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Your Weapon of Choice to Burn CD\DVD

Reply #50 –
Quote from: TREX6662k6 on
I have been a fan of Nero for a long time. Since 7 however, I couldn't stand the bloat.

Same here. I still have my 5.5 CD.

Quote from: TREX6662k6 on
And the recently released Nero 8 is almost 1GB in size (W-T-F).

So sad. It is incredible. NERO should research to why people stoped using the once-lean easy cd creator. Same fate is looming.

Quote from: TREX6662k6 on
I would like to switch to something that isn't as bloated and is minimal.

ImgBurn also. With build mode. Note that build mode defaults to ISO creation, but there is a button you press to directly write to a CD/DVD.

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Reply #52 –
Quote from: kwanbis on
And that would be because ?
  • create dvd's with menus directly from DV footage
  • burn dvd-video, svcd, vcd and whatever
  • choice in disc formats (iso,udf)
  • create slideshows in dvd or vcd format to burn and send to friends
  • copy non-protected dvd's
  • create audio as well as data or video discs

Other tools can do this too but Nero provides one well-integrated suite of apps to do it with a more or less consistent UI.

Not to say that I don't find it too bloated but it certainly has things going for it...

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Reply #53 –
EAC for Audio.

ImgBurn for the rest.

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Reply #54 –
Quote from: =trott= on
  • burn dvd-video, svcd, vcd and whatever
  • choice in disc formats (iso,udf)
  • copy non-protected dvd's
  • create audio as well as data or video discs

Nothing that imgburn, and i assume, most burning apps can not do.

Quote from: =trott= on
  • create dvd's with menus directly from DV footage
  • create slideshows in dvd or vcd format to burn and send to friends

That it is just part of the bloat, and it is not related to cd/dvd burning but authoring.

Quote from: =trott= on
Other tools can do this too but Nero provides one well-integrated suite of apps to do it with a more or less consistent UI.

So you have a 700 MB / 1 GB app only for that two options?

I rather have best of breed apps for each thing, and as slim as they can get.

Your Weapon of Choice to Burn CD\DVD

Reply #56 –
I'd like to use small, best of breed apps too.  But I'm using Nero 6.6 under XP.  Here's why:  1) burns multisession data discs.  2) burns audio CDRs from FLACs on the fly, without converting to .wavs first.

I've only installed Package 1 so the total install is about 40 MB.  Still pretty big IMHO.

Are there any alternatives which can do 1) and 2)?  1) is a must for me and 2) very nice.

I'm considering trying to get Nero 7 cheap now that 8 is on the way.  Can't you uninstall parts of it?  The DL is 190 MB!

Your Weapon of Choice to Burn CD\DVD

Reply #57 –
Quote from: gottogo99 on
I'd like to use small, best of breed apps too.  But I'm using Nero 6.6 under XP.  Here's why:  1) burns multisession data discs.  2) burns audio CDRs from FLACs on the fly, without converting to .wavs first.

I've only installed Package 1 so the total install is about 40 MB.  Still pretty big IMHO.

Are there any alternatives which can do 1) and 2)?  1) is a must for me and 2) very nice.

I'm considering trying to get Nero 7 cheap now that 8 is on the way.  Can't you uninstall parts of it?  The DL is 190 MB!

for #2 try burrrn http://www.burrrn.net/download/burrrn_package.exe

Your Weapon of Choice to Burn CD\DVD

Reply #58 –
Quote from: gottogo99 on
1) burns multisession data discs.

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Are there any alternatives which can do 1) and 2)?  1) is a must for me and 2) very nice.

for #1 try http://www.cdburnerxp.se

Your Weapon of Choice to Burn CD\DVD

Reply #59 –
Former Windows user now on Mac OS X:

Burn for Mac is a great free burner that accesses OS X's native CD/DVD burning capacity with a simple UI - handles ISO, DMG, music files of (nearly) all types, easy and fast.

For more advanced projects I am sticking with Roxio Toast 8. It uses its own routines (instead of the built-in resources) and frankly works terrifically for data, audio and video formats.

