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General Audio / Re: Vorbis better than opus?
Last post by dalcinrafa -
Hey Igor, do you know of any tests with 256k? I really wanted to know how codecs perform at that bit rate, cause I always used at least 256k. Thanks for your participation so far!
General Audio / Re: Vorbis better than opus?
Last post by IgorC -
Its not entirely wrong. From the perspective of very high bitrate one may prioritize spectrum over efficiency.
Extra psy bells and whistles may be perceived as a liability . In the most tuned coders- mp3 lame, vorbis, mpc ; the higher the quality level the less psychoacoustics are used .

Will be nice to have some actual data on how these codecs work rather than intellectual theories.
You're too polite to  called it "intellectual theories", I call them what they are. BS.

All previously years they were crapposting all over the place (without any proof) how Opus or any other encoder can't compete with Musepack or LossyWAV , "king of transparency" at high bitrates.  "Opus/AAC/(put your codec here) are for low bitrates ...  bells and whistles .. b$$ b$$"
So I decided to perform actually test for this kind of people (you know, theorists ... $**t posters) and break every encoder in all possible ways with hard samples that I only could.

Ironically Opus did transparent in all of samples.  :P hahahahaha And a king of transparency Musepack was on par with AAC/Opus/Vorbis/xHE-AAC
Personal blind listening test – MultiCodec at ~192 VBR kbps

If anybody has a better proof that this, go on and post your tests ...  man I'm begging you to post your tests ...... but please keep your "perespectives and philosofical question of life" to yourself.  Because nobody gives a finger about them.
General Audio / Re: Vorbis better than opus?
Last post by bennetng -
People like you are the reason why we have stuff like MQA and 24-bit/192kHz downloads...
Those MQA believers/shills actually don't care about >20kHz performance.

They worship the so-called time-domain performance, and think audio files don't follow the "rule" of triangular spectral decaying trend are not music.

I don't know I've been listening to so many non-music for so many years, big thanks to those MQA shills teaching me what is music! LMAO.

Of course, after losing the debate and thread-banned mansr, Amir locked the thread again, and continue to publish MQA DACs reviews with nice looking APx555 measurements.

Also a recommended thread for spectrophiles. Three pages to expose a liar.
CD Hardware/Software / Re: EAC, Plextor Premium II & CUE Sheet
Last post by Porcus -
dBpoweramp - from the creator of AccurateRip - operates roughly this way:
* Burst first. Checks AccurateRip, stops if verified
* Secure passes.
* If still issues: starts reading troublesome frames.

Because AccurateRip is tracks-based and omits the beginning and end, yes there can be errors where it isn't even included in the checksum. But if you verify both the AR database and the CUETools database, then we can relax our OCDs :-)
CD Hardware/Software / Re: EAC, Plextor Premium II & CUE Sheet
Last post by Cynic -
"Secure mode won't save you" - nor will Burst mode. But of the two I'd go with Secure T&C.

Secure mode is:
1. more likely to be fooled by consistent errors than Burst T&C and AccurateRip are
2. significantly slower
3. more stressful on the hardware

There is no justification for it to be the default ripping method. EAC's author, Andre Wiethoff, uses burst T&C by default with caching drives.

When there are no AR records to check against, it is often faster to do a Burst T&C in EAC, then another full rip with CUERipper and/or another drive and bit-compare the 2, than to wait for a full Secure mode rip.

EDIT: let alone a Secure T&C, now that's a royal waste of time.
CD Hardware/Software / Re: EAC, Plextor Premium II & CUE Sheet
Last post by JohnnySH -
I'd be even happier if they only took 20mins).

If you get a Plextor Premium II drive. a secure Rip is about 20 mins

just done 4 CDs that were hard work with the pressing / normal imaging ?, but managed a secure Rip successfully in about 20mins :-)
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