff that I uploaded, OK.

I have only in work internet access, no connection in home. FTP access is blocked in company I work, more than that is onem ore thing, the one I have most of prove of my right to post this here. I have stoped from developing this software in March, and I wnated know to get some opinions on this app (Encoder Pro) from web users. This was only purpose, when I was uploding this software in forum. Thats simple as that.

PS. I am planning to get commercial hosting, I know that is not an exuse.
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=346856"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

But since it is already uploaded to your own webspace wouldn't your limited internet access make it easier for you to just give a link to the page where it is available instead of uploaded it here all the time?
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this is only temporary solution, I will create project in sf.net
Title: EncoderPro
Post by: Shade[ST] on 2005-12-02 06:56:31
*"You are assuming my language is the problem, while with your level of polyglotism you yourselves would translate slower than I write english."

That's what I got out of it.  In any case, if that's similar to what you meant, sorry, but generally people expect uniform language as a main standard of communication;*  to spread a message well, you'd need to work on your expression a bit more, perhaps.  Take more time to think about how to write your stuff, look it up, maybe.

Don't forget it's a professional project.

Oh, and one last thing,

I'm not being mean.

Edit : post was deleted. the mod / admin who did so can also take out the part of my reply that concerns it.  I'll star it.