For basic data burns, the built-in "burn folder" feature of OS X is hard to fault.

Any of these tools can be integrated into Finder with simple Automator scripts, again built-in to OS X.

Back when I used Windows I really liked Nero 5, but gather it has gotten a bit overweight since then.

Your Weapon of Choice to Burn CD\DVD

Reply #60 –
Quote from: ArtMustHurt on
Quote from: gottogo99 on

I'd like to use small, best of breed apps too.  But I'm using Nero 6.6 under XP.  Here's why:  1) burns multisession data discs.  2) burns audio CDRs from FLACs on the fly, without converting to .wavs first.

I've only installed Package 1 so the total install is about 40 MB.  Still pretty big IMHO.

Are there any alternatives which can do 1) and 2)?  1) is a must for me and 2) very nice.

I'm considering trying to get Nero 7 cheap now that 8 is on the way.  Can't you uninstall parts of it?  The DL is 190 MB!

for #2 try burrrn http://www.burrrn.net/download/burrrn_package.exe

Burrrn converts to .wavs first.  I prefer Nero which is faster.

And I forgot to mention, foobar2000 burns if you have Nero installed.  Another reason to have it...

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Reply #61 –
Quote from: TREX6662k6 on
I have been a fan of Nero for a long time. Since 7 however, I couldn't stand the bloat and started using Nero Micro. And the recently released Nero 8 is almost 1GB in size (W-T-F). I would like to switch to something that isn't as bloated and is minimal.
InfraRecorder looks like what i'm looking for. Opensource too!

I just would like to know, what program people use to burn their discs.

For burning iso file to cd and dvd, I use magiciso. It is a quite good iso burner. It works great.
http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-burnwin.htm

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Reply #62 –
CDBurnerXP

BTW, v4.0 is out.
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Reply #63 –
Quote from: capma on
CDBurnerXP

BTW, v4.0 is out.


I'm looking forward to test it. The feature set is very promissing. And it's really far away from being bloated.

kwanbis
Burrrn is perfect for Audio CDs, ImgBurn is ideal for image burning, Data/Video CD/DVD burning is not very user friendly. Mainly I'm lacking the ability to visually see how the CD/DVD will look like. Also I'm always unsure if ImgBurn will create DVD-Video or data DVD. I had some issues with ImgBurn regarding compatibility with standalone DVD players. To create data CD/DVD I really like Total Commander burning plugin.

There are many burners, but none of them except of Nero can do it all. I also prefer having a top-quality specialized application. But Nero Lite is almost perfect for creating all CD/DVD types. I hope CDBurnerXP might be a good replacement.

Your Weapon of Choice to Burn CD\DVD

Reply #66 –
The problem with .NET is obviously that you'll need to install several big run-time packages just to be able to run those managed apps. However, I'm of course not saying that it's useless, though - since i can certantly see the benefit it gives if seen from a programmers perspective...

I personally don't have any .NET run-times installed(except nuhi's lite framework for nLite), as all the apps i use are unmanaged(except nLite), and so installing a big package just to use one little app is not really something that i would like to do, especially seeing as there nearly always is a just as good unmanaged solution available out there...

Just my 2 cents...

Your Weapon of Choice to Burn CD\DVD

Reply #67 –
Quote from: Martin H on
The problem with .NET is obviously that you'll need to install several big run-time packages just to be able to run those managed apps. However, I'm of course not saying that it's useless, though - since i can certantly see the benefit it gives if seen from a programmers perspective...

I personally don't have any .NET run-times installed(except nuhi's lite framework for nLite), as all the apps i use are unmanaged(except nLite), and so installing a big package just to use one little app is not really something that i would like to do, especially seeing as there nearly always is a just as good unmanaged solution available out there...

Just my 2 cents...


I suppose, but once Vista becomes the majority desktop, everyone will have it, regardless. 

I have it if for no other reason than Paint.NET is really freaking great, so it's a non-issue for me.

