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Title: New Speakers
Post by: Sonikko on 2012-10-05 19:53:06
Hi everyone, I've been following the forum for a while, and recently I decided to change my speakers. I listen to different music styles, from hard rock to dance, so I'd like a pair of speakers that can do great basses and highs. My budget is ~300€. Could you help me out ? My current speakers are "Trust Soundforce 1200" that were a present 6-7 years ago, so I don't have any idea how much these costed. I'm not very satisfied with those, even though they are not very very bad...
PS: Sorry for my bad english.
Title: New Speakers
Post by: itisljar on 2012-10-05 20:16:20
You need computer speakers for 300 euros?
Maybe time to invest into little active studio monitors, like KRK, or Alesis, or Behringer...?
Title: New Speakers
Post by: Sonikko on 2012-10-05 20:40:51
You need computer speakers for 300 euros?
Maybe time to invest into little active studio monitors, like KRK, or Alesis, or Behringer...?

I'm sorry, since I'm new to this kind of things, could you explain more about those?
EDIT: What I want to know is, can I connect these to my computer?
Title: New Speakers
Post by: dgauze on 2012-10-06 02:19:15
I'm sorry, since I'm new to this kind of things, could you explain more about those?
EDIT: What I want to know is, can I connect these to my computer?


Yes. You just need an adapter, or a cable with a 3.5mm stereo plug on one end, and two 1/4 inch mono plugs on the other. Like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-CMP159-Feet-Spe...6/ref=pd_cp_e_0 (http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-CMP159-Feet-Speaker-Cable/dp/B005HGM1D6/ref=pd_cp_e_0)
Title: New Speakers
Post by: Sonikko on 2012-10-06 07:44:55
Yes. You just need an adapter, or a cable with a 3.5mm stereo plug on one end, and two 1/4 inch mono plugs on the other. Like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-CMP159-Feet-Spe...6/ref=pd_cp_e_0 (http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-CMP159-Feet-Speaker-Cable/dp/B005HGM1D6/ref=pd_cp_e_0)

Great, thank you. So these should do http://www.dv247.com/studio-equipment/ales...tors-pair--9490 (http://www.dv247.com/studio-equipment/alesis-monitor-one-mk11-active-studio-reference-monitors-pair--9490) ?
Title: New Speakers
Post by: smok3 on 2012-10-06 10:14:34
Yes. You just need an adapter, or a cable with a 3.5mm stereo plug on one end, and two 1/4 inch mono plugs on the other. Like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-CMP159-Feet-Spe...6/ref=pd_cp_e_0 (http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-CMP159-Feet-Speaker-Cable/dp/B005HGM1D6/ref=pd_cp_e_0)

Great, thank you. So these should do http://www.dv247.com/studio-equipment/ales...tors-pair--9490 (http://www.dv247.com/studio-equipment/alesis-monitor-one-mk11-active-studio-reference-monitors-pair--9490) ?

This don't seem to have unbalanced jack inputs, but plenty of active monitors do have them, so i'd find one of them.
example http://www.krksys.com/krk-studio-monitor-s...t/rokit-5.html# (http://www.krksys.com/krk-studio-monitor-speakers/rokit/rokit-5.html#) (unbalanced RCA)

(I have this patched in my video editing station like so: aja > HDSDI to video monitor (abusing this to get analog audio) > analog to KRK unbalanced <<< far from perfect, but works, still waiting to introduce a simple mixing console just for listening purposes)

example 2 http://www.genelec.com/products/2-way-monitors/6010a/ (http://www.genelec.com/products/2-way-monitors/6010a/)
Title: New Speakers
Post by: Big_Berny on 2012-10-06 10:45:43
Teufel Motiv 2 are great 2.1-speakers for pcs: http://www.teufelaudio.com/pc/motiv-2-p167.html (http://www.teufelaudio.com/pc/motiv-2-p167.html)

Their sound is really great and they are one of the best (for that money) in tests here in europe.
Title: New Speakers
Post by: Brand on 2012-10-06 11:16:56
Yes. You just need an adapter, or a cable with a 3.5mm stereo plug on one end, and two 1/4 inch mono plugs on the other. Like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-CMP159-Feet-Spe...6/ref=pd_cp_e_0 (http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-CMP159-Feet-Speaker-Cable/dp/B005HGM1D6/ref=pd_cp_e_0)

Great, thank you. So these should do http://www.dv247.com/studio-equipment/ales...tors-pair--9490 (http://www.dv247.com/studio-equipment/alesis-monitor-one-mk11-active-studio-reference-monitors-pair--9490) ?

This don't seem to have unbalanced jack inputs

Like most (all?) equipment with balanced TRS inputs, it accepts unbalanced TS as well.
Title: New Speakers
Post by: smok3 on 2012-10-06 11:33:18
Like most (all?) equipment with balanced TRS inputs, it accepts unbalanced TS as well.

is that a fact? or should i read this http://community.klipsch.com/forums/storag...al_to_unbal.pdf (http://community.klipsch.com/forums/storage/4/612848/bal_to_unbal.pdf) ? or should i just trust you? what exactly?
Title: New Speakers
Post by: Brand on 2012-10-06 12:23:28
You shouldn't trust me, you should trust whatever the manufacturer of the specific equipment says.
I admit that I don't know if "balanced TRS input" and unbalanced TS output always works fine, but I'd say in practice it mostly does. (But this is just from my limited personal experience, I apologize if I made it sound statistically relevant when it's not.)
Title: New Speakers
Post by: Arnold B. Krueger on 2012-10-08 15:00:13
Like most (all?) equipment with balanced TRS inputs, it accepts unbalanced TS as well.

is that a fact? or should i read this http://community.klipsch.com/forums/storag...al_to_unbal.pdf (http://community.klipsch.com/forums/storage/4/612848/bal_to_unbal.pdf) ? or should i just trust you? what exactly?


The Klipsch forum paper seems pretty simplified but generally free of errors.

This is the longer version of the story:

Rane Sound System Interconnection - pretty much the whole story. (http://www.rane.com/note110.html)

Then there are these:

Jensen white paper 1 (http://www.jensen-transformers.com/an/an003.pdf)

Jense white paper 2 (http://www.jensen-transformers.com/an/an004.pdf)

Jensen AES paper (http://www.wolfgangmichaelsound.com/JSOM/A311/reading/WhitlockAES.pdf)

This is actually a very deep area, and discussion can go on and on.

Usually, simple solutions work, but sometimes they don't and then...  ;-)