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BBC radio new stream format not playing

BBC radio URLs in .pls format are no longer available.
These are the new addresses
Code: [Select]
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_one.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_two.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_four_extra.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live_sports_extra.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_6music.m3u8

but if you attempt to open them in fb2K there is an error:-
Unable to open item for playback (Unsupported file format):
"http://as-hls-uk-live.edgesuite.net/pool_7/live/bbc_radio_three/bbc_radio_three.isml/bbc_radio_three-audio=320000.m3u8?dvr_window_length=24"


Any help on this would be appreciated.

They play OK in VLC so here is the codec information:-
Type: Audio
Original ID: 34
Codec: MPEG AAC Audio (mp4a)
Channels: Stereo
Sample rate: 48000 Hz

So I guess the problem is not actually the codec.



BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #1
Again this BBC? What are they doing? Mine NEVER stopped working since years ago, I got the normal pls from Radio?Sure! stations or TapinRadio.

BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #2
They play OK in VLC so here is the codec information:-
Type: Audio
Original ID: 34
Codec: MPEG AAC Audio (mp4a)
Channels: Stereo
Sample rate: 48000 Hz

So I guess the problem is not actually the codec.


They also play OK in Squeezeboxes/logitech media server, after some users created some new plugins to deal with the new BBC "Apple HLS m3u8" streams. See:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.p...HLS-m3u8-stream

BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #3
The BBC do like to tinker with their tech. These days, the estimable NerdOfTheHerd Radio Downloader only works if you have an old version and the clunky but useful get_iplayer PVR software is also prone to losing services.

When you consider how many classic TV and Radio broadcasts they managed to erase in the past, due to re-using tape to save money, you'd think they would appreciate people keeping personal collections.

BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #4
Am I mistaken, or are these all now at 320kbps?

Apart from Radio 4 extra (which sounds transcoded, but it could just be the content that's on right now) they sound good. Though I'm not claiming to be able to tell the difference between 128kbps AAC and 320kbps AAC.

Cheers,
David.

BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #5
@anyone who has tested these streams with vlc, could post how much cpu usage you see - and your cpu. the reason i ask is because i tried it on a thin client pc which has a crappy VIA cpu and it takes all of it making windows unusable for anything else even though the audio does play fine. i'm just wondering if vlc takes much cpu on "normal" pcs?

BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #6
It's varying. 10 seconds virtually nothing, then 10 seconds 27% of an intel i5 2.53GHz. Occasionally it hits nearly 50%! It's 100% of an old Pentium 4 2GHz.

That's not right, is it?

Cheers,
David.

BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #7
That's not right, is it?


i hope not. let's just hope the (current) vlc decoding implementation is poor and something better can be done.

BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #8
I'm sure it can. There's nothing clever or difficult about these streams.

BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #9
A Workaround solution
I am experimenting with Minimserver (upnp/DLNA) on SLAX Linux and this has a very useful extra Minimstreamer which will output a stream from any internet (radio) source with optional transcoding. It is driven by an m3u playlist containing the urls that you want to restream via DLNA.
Foobar does not require any transcoding in order to play these basically AAC streams. I don't know how to preload the playlist from the UPNP server on startup but other than that it works well.
Although FB2K needs no transcoding I have other players that don't work with AAC so I am transcoding to wav format which works surprisingly well without any great cpu load on the server.

BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #10
Is there any progress on adding HLS capability to Foobar2K ? Anything in the development pipeline?

BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #11
Is there any progress on adding HLS capability to Foobar2K ? Anything in the development pipeline?

As there seems little hope of FB2K supporting this format I have moved my internet radio interface to MPC-HC 9 (latest media player classic). This is ideal for internet radio and can be configured to provide a very simple interface

with the following playlist format:-
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MPCPLAYLIST
1,type,0
1,label,Jazz24
1,filename,http://icy1.abacast.com:80/kplu-jazz24aac-64
2,type,0
2,label,Radio Swiss Jazz
2,filename,http://stream.srg-ssr.ch:80/m/rsj/aacp_96
3,type,0
3,label,Radio Swiss Classic
3,filename,http://stream.srg-ssr.ch:80/m/rsc_de/aacp_96
4,type,0
4,label,Public Domain Classical Swiss
4,filename,http://stream2137.init7.net:80
5,type,0
5,label,laut.fm open classics
5,filename,http://vtuner.stream.laut.fm/openclassics
6,type,0
6,label,Radio Swiss Classique
6,filename,http://stream.srg-ssr.ch/m/rsc_fr/mp3_128
7,type,0
7,filename,http://81.20.49.10:80/ClassicFMMP3
8,type,0
8,label,Swiss Modern jazz
8,filename,http://stream2140.init7.net:80/
9,type,0
9,filename,http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_one.m3u8
10,type,0
10,filename,http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_two.m3u8
11,type,0
11,filename,http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8
12,type,0
12,filename,http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8
13,type,0
13,filename,http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_four_extra.m3u8
14,type,0
14,filename,http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live.m3u8
15,type,0
15,filename,http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_five_live_sports_extra.m3u8
16,type,0
16,filename,http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_6music.m3u8


Playlist files should have the extension .mpcpl

I will attempt to add an image to show how neat the gui can be.


BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #13
Nice to see that has no cpu usage issues like VLC.

BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #14
Very cool. Is there really no chance of FB2K getting this support?

Perhaps a plug-in?  I'm sure there would be a demand (I miss the BBC streams). 

BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #15
Another alternative to VLC or MPC-HCwould be installing the TuneIn Radio app if you have a modern OS that can do it. Just installed it on my Win 10 system yesterday and is working a treat.

Re: BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #16
Any news about the HLS support in the foobar2000?




 

Re: BBC radio new stream format not playing

Reply #20
My bad, I didn't realize you could add http:// masks to it now. Someone already answered this in another topic.