Your Weapon of Choice to Burn CD\DVD

Reply #68 –
I disagree with both - the "all-in-one apps"-camp as well as the "highly specialized apps"-camp.

Highly related and similiar steps of a task, should be part of the same application. For the following reason: when you execute a task, then its just plain annoying having to switch between apps and having to import/export and save/load stuff between them. This sucks. Besides: each app usually has its own kind of workflow.... if you need to work with many apps simultaneusly, you constantly need to switch between modes-of-thinking. So, to nail it down: A process/task which you execute, should be done intuitive, direct, simple and consistent. The linux way of thinking totally blows in that regard.

On the other hand, packing all kinds of unrelated features in a single app is counterproductive too, because when executing a single task, you will deal with all kinds of unrelated complexity/memory/feature/option/interface BLOAT. Clearly distinct tasks should also be distributed over distinct apps. When you execute a task, you should only see and need exactly those features and options, which you need for your task. Of course thats an inflated ideal which practically is rarely achievable - but you get the idea: "Gimme exactly what i need and dont bother me with the rest!". All-in-one apps like nero totally suck at this.

As a practical example: creating a video CD is something very different to creating an audio or data CD. The same goes for creating labels and stuff. So, i would say that in this case, three different apps would make sense:

1) Create, burn and save Data/Audio media. Edit and burn images.
2) Create and edit video media images. Thinking about it - maybe the creation of video media projects, should be part of the VIDEO EDITOR.
3) Cover and label design editor.

Those three shouldn't be difficult to create with a simple intuitive UI, and without al the ***** bloat. And if you absolutely need an all-in-one package, then damnit, just bundle all three apps and connect them with a small launch-wizard.

- Lyx
I am arrogant and I can afford it because I deliver.

Your Weapon of Choice to Burn CD\DVD

Reply #69 –
My idea of "highly specialised apps" is that since they are separate from the main burning application, I can remove it when I dont want to use it.

Your Weapon of Choice to Burn CD\DVD

Reply #70 –
Quote from: TREX6662k6 on
My idea of "highly specialised apps" is that since they are separate from the main burning application, I can remove it when I dont want to use it.

For this to really work optimally, multiple revolutions in the software-industry would need to happen: resulting in "modular applications". Many things would need to be standardized to allow a high level of interoperability, so that you can literarily connect apps to each other like modules. I would even go as far as saying that you need a completely new OS for that (neither windows nor unix is made for this synergy of autonomy and interoperability). This is an utopia short- and mid-term and therefore not practically achievable from a users POV. Though, it may be an overall goal worth striving for.

- Lyx
I am arrogant and I can afford it because I deliver.

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Reply #71 –
Quote from: Heliologue on
What's your problem with .NET?

can you say BLOAT?

Quote from: Heliologue on
I suppose, but once Vista becomes the majority desktop, everyone will have it, regardless.

hopefully people would stay with XP, or move to OSX/Linux .... you know, people is not moving in
droves to Vista ...

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Reply #72 –
Data CD- Nero 7
Audio CD- Burrrn (Although I wish it would get updated and there is no TAK support)

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Reply #73 –
Just wanted to pop in and comment on ImgBurn, which I decided to try at the suggestion of many here, having used OEM versions of Nero for many years now. Excellent, excellent program - lean and clean, just the way I like it. Would be even better if it came without an installer 

I haven't explored everything it offers, but it looks to me like a pretty unbeatable package for writing data CDs\DVDs.

Your Weapon of Choice to Burn CD\DVD

Reply #74 –
I want to burn data CDs with MP3s on them for my car. My collection is mostly FLAC and a little high bitrate MP3.

So I need a burner that will
1) Allow creation of a compilation giving feedback on size based on selected final bitrate (i.e. allow me to fill the 700MB, no more no less)
2) Decode both FLAC and MP3 on the fly while burning (preferable)
3) Encode to say 160K ABR MP3 (again on the fly if possible)
4) And burn.

Anything that will do that?