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Topic: catalog no., isrc, cd-text & other advanced ripping under linux (Read 270 times) previous topic - next topic
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catalog no., isrc, cd-text & other advanced ripping under linux

The freeware Windows application Exact Audio Copy appears to be the most comprehensive software presently available for accurate and complete transfer of audio-CD data to computer files.

The Linux world, it seems, carries nothing quite so sophisticated. The most recent versions of cdparanoia may be reliable for capture of raw audio data, but the application itself is fairly bare, and many of the applications that wrap its core functionality offer only crude interfaces, limited feature sets, or have fallen out of active maintenance. The command-line utility abcde appears to be straightforward, reliable, and featureful, combining the audio extraction capabilities of cdparanoia with generation of cue sheets and queries for metadata retrieval.

One feature abcde appears to lack is capturing certain metadata encoded on the disc, including catalog numbers, ISRCs and CD-Text information. This data is particularly valuable for integration with advanced metadata tools such as MusicBrainz. The utility also saves no information about the environment and progression of the extraction process, or the estimated accuracy of the results. This information is helpful for evaluating the quality of archived assets.

Some utilities claim support for some of these features, but I have found none operating reliably and accurately.

At the moment, are we simply facing a tradeoff between switching to Windows or forgoing these advanced features, or are further options available for use under Linux?


 

Re: catalog no., isrc, cd-text & other advanced ripping under linux

Reply #1
Tried https://github.com/whipper-team/whipper ? It is supposed to support both ISRC and CD-Text.

YMMV trying CUERipper on Linux.
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Re: catalog no., isrc, cd-text & other advanced ripping under linux

Reply #2
Whipper looks interesting. I didn't find it listed in any sources reviewing the options for ripping under Linux. I did find Midori, but it seems not to function properly any longer.

Whipper has not reached a release stage. I wonder whether results may be considered reliable.

I think that CUERipper would not work under Mono, since it seems to be just a front end to EAC, which relies on direct access to hardware.

 

Re: catalog no., isrc, cd-text & other advanced ripping under linux

Reply #3
CUERipper is not at all a front-end to EAC, it is developed independently, with source code available. Also it can rip a CD from command-line. Had it been around when I ripped my collection, I might very well have used it for the whole lot. Try it.

Whipper is a fork of morituri. The actual audio extraction is done by good'old cdparanoia, and CD-Text etc is extracted by cdrdao.  And for CDs that verify AccurateRip you don't need the paranoia features. More at https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Whipper
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Re: catalog no., isrc, cd-text & other advanced ripping under linux

Reply #4
Yes, it was my mistake about the relation between CUERipper and Exact Audio Copy. CUERipper supports some integration with EAC, but is not dependent, the way I said. I think running CUERipper under Mono or even WINE is not possible due to the need for the ripping software to have direct access to the drive hardware. CUETools itself, which only performs file operations, seems to function under Mono, and though the documentation indicates lack of support for certain encoding or decoding in this context, I have been successful with FLAC. When I try to run CUERipper using the same process, an error message returns.

Whipper seems to have promise, but it seems also that it is still impossible to make a rip under Linux nearly as reliably as through EAC. Currently, it seems the project development team for Whipper has some uncertainty about the best approaches for integration with AccurRIp and CTDB, as well as for support for whole-disc images, which is currently not available The dependence on CD Paranoia is also limiting for non-expert users, as managing read offsets and other advanced ripping details is not straightforward.

At least now I know about CUERipper as an alternative, even if not released from dependence on Windows. What are the various advantages of CueRipper versus EAC?



Re: catalog no., isrc, cd-text & other advanced ripping under linux

Reply #5
When I try to run CUERipper using the same process, an error message returns.

Ask in the CUETools forum then. I vaguely recall that there is not much chance to get it working on USB drives.


What are the various advantages of CueRipper versus EAC?

Can be operated though command-line, that is a feature you asked for.
Generally, you can have a look at https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Comparison_of_CD_rippers
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